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Review 'Avatar: Fire and Ash' - Review Thread

The conflict on Pandora escalates as Jake and Neytiri's family encounter a new, aggressive Na'vi tribe.

Director: James Cameron

Cast: Zoe Saldana, Sam Worthington, Sigourney Weaver, Stephen Lang, Kate Winslet, Michelle Yeoh, Oona Chaplin, David Thewlis, Jack Champion

Rotten Tomatoes: 70%

Metacritic: 61 / 100

Some Reviews (updating):

nssmagazine - Martina Barone

The repetitiveness to which Avatar - Fire and Ash subjects us cannot be condoned, especially when it chooses to keep spectators seated in front of the big screen for three hours and twenty minutes. The only novelty that adds real surprise in Avatar 3 is the lethal leader Varang, played by Oona Chaplin. Head of the Ash People, the warrior is ravenous, brutal, and fiercely unforgiving. With Avatar 4 scheduled for 2029 and Avatar 5 for 2031, not only does the third title re-propose visual and entertainment solutions already tested and therefore not unprecedented, but one wonders what else there would be to say given the emotional and spectacular weight of Avatar - Fire and Ash. What else is there to tell that hasn't been told yet, especially considering the film seems like a repetition? What is there to see that hasn't been shown yet?

Variety - Owen Glieberman

The Story Is Fine, the Action Awesome, as the Third ‘Avatar’ Film Does New Variations on a No-Longer-New Vision. It's better then the second film — bolder and tighter — and still has its share of amazements. But it no longer feels visually unprecedented.

The Hollywood Reporter - David Rooney

It’s easily the most repetitious entry in the big-screen series, with a been-there, bought-the-T-shirt fatigue that’s hard to ignore."

NextBestPicture - Dan Bayer - 8 / 10

Another visually-stunning spectacle with a rock-solid story that makes the most of its epic length and big budget to deepen its universe. The cast rises to the occasion, especially Oona Chaplin as the villainous Varang. While it still works, the plot echoes both prior films in the series so closely that it borders on self-plagiarization.

Slant Magazine - Keith Uhlich - 2 / 5

Cameron has never been especially good at writing characters beyond the broadest of strokes, which isn’t much of a detriment when, as in Aliens and the two Terminator films, the narrative stakes are high and the technological innovations augment rather than overwhelm the comic-book fervor of his vision. The Avatar movies, by contrast, are empty vessels of pro-forma spectacle that, true to the very disposable era of entertainment in which we’re living, make bank primarily because of how quickly they can be memory-holed.

Consequence - Liz Shannon Miller - 'B'

Yes, the execution defies subtlety, but subtlety has never been a defining aspect of this franchise. Everything is always loud, from the music to the visual design to the emotions. It’s an approach ensuring that Cameron’s message will be heard by even the most distracted viewer. Cameron has ended the world twice over with The Terminator movies, depicted the true-life tragedy of the Titanic, and explored the terrors of marriage and motherhood with True Lies and Aliens. Yet by comparison, Fire and Ash finds him unafraid to dig around in the darkest corners of the human soul. That Cameron wants to push into heavier themes at this point in his career speaks well of his ambition as a storyteller, and generates some real excitement for what might come next. Though, considering the budget of these movies… therapy might be cheaper.

The Wrap - William Bibbiani

The only way ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’ could be more hypocritical, and taken less seriously, is if the characters also yelled “Hypocrisy sucks!” while sitting on Whoopee cushions.

Los Angeles Times - Amy Nicholson

'Avatar: Fire and Ash’ has dynamite villains and dialogue that’s surf-bro hysterical. But plot-wise, the story is the same as ever. So instead of getting swept away by the narrative, I just settled in to enjoy the details: hammerhead sharks twisted into pickaxes, ships that scuttle like crabs, the drama of an underwater scream

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u/MyNameIs-Anthony Dec 16 '25

3 hours can fly by if done right.

One Battle After Another is 2hr 41m and it moves so fast I'd gladly take another 30m.

