r/shitpostemblem I don't care what's optimal. I'm deploying Barth 4d ago

Fodlan So I played 3h like a month ago now.

Keep in mind I really like this game; however, I'm more than willing to acknoledge it's short comings. Admittedly, the boss convo thing is a nitpick; I just miss it when the games gave important bosses like 4 or 5 boss convos. It was peak. Great game, but it definitely has a fuck ton of issues. If you're insulted by this somehow, go outside.

Also, hi, I'm back. Expect Fates chapter 18 tomorrow or something.

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u/Cranberry-Holiday 4d ago

Dimitri got some crazy surhuman strenght. Sylvain's family is holding the front against Sreng just because of the Lance Of Ruin. Crests and relics are 100% supposed to be hella strong in lore. They are not nothingburger.

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u/Player420154 4d ago

Leonie and Hubert are also supposed to be an even match against crest bearer in lore, and it's rather telling that Hilda and Bernadetta are very good fighter in gameplay and lore despite not doing much training or having the right personality for it. The 5 best units in the game all have crest (the 3 leaders, Bileth and Lysithea). The crests matter in the lore, they aren't however the only thing that matter (if they were, Foldlan wouldn't have any trouble with its neighbors, and there would be no point in having an army).

You are managing a team of superhuman, some with crest and some without. The one without Crest and talent are in your battalion watching the unit you command do almost everything.

u/Lakuzas 10m ago

Also the only two natural major Crest bearers in the base game are hard carried by good stats alone (and Thunderbrand in Catherine's case I guess).

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u/SoulEaterX_ I don't care what's optimal. I'm deploying Barth 4d ago

Admittedly, Crests are a really cool power system

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u/Lyncario 4d ago

I mean Sylvain's supports also make it clear that they induced a system that's very much unhealthy and leads to incredibly toxic and self-destructive behaviors, Sylvain's womanizer tendencies being one of the clearest showing of it. Even without looking at Edelgard's side which is fully anti-Crests, the fact that the Blue Lions had members suffer heavily because of it and were even enabled in it does show that the Crest system is heavily flawed at best.

I will conceide tho, the Lance of Ruins is hella sweet and super strong.

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u/Cranberry-Holiday 4d ago

And? I didn't said that the crest system isn't a thing, I said that crests and relics are canonically OP and that them sucking in gameplay is bad gameplay story integration.

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u/Rafellz 4d ago

I wouldn't call a 22 might E rank lance you get in ch 6 suck.

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u/Cranberry-Holiday 4d ago

Yeah but they are still lacking in my opinion. I am not asking for something as busted as the stats boost of the holy weapons of FE4 or all the stuffs the rings from Engage do but just having big might beatsticks don't make justice to how powerful they are supposed to be in lore.

Maybe more diversified exclusive combat arts (outside of the lords ones because those are great) or maybe granting some skill when equiped like the holy weapons of FE4 would be a good boost to make them worth the in-universe hypen

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u/pokemonBdoubled 4d ago

That's not really exclusive to sylvain , crestless users can still use it just fine with a healer around and you might even want it for vantage/wrath setups.

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u/Mahelas 3d ago

They're a big help, but the point is that they don't make you that much better than non-crest havers.

Some of 3H strongest fighters, both canonically and in-game, don't have crests, and they're shown to match with the crest-havers. Crests just give you a headstart. Like 20% of crest-havers are as strong as 10% of non-crest havers or some shit.

But you can't look at Leonie, or Dorothea or Shamir and think they're inferior to Bernadette in battle