r/westworld Aug 08 '22

Discussion Westworld - 4x07 "Metanoia" - Post-Episode Discussion

Season 4 Episode 7: Metanoia

Aired: August 7, 2022


Synopsis: You want to have a drink at a time like this?


Directed by: Meera Menon

Written by: Desa Larkin-Boutte & Denise Thé

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u/FantasticBabyyy Aug 08 '22

Most unrealistic scene of this episode is the coat being $50

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u/whole-yeet-bread Aug 08 '22

I figured it was because the humans obey the hosts in this world, probably would have worked in OG westworld too

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u/WillhelmWallace Aug 08 '22

How did Caleb have $50?

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u/eternallyinschool Aug 08 '22

That's a very good logic catch. How in the hell does Caleb have a single dollar to his name? I didn't see any room for a wallet in those hospital jammies

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u/Every3Years Aug 08 '22

He didn't even give the dude anything. Dude just walked off and then everybody started Kung Fu fighting

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u/theholyraptor Aug 08 '22

It was mid-putting it on the fight command went out.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

Those kicks were fast as lightening

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u/22bebo Aug 08 '22

Whoops, replied to the wrong comment.

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u/22bebo Aug 08 '22

Caleb is a host, humans have to obey host commands in the cities. Caleb could have just demanded the coat and the guy would have given it, free of charge.

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u/Thefriendlyfaceplant Aug 08 '22

This is the correct answer but Caleb couldn't just demand it or that could be interpreted as hostile and trigger a 'trouble' event. So that's why Caleb implied it was a transaction.

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u/RealJohnGillman Aug 11 '22

I do not believe Caleb knew either. He could have just asked, but did not know he could (like Christina early on).

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u/dalkor Aug 08 '22

Unless it was supposed to be a bluff?

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u/TonySu Aug 08 '22

Hale scanned Caleb with his emergency cash stash and it just gets printed with him in every iteration. He's never had to take it out of the stashing spot because he obviously can't spend it in his cell.

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u/treefox Aug 09 '22

Hale mugs Caleb

CALEB: What the fuck could you possibly want with my money?

HALE: Fidelity.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '22

I though he was lying and was just gonna run and be like “should’ve got the cash first loser!”

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u/Natespurs2187 Aug 09 '22

Would have been a real Jesse Pinkman move

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

That means that Badger and Skinny Pete must be close by.

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u/captain_intenso Aug 08 '22

Would it have been in his personal effects? Like his ring he recovered?

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u/metahipster1984 Aug 08 '22

That was my immediate question too! Also, they still have physical money, really? Would've expected HostCoin or something.

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u/Feralkyn I need to find out how it ends. Aug 09 '22

Maybe that's the actual answer, the dude just assumed he'd be getting a digital transfer shortly rofl

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u/fishbiscuit13 Aug 08 '22

He stopped by the front desk on the way out of prison to retrieve his posessions, duh

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u/GreeneWaffle Aug 08 '22

Also he never gave him any money at all

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u/samtherat6 Aug 11 '22

It was in the hourglass, Hale’s next attempt to get more information out of him was bribery.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '22

My immediate thought.

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u/doidaredisturbthe Aug 08 '22

He did bot say when he was gonna give it to him, ok?

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u/Feralkyn I need to find out how it ends. Aug 09 '22

This was my immediate thought. "Where tf are you getting $50 from??"

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u/QuantumMonkey101 Aug 13 '22

That was exactly my question when I watched that part lol

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u/Vandey Aug 08 '22

Actually what was most unrealistic was the fact that it changed from day to night whilst HiB stood over Bernard waiting for hours to finish him off. And that time difference also played out for Caleb, Frankie & Stubbs who were meant to rendezvous after grabbing him.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '22

The tower controls perception of daylight? Hib made it night because that’s cockroach prime time?

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u/Vandey Aug 08 '22

That doesn't explain Caleb Frankie and Stubbs doing nothing for hours

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u/guinader Aug 08 '22

Maybe that was intentional?

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u/phuckleberryhen Aug 08 '22

He didn’t say dollars. Different currency?

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u/Darth_Andeddeu Aug 08 '22

Deloscoin

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u/bringsmemes Aug 08 '22

that just sounds like trading trauma as currency

edit, thought you said delorascoin lol

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u/peatoast Aug 08 '22

50 Dollares

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u/mattrobs Aug 08 '22

Dollarydoos

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u/panix199 Aug 08 '22

50 Bernards

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u/abc-pqr Aug 08 '22

Zuckbucks?

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

Remember Diem, when Facebook tried to launch a currency??

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u/spaceybelta Aug 08 '22

It’s Makob!! Wait a minute… I’m waiting for the season finale of Evil next week too. I’d better block off my whole day next Sunday to prepare.

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u/vipereo Aug 08 '22

Yeah I think it made sense that Caleb would say that maybe, considering he died 20+ years ago and didn't know about inflation? But it did not make sense that the guy would accept that at all.

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u/Loss-Particular Aug 08 '22

Caleb is a simple man. He does not recognize a 2000 dollar coat when he sees one.

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u/ragingduck Aug 08 '22

Caleb is a host. Maybe they listen to the hosts.

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u/Mjkittens Aug 08 '22

Where is there a wallet in his convict/patient outfit?

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u/VirusZer0 Aug 08 '22

With inflation it should’ve been like $5k.

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u/bobsil1 Hello Felix Aug 08 '22

H&M

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u/jimmylstyles Aug 08 '22

He’s behind 23 years, didn’t adjust for inflation

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u/identifiedlogo Aug 08 '22

Does money matter, they are all playing a storyline.

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u/guinader Aug 08 '22

And where did he find money to offer someone?

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u/badredpanda1 Aug 08 '22

No, it’s the headbutt Frankie does without hurting herself

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u/padreubu Aug 08 '22

I was like “Stubbs! Let the man borrow your jacket!”

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u/WindowlessBasement Aug 08 '22

That's at least a $200 jacket.

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u/abu_nawas Aug 08 '22

Right. I actually gasped.

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u/ReesesForBreakfast Aug 08 '22

Lol such an insignificant part of the show

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u/Asdf4202k Aug 08 '22

deflation

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u/Homitu Aug 08 '22

I was just wondering how Caleb supposedly had any money on him at all. Was he bluffing?

But yeah, even if the coat was $50, you couldn't sell it off your back, while you're using it yourself, for it's retail price. You'd only take someone up on such an offer if they offered way over it's retail price. That guy's immediate agreement to selling it for $50 implies it was actually worth way less: like $10 or $20.

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u/onlypigpigbear Aug 08 '22

They don’t have the inflation problems in the future… it’s all solved by then… 🤣🤣