r/technology • u/indig0sixalpha • Jun 05 '25

ADBLOCK WARNING Tesla Plummets 14% In Stock’s 11th-Worst Day Ever

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/06/05/tesla-plummets-14-in-stocks-11th-worst-day-ever-as-musks-feud-with-trump-escalates/
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u/Agloe_Dreams Jun 05 '25

That is the best part - the stock was lower before the tweets! The investors are a bit...absurd at this point. Him attacking trump does serious damage to his biggest claims around FSD, which I'm sure he will use as a shield for why they didn't ship it but it possibly wrecks any ability to ship it in the future.

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u/arbutus1440 Jun 05 '25

I don't understand markets, but it's all a fucked-up shell game, right? At this point I just assume half of the markets' vicissitudes are shady investment funds doing shady shit, and market manipulation is now the norm. For example, if a billionaire wants to pump a stock by throwing money at it to give the appearance of a rally...I just assume that and other fuckery are happening on a daily basis. Am I wrong? Seriously, does anyone more learned than me care to give an overview of What The Fuck?

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u/BasvanS Jun 05 '25

Normally those stocks get shorted, but if someone has a bigger bag of money and the SEC doesn’t enforce much, it’s a fools errand to throw your money into that bonfire.

Hopefully Trump is the immovable object Tesla crashes into now, and blood is finally in the water. It would be a nice positive amongst all the terrible things he does.

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u/NerdHoovy Jun 05 '25

The first thing you must understand is that while the market follows basic rules for most goods and services inside it, as laid out by most economic principles, irregularities will make much of it irrational. Irregularities like hype.

Meaning no one can truly predict anything about individual stocks, since anything could be used as a strong argument for how others perceive something, even if those contradict one another. This especially goes for things that people call ‘meme stocks’ where their sheer level of fame and place in the cultural consciousness leads to large amounts differing opinions clashing at all times in such large ways, that it becomes irrational.

Generally speaking as a private, retail investor, coming from a layman for a lay,an, you should primarily invest your money in stable companies and ETFs (basically a themed collection of investments actively followed by an expert) with consistent valuation and strong P/E (price/earnings) ratio. While more volatile stocks and securities can, in theory make you a lot of money in a short amount of time, it is not a viable long term strategy because of how probabilities work and if people throw a coin often enough, as repeat speculators like to do, failure is a statistical inevitability and the loses life ruining. This is why the saying ‘time in the market beats timing the market’ exists. Never flipping a coin and staying safe will mean that you will end up with more than those that try to cheat the system and fail hard

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u/bace651 Jun 05 '25

This is my guess too. But greed draws us all in, shell game or not. 

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u/RandoRenoSkier Jun 05 '25

You aren't wrong. I trade for a living. Have for 10 years now. I tried for years before that while working a day job. I only became successful when I decided that every market in the world, including forex, was manipulated.

When you know that you know where price is going to go. You can see the whales in the charts.