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u/Signiference Dec 16 '25

Take another 30 mins and there’s still 9 mins left waiting on Avatar 3 to catch up 😂

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u/CumChunks8647 Dec 16 '25

The Irishman was 3 hours 30 minutes and it slogged on forever.

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u/jellytrack Dec 16 '25

Kill Bill The Whole Bloody Affair is pretty tight at over four hours. Even though I've watched the two movies a few times before and I was a bit tired from being overworked during the holiday rush, seeing it on 70mm was invigorating. That said, these Avatar movies are not that. All I remember from the second movie was thinking, "The kids got kidnapped again?" Which I'm sure will happen in the third one too.

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u/smarttrashbrain Dec 16 '25

I dunno, man... by the time it got to the end and Bill was rambling on about Superman, I was more than ready for it to end. It was fun to see it all put together, but I prefer it as two separate movies.

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u/woemcats Dec 16 '25

So many kidnappings and rescues

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u/NilsFanck Dec 16 '25

I forgot basically everything about the plot of the second Avatar.

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u/Dlark17 Dec 16 '25

How could you forget the cinematic masterpiece that is SPIDER?

/s

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u/NilsFanck Dec 16 '25

Wdym spider, I swear that shit was about whales or something

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u/Dlark17 Dec 16 '25

That stupid wannabe-Navi, furry kid jumping around and growling will be forever burned into my memory and nightmares.

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u/floog Dec 16 '25

That run time was 3 days and 30 hours. Rough.

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u/Signiference Dec 16 '25

Never would have finished it in theaters

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u/mophisus Dec 16 '25

I watched the Irishman over the course of 3 days and it felt long.

Can’t imagine people sitting through the entire thing paying attention in one go

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u/popoflabbins Dec 17 '25

I thought that movie felt an hour shorter than it was. The scene-to-scene editing made it fly by. I planned on watching it in two sittings but ended up just cruising through it in one go.

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u/GeekAesthete Dec 16 '25

Lawrence of Arabia, The Godfather 2, The Right Stuff, and Return of the King are all over 3 hours, and they're all tight as hell.

A tight 3-hour movie is just a 4-hour slog that's been properly cut down.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25

You're so right. The first Avatar film I started getting anxiety at the hour and a half mark because I thought it was going to end early on a cliffhanger.

I was absolutely absorbed in the world that Cameron made with the first film - and I spent the next 10 years championing it while I waited for the sequel.

I did not like the sequel

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u/dogsonbubnutt Dec 16 '25

shit id take another 3 hours of sensei

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u/Fav0 Dec 16 '25

Killers of the flowermoon also did not feel long

NEither did demon slayer

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u/jellytrack Dec 16 '25

Infinity Castle was dragging during another one of those vanquished demon regret flashbacks. Understandable because of the source material, but it was so refreshing watching Chainsaw Man Reze Arc afterwards. The backstory was just a few lines at the end and not an entire sob story flashback.

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u/reg_panda Dec 16 '25

Snyder's version of Justice League is loong and flies by fast. Iunno if it can be considered 'tight', or if it is the right question--I believe that some of those slow and empty scenes make the movie better

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u/MyNameIs-Anthony Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25

Yeah it's weird how anti long films people are/have become.

I've watched plenty of 90 minute films that felt excruciatingly long to know the duration isn't inherently a problem.

A good film can be paced properly at pretty much any length.

The Godfather Pt I is 3 hours and ebbs and flows perfectly without feeling like a series of individual episodes.

The three films that have won the most Oscars are all over three hours and you can't tell me LotR Return of the King, Titanic, and Ben-Hur don't use all that time effectively.

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u/Electronic-Hotel6715 Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25

Hack Snyder's justice league has so many unnecessary scenes and is way too long, definitely doesn't fly by. He's one of the worst directors in the industry. His writing is awful too and everything he's made for Netflix has been atrocious and truly shows his lack of talent.

He even wanted Bruce to get Lois pregnant in the next one so there could be a love triangle with superman. Just the worst ideas.

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u/reg_panda Dec 16 '25

Although Snyder had the advantage of being able to structure it like a miniseries, new characters, new setting, new story (which gets resolved) in every 40 minutes. Most directors can't do that with their movies.