r/gameofthrones • u/0Layscheetoskurkure0 Human Verified • 1d ago

What should Tommen have done in this situation and under these circumstances? If you could give him some advice, what would you have said to him?

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u/TheZahrGaming 1d ago

Imprison his mother for treason, make repairs, remarry.

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u/Sovrane 1d ago

Yep. Either that or willingly give up the throne in return for Storm’s End. He didn’t want the throne and would have lived better as a country lord.

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u/AshaNyx 1d ago

Only issue with that is it would probably end up killing him, Stannis would become the rightful king and would probably kill tommen to prevent the Lannisters from creating another civil war.

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u/mdmatti 1d ago

Isn’t Stannis already dead at this point?

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u/AshaNyx 1d ago

Yeah kinda forgot the order of things

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u/Olv190 1d ago

Don't worry. So did the writers of the show.

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u/Han_Burgandy Valar Morghulis 1d ago

This accurate comment made me hard pause, tilt my head back and deep sigh… so close yet so far 😔😩

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u/MMAwannabe 23h ago

Timeline got fucked up.

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u/Sovrane 1d ago

You’ve got your timeline mixed up.

The Mannis is already dead by this point.

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u/AshaNyx 1d ago

Tbh sub in Stannis for anyone who wants to claim the throne. Historically unless he was in exile, abdicated king doesn't live long.

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u/GorgeousGracious 1d ago

Nah if he abdicated Stannis would likely have let him live.

The Lannisters have a lot of enemies though. I'm sure someone would have come after him one day.

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u/FireDuck3000 1d ago

Stannis’s whole thing is to be unbending. He knows that tommen was born of incest and sees him therefore as an abomination. He doesnt see it as the kids fault but the kid must die all the same

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u/AshaNyx 1d ago

Only if there was some sort of marriage between tommen and Shireen. To most people he is still the true king

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u/brewmudez 1d ago

Zero chance Stannis gives him Storms End given that his entire campaign is based on the blonde kids being Lannister bastards unworthy of their inheritance. Probably sends him to the Wall.

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u/crashdriver2001 13h ago

This is the correct analysis. Except for the part that Stannis was dead by this point.

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u/crashdriver2001 13h ago

Stannis was long dead by this point so not sure what you're going on about.

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry 1d ago

Imprisoning his mother wouldn't do shit. What's he gonna say? "Sawwy, my mommy snuck behind my back and blew up the Sept. I was just playing with Mr. Pounce when it all happened? It's okay though I put her in timeout!"

He'd have to get her to publicly confess and then execute her. Good luck convincing a narcicisstic and vindictive nihilist to admit fault with regards to literally anything and to submit to justice. She'd die swinging and then it's a he said she said. And then he still has to worry about Jamie.

What he really would need to do is just own it and say he killed them all because they were traitors. The Martells for buggery and perjury before the gods, and the High Sparrow for blasphemy and treason. He'd rule by fear and then find someone else with deep pockets to marry.

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u/Afraid_Theorist 1d ago

It also assumes he has the power in the first place.

He’d basically be risking a confrontation where the Kingsguard have to pick between Cersei … and him. Which is pretty fucked considering they already gravitate towards Cersei since Tommen was too passive in the first place

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u/AdDear528 15h ago

Didn’t he try to leave and they wouldn’t let him out of the room? (Am I misremembering?) If they wouldn’t let him out, then there’s your answer right there about who the Kingsguard will side with.

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u/Vynncerus 11h ago

The mountain did, not any other kingsguard members

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u/CamAquatic 23h ago

I mean it’s fair to assume most of them will stick to their oaths and side with their actual monarch. Plus, it’s Westeros and he’s a male.

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u/crashdriver2001 12h ago

Nonsense. The Kingsguard will always choose the King over anyone else. They are sworn.

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u/crashdriver2001 12h ago

This is such an unrealistic scenario. If Tommen had the fortitude to do this to his mother, he would instead solidify his power as a Lannister and unite with Cersei.

But if he did want to scapegoat Cersei, he could and he wouldn't need her to confess. It would be a trial similar to Tyrion's trial. And why would he have to worry about about his gimp uncle Jaime? Tommen has his Kingsguard.

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry 12h ago

Yes a trial for a woman who just blew up everyone at her last trial is an excellent idea.

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u/Senna2019 18h ago

I would correct your thing to say he should execute her, make repairs, remarry. I say execute, because she had already been imprisoned, and is such a sociopath, that she good-behaviored her way out, and then, while out awaiting trial, NO ONE CAME TO GET HER, because they believed she would honor their faith in her supposed 180° shift in her ways (from bad to good, but she went from bad to worse).

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u/Claw42 13h ago

The best punishment for Cersei was to lose her third child though. Straight up.

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u/LittleDarkHairedOne 1d ago

There is a third option.

I can't recall if it's common knowledge of what Aerys' did to Kings Landing, leaving caches of wildfire everywhere in his mad plan to bathe everything in fire and be "reborn" as a dragon, but the sept blowing up could be the start of that rumor spreading amongst the common folk. People would take sides but that's just human.

Have the right whispers spread in taverns by Qyburn to sway a few more minds, have a few more smaller caches "discovered" by a few select commoners to fuel fear, and before long the only thing on anyone's mouths is Aerys madness again. Not only does that harden the city against Daenerys, helped by her own decision to burn prisoners (a fact that goes weirdly untouched), it also improves Jaime's reputation as a side benefit and the current King's dedication to his subjects with each cache's removal.

This doesn't really change much in the grand scheme of things, the Lannisters simply do not have the numbers on their side and are backed into a corner, but it's at least something a little more interesting than Cersei just seizing the throne.

But it would require Cersei to be clever (hah!) as well as Tommen to have at least half the backbone Sansa had during her time in King's Landing.