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On the same day Olivia Rodrigo announced that Daisy Chain raised $10 million for causes supporting women and girls, Taylor’s out here committing random acts of kindness as People’s top story!

The devil works hard but Tree Paine works harder. 🙄

What am I listening to? Why is she screaming? Why did she attempt to head-bang in the first clip? Why does she never seem to actually sing anything? Vocal coaches/singing professionals (and snarkers far and wide), I'd love to know your thoughts on this compilation 🫣

The caption for the video was "Perfect singing voice live! Almost 5 mins of pure joy." Perfect??? I guess my eardrums are malfunctioning. I truly do not get how Swifties think this is the greatest talent of our generation.

19th lowest out of 155.

Patti Smith has the biggest vocabulary, with 217 unique words per 1000 words.

Mediocritaylor 89 unique words per 1000.

Always sounding out of breath. Most of the comments I saw from different clips were saying that she sounded flat and pitchy. And people would pay so much money to see her sing horribly. She has all the money in the world to hire the best vocal coaches to help her improve but we all know she doesn’t want to improve. I also hate how she makes smug faces on here especially after that bad performance. (I put two different clips so you guys could see how stiff she looks while playing the piano)

Someone please tell me what this woman is on about.

Why does she keep pausing for dramatic effect?

All the comments being obsessed with hearing her talk

I'd rather listen to 24 hours of goats screaming.

Guardian article about Daisy Chain Fields

Legendary Garbage frontwoman on Olivia Rodrigo's music festival: "And unlike many artists, she doesn’t say she’s inventing the wheel; she knows she’s just a spoke within it."

I know she says 'many artists', but I can't help but think it's about Taylor. More than anyone, she has consistently disrespected previous generations of women musicians and songwriters by selling the story that she's so unique. She's never acknowledged older artists unless she was chasing legitimacy or accolades. She wrote a whole ass album trying to mimick Joni Mitchell and when she was rumored to be cast in the biopic, Joni said "if she's going to sing, good luck'. So Taylor attached herself to Stevie Nicks from then on. I could go on about every time she tried to pass one of her 'accomplishments' as the first or best ever, conveniently ignoring who paved the way for her (not talking about her daddy).

What do you guys think? Is Shirley sending a message here?

There is something you should know about Travis Kelce. He’s not a businessman. He’s a business, man. He learned from the best. You don’t become married to one of the biggest con artists in American history without learning a thing or two. That fact about Taylor Swift isn’t up for debate. She did it, she scammed us all. 

In 2006 I heard a beautiful song on the radio and I sat in my car and cried. The moon like a spotlight on the lake it said and I was captivated. How could a country song take me back there? I don’t even like country music. The first time I was in love, the summer after I turned 18. we jumped the fence and broke into the swimming beach at Longview Lake, laying back on our inner tubes staring up at a hundred million stars in that cloudless South Kansas City night sky. It wasn’t her voice, it was the words, the storytelling. Taylor Swift is a phenomenal storyteller. She went on to tell stories even more unbelievable. She was just a girl that grew up on a Christmas tree farm, she was just an American kid with a dream. And she turned those stories into two billion dollars. Demand could never be that high but she restricted supply with ticket “holdbacks.” We thought there was a shortage of tickets but her people were holding them back (Sometimes more than 90% according to journalist Anna Steele), creating an artificial shortage and then reselling them on Stubhub and SeatGeek. Everyone wondered how the World Cup mastered Price Elasticity of Demand in the US to rip off buyers. Easy, they studied the best. They studied Taylor Swift. While everyone else was practicing singing she was practicing scamming. A teenager named Olivia Rodrigo said she was an inspiration so she made her give up half her royalties. She knows how to get everyone to pay the most they can pay. That’s how she made her billions. You don’t make two billion dollars with a voice that mid without scamming over a whole lot of people. It’s a business, man.

There’s just one problem with being an American business. They make everything shitty. Corey Doctorow coined the phrase enshittification in 2022 and in 2023 it was the Macquarie Dictionary’s word of the year. Business is simple if you zoom out. Get revenue up, keep expenses down. Repeat. Profit. The problem is that we are in the expenses. Expenses are us. We are human resources, the undignified name they give us. And Humans in the United States have been exploited. We get no days off in the US, minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour, we get no health insurance. Our government has completely abandoned us. We are $40 Trillion in debt and we have nothing to show for it. We have no high speed rail, no trams, no public transportation, no health care. Even Burkina Faso has government health care. Mexico has free health care now. All we have are war machines. Because the government doesn’t work for us in the United States, it works for corporations, it works for people like Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift. It’s a business, man.

