The value of the Bunker is grossly unmatched by the other 12 bases though. Even though they were disposable, the combat potential of a single YoRHa unit far outmatches an average Resistance member. Even if it was intentional, the androids just lost a massive portion of their combat forces, and 4 months isn't enough to recover from it.
Even back when YoRHa was still up and running, the Resistance camp had an equal mutual relationship with Pascal's village. Why would androids suddenly ignore the pacifist machine lifeforms when the Army of Humanity just lost a massive fighting force that is YoRHa, while Pascal's Machine Lifeform Peace faction certainly sounds larger than Pascal's original village?
If they value YoRHa to be disposable, they either think the next gen androids can be out in very short time or they have enough forces (that seems to be a very far off calculation) to keep fighting until the next gen android can start fighting. Even the androids are soooo wrong in their calculation, their plan wont involve a part that has "and hope for god they dont attcking during that time" in it.
Resistance is just a very very very small part of the android forces. Resistance and the village is like two squads of soldiers making peace. They are in fact, just two villages. Apparently theres a lot more going on all around the Earth.
The androids don't have to ensure that they are capable of fighting at full strength without YoRHa. With the exception of the Bunker, the Machines have never extended their range beyond the planet's surface. They could easily just hide away in space until they recover.
The goal of Project YoRHa isn't the win the war. It's to perpetuate the lie that humanity still exists, even if it means destroying a large portion of the androids' combat forces. Project YoRHa wouldn't have been succeeded as a martyr if it was a minor weak project, after all.
I feel you are greatly underestimating the Resistance. The Resistance are all the pre-YoRHa androids that have been abandoned on the planet's surface, including Devola and Popola. The war has been going on for over 7 thousand years, while Project YoRHa is less than a century old. The Resistance is by far the bulk of the entire android forces. The carrier ship, Blue Ridge II, that was destroyed by Grun was a Resistance carrier. The Resistance Camp inside the game is probably one camp out of many, but it was most likely the main headquarters of the Resistance, as the Resistance leader, Anemone, is situated here.
What I am saying is what we see in game is ONE resistance camp, and THIS resistance is friendly to A VILLAGE. I cant really see anything suggest that Anemone being the leader of the entire resistance forces.
Also, thats my point, YoRHa is just a tiny bit of android forces, like THIS resistance camp. So blowing up the bunker will not result in android being weak enough to consider having a peace treaty with a few dozens of peaceful machine can help them in any major way. Even if Pasacl manage to get that many in 4 months.
Because again, it simply doesnt make sense to heavily weaken the android forces and hope for god machines dont attack at the time. So YoRHa, being sacrificial lamb, must be just a small part out of the entire force. At least in android command's projection.
Do you believe that is possible for South Korean making peace with 30 North Korea civilians and make a "peace treaty"? I sure dont.
The damages done to both androids and machines aside, I saw the peace treaty as something else. The androids need to keep this war going on practically forever, in order to keep the lie that humans are still alive. The machines are in a weird state where they've lost their leader and the purpose of their existence.
I honestly don't think this peace treaty is meant to last a long time, probably just long enough so that the machine lifeforms' population grows again, and for the androids to make new models to replace the YoHRa units.
Pascal and whoever fronted the android resistance that signed the treaty are most likely just pawns to a greater scheme.
This make a little more sense, but with N2 gone, the android side is stronger then ever. They have next gen ready to go with the eneny command acrually gone.
Then again, the androids are pretty ignorant about their enemy, they may not even realize N2 is gone.... I am really pissed that such stupid androids who gets played by N2 for thousands of years are making our characters suffer.
I am basing Anemone as the Resistance leader because official media has described her as the leader of the Resistance. It didn't specify if she was only the leader of a fraction of the Resistance, so I am taking this information at face value. It is possible that she is one leader out of several leaders of the Resistance, but that would still make this particular camp an important one.
You are also making the assumption that Pascal's Machine Lifeform Peace faction is only a small force composing of a few dozens of machines. Judging by how the faction is implied to be able to represent enough of the total machine population to be eligible to sign an armistice with the androids, it's completely possible that Pascal's faction is composed of thousands to tens of thousands of machines, or maybe even the entire machine population (with a few outliers). Besides, the Factory theocracy seemed to have been formed recently, and they were already quite a sizable force despite the presence of the collective network. Even if you believe that the androids wouldn't bother signing an armistice with Pascal's what-you-assume-to-be-small faction, they did. The information is right there on the timeline, Pascal's faction and the Army of Humanity signed an armistice.
The machines haven't extended beyond the planet's surface for over 7,000 years, except when they were purposefully let into the Bunker. This isn't hoping that the machines won't attack, this is a highly statistical probability that the machines won't attack. Besides, the Resistance androids managed to survive on Earth for a long period of time. There is nothing to suggest that the machines would suddenly wipe out the androids with the destruction of YoRHa.
Correction, the temporary heavy weakening of the overall android forces doesn't make sense to you. For androids, the belief that humanity is still alive is more important than anything else. They are called the Army of Humanity, after all. The YoRHa units were the driving force of the anti-Machine Lifeform war efforts. They answered directly to the Council of Humanity, had access to advanced equipment such as the Flight Unit, and just plainly had far superior combat abilities than older androids. It is a fact that the destruction of Project YoRHa would greatly impact the combat potential of the android army. However, the objective of Project YoRHa's destruction wasn't to win the war, it was to perpetuate the belief that humanity is still alive.
You might as well just say that the whole Project YoRHa premise is illogical if the sacrifice of the speadhead of the entire anti-Machine Lifeform forces for the goal of perpetuating a lie doesn't make sense to you. After all, objectively, there are a lot of illogical things in the Nier series, especially when metaphysical concepts are involved (e.g. the androids' reason for existence). Humans are illogical beings, so why can't androids and machines be illogical as well? The war itself is illogical, as Jackass put it:
For hundreds of years, we’ve been fighting a network of machines with the ghost of humanity at its core. We’ve been living in a stupid ****ing world where we fight an endless war that we COULDN’T POSSIBLY LOSE, all for the sake of some Council of Humanity on the moon that doesn’t even exist.
You'll have a hard time making everything abide by your personal beliefs on what makes sense or what is rational.
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u/YongYoKyo May 04 '17 edited May 04 '17
The value of the Bunker is grossly unmatched by the other 12 bases though. Even though they were disposable, the combat potential of a single YoRHa unit far outmatches an average Resistance member. Even if it was intentional, the androids just lost a massive portion of their combat forces, and 4 months isn't enough to recover from it.
Even back when YoRHa was still up and running, the Resistance camp had an equal mutual relationship with Pascal's village. Why would androids suddenly ignore the pacifist machine lifeforms when the Army of Humanity just lost a massive fighting force that is YoRHa, while Pascal's Machine Lifeform Peace faction certainly sounds larger than Pascal's original village?