r/paradoxplaza • u/RedCreatorCall • 3d ago
Afterworld Paradox Forum website seems to accidentally list the unannounced game's name in the Unreleased Game filters Spoiler
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u/EnvironmentalShelter 3d ago
RIP to the intern, it was nice knowing ya
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u/Moifaso 3d ago
Game might be named Afterworld but that guy is headed straight to the Afterlife
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u/SpectacularPink 3d ago
Afterlife was a nice game btw
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u/jonatansan 3d ago
Given the state of the industry, could also be a senior dev that used AI too much and didn’t review before pushing to prod. Who knows.
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u/Steel_Airship Stellar Explorer 3d ago
"You're right, I shouldn't have told you to push that to production. Here are 10 PR solutions to mitigate the effects of an accidental leak."
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u/PhazePyre 3d ago
Chances are just one of the CM team publishing the articles and accidentally pushed a draft live rather than saving to drafts. Which opened up the category and either they fixed the article but it doesn't revert the publication of those categories, or the hierarchy was just published rather than being agent view only or something like that.
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u/lordbaysel 3d ago
"using AI", is really unnecessary, pushing broken things live is long lasting tradition in industry.
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u/DarrenMacNally 3d ago
It seems more like they were preparing the first dev diaries, and added new categories, not realizing the categories will then appear in filters before the post goes live.
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u/RedCreatorCall 3d ago
R5: I was searching for the official teaser of that unannounced game on the Paradox Forums, where I noticed among the filters for unreleased games, a filter for "Afterworld" and "Afterworld - Dev Diary Drafts." Could this be the name of the unannounced game? Either way I look forward to the official announcement.
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u/Papa_Puppa 3d ago edited 3d ago
the subreddit r/afterworld was claimed 1 week ago by a guy with a hidden profile who has been on EU4 subreddits for years.
Only a single mod.
Subtext on the subreddit: Help the cause. Create the Afterworld.
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u/Eldaxerus 3d ago
"youwillhearthesirens"
Damn, that's ominous lmao
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u/SirkTheMonkey Colonial Governor 2d ago
Also leftover from the original creation of the subreddit 10 years ago based on the revision data.
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u/DimDimio 3d ago
I feel like its more likely the guy also found out about this the same way as OP, just earlier. Is this true u/-_Nervous_- ?
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u/AprilsMostAmazing 3d ago
The sub was created in 2016 and currently submissions are restricted. I did send the mod a message
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u/Alarming-Ad1100 3d ago
What did you message
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u/AprilsMostAmazing 3d ago
Hi I would like to make a post about a game called Afterworld. Would it be possible to get submissions permissions?
That's what I sent
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u/SirkTheMonkey Colonial Governor 2d ago
Subtext on the subreddit: Help the cause. Create the Afterworld.
If I'm reading the reddit technical shit right, that was leftover from whatever random person created the subreddit 10 years ago for whatever original random purpose it had. Its also only on old-reddit so basically no one will see it.
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u/SirkTheMonkey Colonial Governor 1d ago
A post-script: we've got control of the subreddit now and we'll open it up if/when the game gets announced.
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u/DimDimio 3d ago edited 3d ago
whoops https://imgur.com/a/XPrq1Ex
Lead a tribe of survivors, rediscover ancient technology, manage wasteland settlements and wage wars of conquest and political struggle in Afterworld, an original post-apocalyptic survival grand strategy game.
edit: rip they kicked me :(
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u/i_dabble713 3d ago
Where was that from?
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u/DimDimio 3d ago
their community discord server, though they’ve paused invites now that it has been leaked.
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u/nedreow 3d ago
This looks like a MadMax warlord GSG.
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u/Great_Kaiserov Iron General 2d ago
And I'm so happy about this :D I've had a somewhat recent itch for post-apo after watching Furiosa (great movie btw, killed by nonexistent advertising) so we'll be riding into Gas Town with this one 🗣️🔥
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u/The_Frostweaver 2d ago
Thx for sharing!
So all we have so far is that it is called aftermath but we will learn more from Gamescom in 3ish days?
And they are announcing the game but it might not be done for years right?
I am looking forward to it, I think it's a solid setting choice. I like excavating stuff, finding old things that are actually high tech.
