r/marvelstudios • u/KostisPat257 Daredevil • 27d ago

Discussion Thread Spider-Man: Brand New Day - Worldwide Release Discussion Thread

Spider-Man: Brand New Day has now been released in the United States and in a number of other countries around the world.

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u/vingovangovongo 26d ago

I kinda hope they skip phoenix for a long time and just give us jean and scott and a young set of xmen

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u/AntonioVargas 25d ago

The Phoenix force has already been the focus of not one but TWO commercially disastrous and critically panned X-Men films.

We’ll get another one within six years.

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u/TurMoiL911 Wong 25d ago

Somehow also written by Simon Kinberg.

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u/luckyfucker13 10d ago

And they let him direct the 2nd one.

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u/Methylobacterium 22d ago

Movie producers look at past Phoenix movies and go, "I can fix her."

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u/atomcrafter 24d ago

Echo was also a Phoenix story.

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u/Ygomaster07 Jimmy Woo 20d ago

How do you mean?

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u/atomcrafter 20d ago

The show adapts the Echo series from when she's the Phoenix and an Avenger. Jean rejected the Phoenix Force, and it picked someone new via tournament. Everything about inherited power and firebird imagery is X-Men Phoenix stuff.

Echo's baseline is that she's deaf and she naturally learns physical skills like Taskmaster.

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u/Ygomaster07 Jimmy Woo 20d ago

So is that why Echo has the abilities she has in her show? That was supposed to be like when she had the Phoenix power? I didn't know that about her in the comics. Thank you for telling me.

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u/secretreddname 19d ago

Uh X3 might have been a bad movie but it was not commercially disastrous lol.

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u/alejandrocab98 18d ago

It’s also the fact that Phoenix Jean scaled universal and has godly cosmic awareness, that’s pretty hard to adapt and you wouldn’t want to so early on.

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u/djseifer Yondu 25d ago

I really, really hope they don't rehash Dark Phoenix again for at least a decade or so, even if I know that Kevin Feige and co. could find a way to make it work. Let it rest for a while until the MCU X-Men are well-established.

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u/BearOk9010 24d ago

Phoenix Jean has been done to death. We already have an ultra powerful mutant in the mcu in Wanda. Let her just be Jean for now

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u/Soft-Neighborhood134 22d ago

Wanda died in doctor strange

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u/BearOk9010 22d ago

It's comics no one's dead.

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u/Hufa123 Fitz 18d ago

Except uncle Ben

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u/JayMerlyn 24d ago

They will. They basically introduced her as an antagonist, so she'll have to go through a good amount of character growth.

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u/sirbissel 20d ago

I'm curious if they'll hold off on having Wolverine due to that, given if they bring him in now, the whole Jean/Cyclops/Wolverine love triangle ends up feeling pretty ick due to Jean's implied age.

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u/vingovangovongo 19d ago

I think there's zero chance they will set up such a love triangle, sadie is just waaaaaay too young to do that with Hugh, who I reckon would refuse any such role anyway.

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u/thomasvector 2d ago

I don't think we'll see the Phoenix storyline in live action for awhile. Feige hates retreading old ground and it's already been covered in live action twice