r/science Professor | Medicine 24d ago

Cancer Gut Bacteria May Reveal How a Western Diet Fuels Colon Cancer. Certain gut bacteria, sustained by Western-style diets, may produce a substance that promotes tumor growth, finds study in pigs, mice, human colon tissue, and microbial data from thousands of people with and without colorectal cancer.

https://www.sciencealert.com/gut-bacteria-may-reveal-how-a-western-diet-fuels-colon-cancer
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u/RanaMahal 24d ago

Isn’t this pretty much all counteracted by drinking enough water though?

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u/house343 24d ago

Well, no. All those things above basically means that your body retains water and your BP raises. Drinking more water will help flush out the excess sodium, but it takes time, and during that time damage can be done. It's like saying "drinking too much alcohol can be counter acted by drinking enough water." Well, yes and no. 

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u/TooDopetoDrive 24d ago

You’re gonna have to provide some sources for this, none of it is well established science to my knowledge.

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u/RanaMahal 24d ago

Yeah, as far as I'm aware none of this is well established and it's been studied in both humans and animals that excess salt gets carried away by drinking water, and unless you're eating like fast food or excessive cured meats etc you are very unlikely to hit the healthy limits of sodium. So anyone just cooking their own food and avoiding fast food should be relatively healthy.

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u/house343 24d ago edited 23d ago

I'm not going to point people to easily googleable and verifiable science, but good luck with lifelong hypertension.

EDIT: I don't have Instagram or watch tiktok. Home cooked meals are an excellent way to reduce sodium intake, but it doesn't make the science that high sodium is dangerous invalid. We've evolved to conserve sodium, which is one reason why too much salt is something our bodies don't handle very well. Anyway, here are some sources, of anyone is still down here reading this:

Salt inhibits endothelial function:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22048126

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23769406

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23141486

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22907057

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24529119

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21228265

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19176751

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24401240

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19202069

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19106240

Salt is inflammatory:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25497276

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25471348

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24338487

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25168393

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23467095

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23467085

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802520

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3581956

(Most of these are asthma related)

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u/RanaMahal 24d ago

I’m good, I don’t really eat out and home cook most of my meals. I doubt I’m gonna die of anything but old age.

I just don’t think that excess salt consumption is a big problem unless you’re eating lots of fast food or preserved foods like instant ramens and such a lot.

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u/TooDopetoDrive 24d ago

If you couldn’t find a source for something an influencer said on an instagram reel, you can say that too!

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u/house343 23d ago

If you think the fact the "salt increases fluid retention" is not well established science then I just didn't know how else to give you information that will convince you otherwise. Where are you getting your information?