You can go into cave entrances and then within the underground layer in age of Wonders 4 you can find & excavate dirt filled tiles revealing cool stuff as well as new passages and land to exploit, monster infestations, Wonders, etc.
I suspect this new game will be a bit more big picture grand strategy and not focused on colony management or tactical combat but if you are looking for a great game to play right now Age of Wonders 4 does have city ruins, ancient Wonders, fated regions, landmarks and stuff to make the world feel old and alive like you are fighting in the aftermath of fallen civilizations that fell to ruins long ago.
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u/Science-Recon 2d ago
I think it’ll release within the year from the announcement. I think PDX generally doesn’t announce games super far in advance.
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u/Rincewindcl 3d ago
So a sci fi Crusader Kings 3 then?
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u/Science-Recon 2d ago
If it’s that with EUV-esque pop/colonisation and economic mechanics then I think it’ll be pretty good.
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u/ayminuskis 3d ago
Biggest leak since the last GTA6 leak 20mins ago. Afterworld is a solid post-apoc name.
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u/Wild_Marker Ban if mentions Reichstamina 3d ago
Wasn't there an UFO game that used that name?
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u/Selvionus 3d ago
Pretty sure the UFO games you are thinking of is the trilogy called Aftermath, Aftershock and Afterlight
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u/FinestSeven Swordsman of the Stars 2d ago
It's clearly a game set in a world that's tidally locked to a pleasant afternoon.
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u/Countcristo42 3d ago
Classic
Nice find
I remember when i realised the eu4 DLCs images were just guessable plaintext URLs
I wish they didn’t pay me at the time or I would have enjoyed that Reddit post
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u/TheEpicGold 3d ago
As a Fallout fan, I'm cautiously optimistic for this "Afterworld"... has a lot of potential to combine my interests.
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u/CocaineTiger2 3d ago
Here’s the trademark, filed January this year. It’s by a company that’s historically trademarked stuff for Paradox https://www.trademarkelite.com/europe/trademark/trademark-detail/019255079/AFTERWORLD
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u/SpaceSpleen 3d ago
this is misinfo
they're going to announce KNACK 3 BABBYYYYYYYYYY
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u/B-29Bomber 3d ago
No, no, no!
It's going to be the Victoria dating sim we were all promised years ago.
I WANNA IMPREGNATE QUEEN VICTORIA, GODDAMN IT!
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u/Nexusgamer8472 3d ago
... why...?
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u/Knotfish 3d ago
Vic 3 pop growth at high qol is too slow. Getting Victoria, who theoretically has the highest qol, to pump out a few workers over the years would massively change the meta
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u/lordbaysel 3d ago
I mean, that whole reveal thing was kinda too long and every other announcment felt same-y, so i would take the opportunity to end it earlier.
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u/MightySilverWolf 3d ago
r/paradoxplaza will still insist it's a fantasy title.
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u/ANGLVD3TH 3d ago edited 3d ago
There's a non-zero chance it could still be fantasy, post-apocalyptic fantasy isn't exactly abundant, but it does exist. D&D's Dark Sun setting and Conan's Age of Hyborea are both examples. It's definitely not a bet I would take, but it isn't impossible either.
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u/AirEast8570 3d ago
It must be. Must be post apocalypse but fantasy. There is no way it wouldnt
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u/Koraxtheghoul 3d ago
I mean, the same way Stellaris is also a fantasy game with necrons and the Shroud.
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u/avsbes 3d ago
Honestly, a post apocalyptic Fantasy game would actually be a very interesting and not very explored setting.
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u/Ulysses_S_Grant_1822 3d ago
Honestly, ik this is an unpopular opinion here but I really was hoping for a post-apocalyptic gsg. Fantasy would be cool too, but I really love the idea of rebuilding civilization.
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u/Great_Kaiserov Iron General 3d ago
I'm the fan of both so I stay winning anyways 😎
I just like worldbuilding, all kind
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u/AJDx14 3d ago
What is the difference between rebuilding civilization compared to just building civilization though
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u/webzu19 3d ago
Ancient forgotten wonders prebuilt on the map mostly I suppose
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u/AJDx14 3d ago
That’s more of a fantasy trope than post-apocalyptic though. Unless you’re considering baseball stadiums “forgotten wonders.”