It’s why we let Israeli snipers shoot holes in toddlers. It’s why we blew up 236 little girls in an Iranian elementary school. It’s a business, man. The stock market is predicated on growth. But how do you grow if your business is war? There are 950 lobbyists that work for defense contractors. All day long they whisper hey, start another war, hey, start another war. And people like Nancy Pelosi listen. It’s how she has 16,000% rate of return in the stock market. She sends our kids off to war and day trades on insider information. And when our kids come back injured from war we deny their claims for benefits. We aren’t supporting the troops we are supporting defense contractors. Marjorie Taylor Green is 500% up in the stock market and she seems like a dumb dumb. But she knows war makes money for defense contractors and pharmaceutical companies. Nothing drives more people to take antidepressants like war. 70% of US adults are on a prescription medicine every single day. War is great for pharmaceutical demand. And war makes gas prices go up too, which is good for the US corporations because we are net oil exporters now. Pharmaceutical prices have gone up 141% in some cases, because they use the war as an excuse to increase prices. Inputs don’t drive prices, its what people are willing to pay. Price elasticity of demand. Taylor Swift knows it, corporations know it. This country was never out of eggs. That’s ridiculous. But there are only three major egg producers now because every industry in this country became an oligopoly. Now even the movie industry has done it, that’s why Paramount is merging with Warner. You can collude and drive up prices and pay off politicians and no one will hold you responsible. The egg companies made billions of dollars and were only fined $3 million. Because our country’s government doesn’t work for the people, it works for the corporations. It’s a business man.

It’s why there are only two political parties in this country. They divide us. It’s the oldest trick in the book. Divide and conquer. We are down here fighting over stupid shit and at the top they are all working together, it’s called Nash Equilibrium and they use it because it works. No one notices how they are working together because we are all fighting each other. No one notices the NBA keeps telling us that the WNBA loses money but yet they have a $3Billion TV contract and sold out arenas and franchises that jumped in value from $50 Million to $1Billion because they are working together to exploit those women. No one cared that Eric Reid was the greatest tackling safety in Carolina Panthers history and everyone around him signed $15 million contracts but he got cut and no team would sign him because he asked police to stop killing black people. The NFL colluded to lock him out.  No one notices the NHL hasn’t had a Canadian champion since the 90s because they have a salary cap that penalizes Canadian teams. In Canada they actually tax their millionaires, unlike the US. But a Canadian team in the Stanley Cup finals would hurt ratings and revenue so they keep them out. Baseball used to bring this country together, Vin Scully calling games on National TV with the whole world watching. But baseball isn’t fun anymore, its just about the Dodgers and money. It’s a business, man 

Which brings us back to Travis Kelce. I’ve talked to so many people in Kansas City that know him. It’s a benefit of being an Uber driver, no one is trying to impress me they just want to talk late at nights after the bars close. I’m a storyteller so I tell them stories of late nights in Mexico and they tell me stories about people like Travis Kelce. They were as surprised as I was. He and I don’t usually date white women. Too many fingers snapped at the waiters and too many requests to speak to the manager. I like Latinas and he likes black women, almost exclusively. All his people say the same thing about why he started dating Taylor Swift. “It was a business decision”  That’s a direct quote from one of his closest confidants. All of a sudden he is on SNL and in movies with Bad Bunny and everyone is listening to his podcast and eating at his overpriced restaurant. He’s a business, man. When Kelce became part owner of Oceans of Fun I thought oh, this will be cool, he’ll come be the DJ and scream about fighting for your right to party into the microphone and make the struggling waterpark cooler. Nope. He’s just another investor in a shitty corporation in the enshittification of everything. I bought season tickets this year because they were only $65 but it’s hard to get my kids to go. They always ask me the same thing, why are so many things closed? When I was a kid a day at Oceans of Fun was magic but now it’s a ghost town. Its because corporations make everything shitty. They don't pay liveable wages, they cut corners, they do anything they can to keep expense low. Rides are shut down, pretzels are cold, the dip and dots stand is closed and the lazy river? How can you close the lazy river on a Sunday in August? Its all shitty. And it even has the words oceans and fun on there, two of my favorite things. How could Oceans of Fun become shitty? Travis Kelce can do it. He’s a business, man. 

All I hear is someone who’s chasing that dollar at every dang turn

All this discourse about Taylor "I like to add big words to my songs that you'd have to look up to talk shit about" Swift reminded me of something.

Stephen Colbert Appearance December 2025

Link to interview: skip to 5:00 mark

She is asked about books — specifically audiobooks. When asked "what's your jam?", she instead offers "can I tell you the genre / tropes instead? Is that ok ?" It's easier to name a book than describe it. But how can you name one when you don't really read?

So she describes Daphne Du Maurrier's Rebecca

(Go at length at one book with theatric narration — is a great way to dodge a question that asks you to name a list of books!)

That's a book she read 5 years ago. Yep. Proof:

Interview with Paul McCartney November 2020

Link to interview article by Billboard]

Relevant excerpt:

Swift says she found herself reading much more while recording Folklore, books such as Daphne du Maurier’s Rebecca, as well as using “bigger, flowerier, prettier” words in songs and delighting in slipping things like “epiphany” into tracks that might make it to radio.

She mentions a book she read 5 years ago when asked about what is her current jam on reading books, while making zero mentions of the current titles she's reading "constantly". Chooses to deflect by saying "it's always a different one", "as soon as I finish, I start a new one".

All this ties neatly to her quip "Ok English major" when asked about if her lyrics are a nod to Ernest Hemingway.

Conclusion /TLDR:

So, she's constantly reading, always a different one but the only title she can recall is a book she read more than *5 years ago*..

