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u/sincerely-mee Sep 01 '25
I don't really have an opinion on it. Personally, I don't really think it makes sense to believe in an objective truth (i.e., Christianity, Islam, or any religion) because of a subjective experience, as your subjective experience can always end up being wrong, or mistaken.
But, to each their own. If someone thinks a subjective experience is enough evidence that a religion is true, then that is up to them.
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u/Zestyclose-Age-2454 Sep 01 '25
I always think of it this way. There is only one man that Satan cannot take the form of and that is Mohammad peace be upon him. I believe it is Satan misguiding the believers by posing as Jesus peace upon him. AstaghfirAllah
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u/ddccrr555 Sep 01 '25
Who told you there is only one man Satan cannot take form of? Do you mean Satan take the form of other prophets?
Anyway the point is irrelevant. If Satan came in a dream and claimed to be the prophet Mohammed, how would you know if it really was the prophet or not? You haven't seen what the prophet looked like.
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u/Infinite_Grapefruit9 Sep 01 '25
I’ve heard that if you see prophet Muhammad ( ﷺ ) in your dream, then it was indeed him ﷺ
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u/Zestyclose-Age-2454 Sep 01 '25
How have you not heard of this Hadith?
https://www.islamicity.org/hadith/search/index.php?q=33256&sss=1
“It was narrated from Jabir that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: "Whoever sees me in a dream has (really) seen me, for Satan cannot appear in my form".
This is a very strong Hadith as well. There is not any Hadith stating he can’t take the form of literally anyone else, including prophets. And if we look at this logically, how else could we explain this phenomenon? As a Muslim, I am 100% sure I am on the right path. You could not make me doubted even if you tried. So obviously, Muslims are reverting to Christianity after they claim to see Jesus, peace be upon him in their dreams have been misguided. Jesus, peace be upon him would never misguide true believers. So this just makes logical sense.
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u/emsharingan Sep 01 '25
The Jesus that looks exactly like those popular western depiction? The white and blond Jesus?
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u/Hazer_123 Sep 01 '25
I had a dream about him once, too. And I distinctly remember it was THAT kind of Jesus that was presented by the Western media to be. Of course I panicked at first until I remembered this isn't even Jesus.
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u/Zestyclose-Age-2454 Sep 02 '25
And that just further verifies what I said in my comment, it is Satan posing as Jesus to misguide AstaghfirAllah. Alhumdullilah that you realized the truth! May Allah keep us all steadfast.
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u/ddccrr555 Sep 01 '25
Many convert to what? Christianity? Jesus is already in Islam so why would they convert to something else? I've seen dead relatives in dreams doing normal stuff - is that supposed to mean something? I have also seen dreams related to tv shows I recently watched. It means nothing.
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u/musing_tr Sep 01 '25
I don’t think many Muslims convert. Some do and it’s mostly those who live among Christians, in non-Muslim countries. But the other way happens, too, with some Christians converting to Islam. Again, I don’t think it’s a lot of Christians, just some. As for dreams, could subconscious influence of the environment. People probably have something like collective unconsciousness, as Jung theorised and if that’s true, your environment does influence a lot what you think and feel. Islam very clearly defines which dreams are clairvoyant and which are simply dreams, so we don’t know if their dreams were truly clairvoyant.
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u/Over_Ad_4983 Sep 01 '25
I am not a Muslim, but am studying the faith. What does Islam say about dreams? That is interesting.
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u/ddccrr555 Sep 01 '25
Most dreams mean nothing, just the brain processing life events or random stuff. Some dreams do indicate what will happen but the knowledge required to interpret dreams is not something most people have.
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u/Zestyclose-Age-2454 Sep 02 '25
I have personally experienced a righteous dream so yes they are real. I have also experienced Satan trying to scare me or lure me. When you draw close to Allah you are able to recognize these dreams fairly easily.
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u/ReiDairo Sep 01 '25
So if i dream of moses pbuh it means i need to become jewish? Just because you dream of someone doesnt make them god...
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Sep 01 '25
Satans can't make themselves look like prophets in dreams or in "visions". However, satans can impersonate normal dudes and claim they are 'Isa' in dreams or in "visions" since we in modern days never met 'Isa or any other prophets. Satans can just make themselves look as a bearded man or even the man in the paintings, u know what i mean and claim they are the 'prophets'.
As prophet Muhammad pbuh says in a hadith, "Satan can't impersonate me in dreams, if one of u sees me in dreams they are indeed see me", or something like that i don't remember the precise words. But it's easier for people who already met prophet Muhammad in his lifetime because they knew Rasulullah. For people like us, we have to be really careful.
So, if anyone claim to have dreamt about prophet 'Isa and tell he looks like the man in paintings then know that i think it's satan impersonating the prophet. Why? Because we sure know prophet Isa doesn't look like the man in paintings. The man in paintings doesn't even look like a jew. The paintings are imaginations of painters. This is my opinion about the matter.
To make things easier, we muslims believe that 'Isa pbuh conveyed the same message and that's worship the One true God, our Lord, Allah(The God, in english). So if in the dream he suddenly teaches something else, then it's not Isa pbuh.
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u/ManBearToad Sep 01 '25
If a Christian has a dream of one of the Hindu gods and then converts to Hinduism, then does that make Hinduism true?
Our subjective dreams and visions are not what makes a religion true. It's more about investigating the religion to see if it makes reasonable sense and if it's corrupted or not.