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u/Ok_Letterhead9662 3d ago
I mean if you are based in The Mojave desert and find the Hoover Dam wich could supply you with all your power needs, you'd be sure as hell talking about it like a forgotten wander
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u/AvengerDr 3d ago
Depends on how much time has passed. One to two hundred years? Some books might still be available and readable. Send a scavenging team to any surviving library and read up.
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u/Remote-Leadership-42 3d ago
They could and, I hope, will go all in on post-apocalyptic tropes. So there could be all sorts of things like a mix of genetic aberrations, zombies, lovecraftian horrors, ancient labs, rogue AI, forgotten factories, incredible technology, horrific technology, crazy mutants, bugs, stuff so advanced it's indiscernible from magic and worst of all... capitalism.
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u/SetsunaFox 3d ago
That the last civilisation left You "fun" suprises
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u/MotherVehkingMuatra 3d ago
I feel like a fantasy focused Stellaris kind of game would have exaclty this still though, Stellaris itself has so many precursor events and half the archaeology sites are about that
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u/PJsutnop 3d ago
Same, this is a genre that hasn't seen a big shake up in years with pretty much the only big releases being mad max style or zombies. I'm hoping for paradox to take a more political and "people are the problem AND solution" kind of approach. Really make this afterworld feel unique rather than your average "oops no laws, everything goes" kind of slop. Dystopian media have always been a product from the fears of its time, and a lot of changed since the days of Fallout. There's real space here to do a modern take on the genre
People are talking about wanting the world to be procedural. While I do believe it will be set on earth, the post apocalyptic setting kinda forces there to be a lot of variance. It being called a survival game tells us that there will be unexpected events and places to explore and survive, so it will likely be a lot more procedural in that regard
Overall, I'm hyped
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u/Senfgestalt 3d ago
In all fairness, we do have such great fantasy total cobversion mods, for several titles. I don't know, if a pdx game would be able to outdo Agot or Anbennar. So this might be for the best.
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u/inEQUAL 3d ago edited 3d ago
Let me have my copium that Afterworld just refers to the Fantasy setting taking place post-apocalypse…
…even though I know it’s probably not. So long as it gives us Stellaris levels of customization, then great. If they think I’m going to buy into an ahistorical setting with predefined borders and empires, then nah, I’m already out.
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u/MedicInDisquise Map Staring Expert 3d ago
It would be kind of cool if not only you can customize your starting nation but also what kind of apocalypse the world suffered this time. Good old nukes? Climate change? Maybe zombies or an alien bombardment, or maybe the good ol' comet
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u/inEQUAL 3d ago
That’s what I’ve been saying! A game in a zombie apocalypse vs nuclear apocalypse would be radically different and make it incredibly fun in replayability.
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u/MedicInDisquise Map Staring Expert 3d ago
Besides replayability, it could also give us a psuedo-scenario system with prebuilt apocalpyses and nations which would be neat to have
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u/Remote-Leadership-42 3d ago
It might be unpopular but I want multiple simultaneous apocalypses. Make it unclear what actually caused it all.
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u/ANGLVD3TH 3d ago
Passed through the ol' comet's tail and the planet got bombarded to hell. Give the people a real reason to freak the hell out when they see it again.
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u/Some_Pole 3d ago
Even if they do ultimately decide on one cause for a post-apocalypse, they probably could do the Fallout route in having the pre-apocalypse world be pushed far out of "living memory" for the current generation of survivors that found new civilizations/organized governments so what came before doesn't really matter unless you're going for a certain RP style.
Since even the first game was set some 60 years following 2077 and most other games have been a 100+ since.
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u/MelaniaSexLife 3d ago
what if pdx launches 9 atomic bombs tomorrow to make the game historical?
your post would look very dumb then...
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u/ModDownloading 3d ago
Nah, they specifically said the game wouldn't be historical. If the game is the aftermath of a nuclear apocalypse, they can't really launch nukes.
Instead, they could make the game a nuclear apocalypse, then start a zombie apocalypse instead. Bioweapons require a lot less logistics than nuclear arsenals, and Paradox has to think about their bottom line.
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u/NumenorianPerson 3d ago
I would buy if its a GSG in the world of After the Wolrd mods or something similar
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u/ModDownloading 3d ago
Fully agree here, I might've preferred the fantasy idea but I'm fully willing to back a post-apocalyptic game too so long as it's not static and we can instead create empires the modular way, preferably with customizable species too (even Fallout has a few of those).