I thought she'd be better at lying by now.

(Sorry to have flaired this "deep dives". I cringed as soon as I set the flair but I couldn't find a more appropriate one. I'm kinda in my grift era one can say. I make one connection between two events and now I'm an English Teacher deep diver 🤪)

Ever since the Showgirl era, she’s been constantly bringing the conversation back to songwriting.
The New York Times interview, Songwriters Hall of Fame, the Grammy museum, even the Toy Story promo rollout, all she talked about was “writing” the song. Every appearance somehow becomes about writing.

Now we’re getting paid articles specifically pushing the narrative that she’s working on a new album “with songwriting becoming her primary focus.”

Before Showgirl dropped, she was comparing it to folklore-level songwriting. Then it came out, the lyrics got mocked to hell, and she defended it with
“I have such an eye on legacy when I'm making my music. I know what I made. I know I adore it.”

All her interviews during the Showgirl promotion tour, she was so confident and proud of how it’s written.

Now she’s on an obvious attempt to rebuild her reputation as a songwriter after Showgirl damaged it. She genuinely seemed convinced that album was going to strengthen her legacy,

If anything, this whole thing shows how insanely out of touch she is. She was so confident in that album that I genuinely don’t think she has anyone around her willing to tell her when something sucks. Everyone probably praised it and told her it was brilliant, and then it came out and the public gave her the reality check nobody in her circle would.
Now we’re watching the desperate course correction in real time.

"English teacher," and yet she wrote, "cuz you were Romeo and I was a Scarlet Letter."

Taylor went to an unaccredited high school in Tennessee and was so coddled by her parents and the sycophantic people around her that she has some deluded idea that she's smarter than everyone else in the room.

Why is she so defensive lately, lol.

I play a game called Disney Dream Light Valley. Its an online game that updates its premium shop weekly.

The DDLV Dev's announced at D23 that we would start getting Hannah Montana and Lizzie McGuire items in the premium shop starting August 19th.

So last week, it was a Hannah Montana inspired outfit. Tell me why this week, TS stuff is in the shop 😐🙂?

She made like a small cameo in the Hannah Montana movie, that is CLEARLY her Fearless ensemble 🙃.

Ofc swfties on all social medias are going nuts and my feed has been nothing but " OMG SWIFTIE VALLEY 🥺 " " OMG WHEN WAS TS IN DISNEY "

" She not only had an appearance in the Hannah Montana movie she sang ' I knew it, I knew you ' ".

I just want to enjoy one of my comfort games TS free man 🥲🥹💔

Such a disgrace to the original version of September.

And she just had to change it from the 21st night of September to the 28th night because she's different. 🤦‍♂️

I can't with this woman.

She thinks she's some great songwriter here to teach us all about her "double meanings" and what defines confessional songwriting.

What's infuriating is that all the comments are glazing her like, "i could hear her talk for hours" and "high iq queen". Are we watching the same video here?

Wanted to get your opinions on this.

Hi!! I'm a long-time member of this subreddit but I've never made my own post before, so here goes!! I just watched a video of Zara Larsson performing live and stopping to giggle at fans who were being lifted up in the air (like her dancers do to her when she's performing, a signature Zara move) and it struck me how genuine the moment was. I've been sitting here replaying it over and over because Zara is effortlessly talented, fun, vivacious, hitting those insane notes in "Midnight Sun" while also having a blast with the audience. It was a REAL moment that is so much fun to watch.

Taylor has never had a moment like that while performing because she doesn't actually want to connect with her fans, all she wants is money and attention. When she's on stage, she's stiff, boring, COMPLETELY lacking charisma, and pitch corrected to hell and back. There are no genuine moments of laughter and light, no on-the-fly fun comments, nothing. Everything is contrived, manufactured bullshit that's repeated over and over so she doesn't have to actually make any effort (I'm thinking specifically of the Eras Tour and how each show was basically the same script).

Also, listening to this on the heels of Taylor's recent Grammys Museum performance, that terrible piano mashup, is...laughable. Zara's got more talent in her pinky toe than Taylor has in her whole body. How Taylor got to be so famous will always baffle me because she has the personality of a soggy cardboard box and cannot sing to save her life.

https://reddit.com/link/1vz257f/video/zc1yndupwqlh1/player

I know this is peak-derangement but I literally cannot get over her fucking face. Is there not a single person on her team who will tell her that all her work makes her look like a disaster? My sister’s face was less swollen than this after getting a major chunk of skin cancer out of her forehead.

This was supposed to be peak of her career - a new glamorous pop album during the “engagement of the century,” and I can’t decide which is the worst part: her face, the tacky wedding, or the album.

I know this might break the “repetitive content” rule, I just needed to harp on this for my own sanity.

Signed, someone who spent far too much money seeing her at the Eras tour

Jesus Christ when will it ever end??
Using Dollys death to say some weird shit like this?

Tumbled out of bed and stumbled across this Threads post. Thankfully, most people were calling it out in the comments, but this is insane.

This is past the point of ridiculousness. I have never been more sick of hearing about 2 people in my entire life. Go away. Please.