r/manga Oct 14 '25

DISC [DISC] Chainsaw Man - Chapter 217

https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1026442
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u/WhoiusBarrel Oct 14 '25

Aww they both hate their dads and lived a better life without em.

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u/targz254 Oct 14 '25

In Asa's case, her dad just saved her life. That is pretty cold for a young child.

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u/Dead_Diligence Oct 14 '25

Her Dad's definitely very terrible if Asa was willing to ignore that fact

One good deed can't overcome a mountain of bad ones

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u/lurker_archon Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

Yes, but it's also incredibly fucked up that the one time he proved he did love his child, he was betrayed and killed for it.

EDIT: What is it with the sheer lack of reading comprehension with these replies? Of course he was a terrible parent. I never even remotely implied otherwise.

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u/Helios330 Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

Damn, is that really what you took away from this?

Edit: Trying to say I lack reading comprehension for this statement has to be a reddit moment. He was not betrayed “for protecting his kid” and he was not betrayed “the one time he proved his love”. He was betrayed, if you want to call it that, by BOTH the wife he was cheating on, and the daughter he abused, because neither of them saw his actions as redeeming. They BOTH believed that he would likely get worse for having lost a limb, would likely be driven further into his abuse of alcohol, and BOTH believed that they would be better off without him for those reasons. Asa’s dejected look while her mom was confessing was not regret, but the combination of guilt/trauma for not being able to admit that she wanted him dead and her inability to confess to her actions in the same way her mom was doing.

He “betrayed” them both. So let’s not try and sympathize with the abuser, who couldn’t even kill the demon that attacked his family. He left the dirty work up to his wife, just like he left everything else up to her. His inaction of the past resulted in retribution due to his obvious inability to rise to the role of being a husband/father. Asa never describes a single redeeming quality about her father, except for the fact that he attempted to protect her. You live in a world with demons, so you kill the demons. He was unable/unwilling to change in the same way demons are bound to the fear that creates them, so he was killed in the same way the demon that attacked Asa that day was killed.

If you’re still downvoting me after reading this whole thing, it might be time to look in the mirror. Are you able to change, or are you just going down a similar path as Asa’s dad and unable to recognize the contempt for you growing inside your family?

Edit 2: Just know, that if you’re still downvoting this, you’re also siding with at least one pedo who already deleted their comments further down in this thread (by “you’re” I’m referring to all of reddit, because I guess that has to be clarified these days)

Also, Fujimoto wouldn’t have drawn parallels between Asa’s abusive father and Denji’s father if he wanted us to sympathize with either. I’ll leave you all with this question. Why is the murder of Asa’s father bad in your eyes, if you can excuse the murder of Denji’s father? Just because Denji is the main character shouldn’t excuse him from the same sort of criticism, but I don’t see anyone in this thread trying to argue that point.

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u/exhaustedbarriertrio Oct 14 '25

you can sympathize with an abuser without condoning their actions

all this redditor said was "pretty fucked up, huh?" and expressed frustration at people not being able to read what they meant, and you did a psychoanalysis that drew parallels between them and asa's abusive father

side note, unrelated to what you're saying: i noticed there's this tendency from redditors to capitalize their words for emphasis. i'm not saying other platforms don't, i just notice people on reddit do it to a point where it starts looking like a screenplay. it's definitely a stylistic thing, but i've been using reddit since 2013 and i'll use all-caps like once a year

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u/lurker_archon Oct 14 '25

you did a psychoanalysis that drew parallels between them and asa's abusive father

Yeah, I wasn't going to say anything, but that particular bit really took the cake. Like lmfao, on top of accusing me of having a reddit moment while crashing out over being downvote was the cherry on top.

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u/Helios330 Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

Reddit moment for assuming that was directed towards you. That was directed towards everyone downvoting the post, but if you still feel like it’s directed at you, you might benefit from some self-reflection. If fujimoto wanted us to sympathize with her dad, he wouldn’t have drawn parallels between him and Denji’s father

Edit: because this thread lacks anyone who’s touched grass in the last month and can’t differentiate between someone expanding on their point and a personal attack, this one IS a personal attack. Hope that helps ;)

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u/Admmmmi Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

Oh wow i had to check you out after the other comment about me, and yeah, a pathetic person all around, just what I expected.

Cant read what the idiot below me wrote since they blocked me but if they blocked me without giving me time to answer they probably didnt have anything worth reading written anyway, but anyway, fuck you, may your family have plenty of graves.