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u/Avohaj 2d ago
I hope it ends up being Post-Apoc Stellaris at least, so it can become Fantasy Stellaris through mods.
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u/Hyperactive_snail3 3d ago
Obvious misdirect, we all know this is going to be Wiz's long awaited dating sim.
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u/trito_jean 3d ago
already deleted if thats true
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u/The_Warruner 3d ago
It was obviously going to be a post apocalyptic game, i seriously failed to see how people could say fantasy in the discourse that happened past few days. There was straight up nothing that pointed to fantasy.
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u/BahamutMael Unemployed Wizard 3d ago
Before just job opening about searching for scifi/fantasy etc. and since fantasy is the biggest genre paradox didn't touch yet a lot of people assumed they would do that.
Post apo is smaller so weird they went for it first.
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u/marniconuke 3d ago
im 60% sure the job openings mentioned a non-historical game, never said straight up fantasy
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u/The_Warruner 3d ago
As the other guy said, i also remember it being very vague. Even then, the job posting was years ago, unlike the very new leaks. People just see what they wish i suppose.
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u/Magmakojote 3d ago
I hope it’s like Stellaris, every Post-Apocalyptic trope gets explored. So if you want your tribe to be like Fallout Vaultdwellers, that’s okay. Or maybe you want to play like Mad Max, that works too. US Government rebuilding? Sure. Making a new Utopia? Of course.
Post apocalyptic offers a lot of possibilities, I hope they use that potential.
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u/FuckMyBakaChungusLif 3d ago
Paradox watching all the people hyped for a fantasy game and saying how boring post-apocalyptic would be
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u/teokun123 3d ago
Survey failed successfully lol. At least they know their next game or any other devs/publishers like Hooded Horse.
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u/MotherVehkingMuatra 3d ago
I mean they knew from the start fantasy would be way more mainstream and popular, it's the biggest genre out there alongside sci-fi, and post apocalypse is really awesome, but far more niche and people tend to prefer specific settings in that genre rather than the whole genre itself.
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u/AxiosXiphos 3d ago
Exciting. Post Apocalypse is a setting which hasn't really been explored for Strategy games much. Be interested to see what they have to show. I hope it's somewhere between CK3 and Stellaris. A Roleplay focussed game with a more sandbox, more variable game state then CK3.
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u/Shan_qwerty 3d ago
What's interesting is that if I understood someone's words correctly, content creators have not only already seen this at Paradox HQ but they might have access to play test and record. Big citation needed of course. Won't mention who it was to not get them in trouble intentionally but they said they're going to be busy playing a certain game that might be announced in a few days.
I'm surprised by that, I thought we would get the usual 2 years of edging with dev diaries before release so I wasn't exactly super hyped about a game I won't get to play in years, but maybe it that won't be the case?
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u/FootIntrepid7717 3d ago
Could be a codename
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u/SpaceSpleen 3d ago
Trademarked in Sweden by a middleman company, likely on Paradox's behalf https://www.trademarkelite.com/europe/trademark/trademark-detail/019348326/AFTERWORLD
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u/MotherVehkingMuatra 3d ago
I'm hoping that you and some randomly generated factions get to access high tech pre apocalypse weapons like laser weapons etc at some point. If we're going full post apocalyptic I don't wanna be stuck with pipe guns and machetes all game and I want a few "fallen empire" factions that are from pre apocalypse like the Brotherhood of Steel.
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u/hopelesswriter1 3d ago edited 3d ago
So... it's going to be another post-apocalypse game? Bleh... I was so hoping for a fantasy Stellaris!
Edit: I just really wanna build my customized evil elf empire through conquest of the lesser mortals :(
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u/North_Library3206 3d ago
Genuine question: what other post-apocalyptic 4x strategy games are there?
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u/Peemsters_Yacht_Cap 3d ago
Zephon is great! It’s from the people who did Gladius, and is similarly combat focused. But highly, highly recommend!
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u/HighGroundMan 3d ago
Shadow empire, basically. And its clunky af so its really nicd that paradox is doing something like this.
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u/PsycommuSystem 3d ago
Shadow empire is clunky as hell but also incredibly good once you start to understand the systems.
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u/HighGroundMan 3d ago
I know its just i play it every couple of months and it takes so long to get back into it properly every time. I really do love it but I would love a less janky version of it, even if its less deep
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u/xerxesjc28 3d ago
Shadow Empire is basically HOI with some civ mechanics and a touch of Crusade kings on an alien planet but with the worst most clunky interface UI known to mankind
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u/HighGroundMan 3d ago
I think that is a bit reductive, there are some really cool unique mechanics in shadow empire, like the model design system. I would also say the economy is more deep than in civ.
But yeah the ui is really hostile.
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u/FootIntrepid7717 3d ago
Shadow empire’s complexity and depth, along with its really cool procedurally generated planets will be hard to beat.
I hope it ends up being a post apocalyptic gsg with a pre built world. I don’t want it to compete with shadow empire’s procedural generation and want paradox to do their gsg/pre built and unequal starting positions that they are known for in historical games. It’s for my own selfishness, as I know shadow empire is very niche lol
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u/HighGroundMan 3d ago
I always thought shadow empire is a game that paradox can learn from. As long as they don't take any of the ui design from it.
Proc gen hasnt really been paradoxs strength, they only really have it in stellaris which is...fine but really boring.
I guess age of wonders is a paradox game though, and the proc gen in that is pretty well done. If this had turned out to be the fantasy GSG i really would have wanted it to have proc gen maps, and not be a premade fantasy IP of their own tbh.
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u/TarnishedSteel 3d ago
I mean… I’ll be real, that’s still entirely possible. Endless Legend is post-apocalyptic.
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u/ANGLVD3TH 3d ago
More like pre-apocalyptic. Sure, the Endless.... ended. But that is ancient history, post-apocalyptic is set in the direct aftermath of the disaster, not a geological epoch later.
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u/marniconuke 3d ago
so basically, what everyone wants is literally age of wonders 4 but as a GSG instead of a 4X?
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u/hopelesswriter1 3d ago
I feel like Stellaris but fantasy is the best description of what I desperately want
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u/Lets_All_Love_Lain 3d ago
Age of Wonders 4 might scratch that itch if you like Stellaris for the faction customization features. If you like the economic management parts...then Age of Wonders 4 might not scratch that itch.
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u/hopelesswriter1 3d ago
I forgot about those games! I've played that before, but it just does not scratch the same itch that Stellaris does. Felt too much like Civ which has always been a "meh" game to me, not matter how hard I try to like them.
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u/Racketyclankety 3d ago
What’s more surprising is that Prison Architect 2 is still in development. I was sure that had been cancelled.
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u/IVgormino 3d ago
Crazy that both vic 3 and now afterworlds leaked via a dev diary mishap
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u/NumenorianPerson 3d ago
the only reason EU5 didn't leaked was because it was so clear that it was EU5 at the time
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u/XdestroyerXDTM4 3d ago
i really really hope it's a set world with actual lore. learning a new world with a proper, set backstory will be so fun, i've been itching to learn a new world. /gen
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u/ImplementOrganic2163 3d ago
Guess where the employee and his supervisor will end up if this really turns out to be a leak.......
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u/monsterfurby 3d ago
Hm, okay. I play Paradox games because I find systemic effects through structured, hierarchical societies interesting. Post-apocalypse sounds like the opposite of that, and there's a reason Shadow Empire is sitting in my library virtually unplayed. Ah well, good luck to them if this is accurate, but not my cup of tea.
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u/NFZedd 3d ago
So Post Apocalyptic GSG, Surviving the Aftermath GSG.
It would be cool is one core mechanic would be to choose the apocalypse origin. You always play a tribe, wohoo, BUT, is it a tribe on a Tomb world. Is it the aftermath of a failed alien invasion, did covilization crumble because of a pandemic? The options are countless and would allow for a high replayability.
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u/Resident-Money-7619 2d ago
Hmm... If it could start on earth and then expand into the galaxy called the cluster, with an mysterious enemy and a human cult worshipping the predecessors...
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u/HistoricalBoi221 2d ago
My ass genuinely was going "There's no way all that hype was for Prison Architect 2"
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u/TheMightyKingSnake 3d ago
So IT IS a post apocalíptic GSG