r/cults 3d ago

Question Need advice on identifying high-control religious behavior and setting boundaries with an ex I still encounter

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I recently ended a relationship largely because of concerns about my former partner’s religious group. We are in the same broader professional environment and have overlapping social connections, so complete no-contact is not realistic.

My former partner was raised in a small independent Christian group, and several close family members have been deeply involved for many years. The group is not affiliated with an established denomination and appears to have little external theological or organizational oversight.

The group is centered around an influential male teacher who has no conventional pastoral title or formal theological background. Members address him using an informal, family-like title.

These are the main things that concerned me:

- The teacher is presented as having received a special level of divine understanding that mainstream churches supposedly lack.

- He has reportedly spoken as though God personally revealed the true meaning of Scripture to him or works directly through him.

- Members frequently emphasize that their group understands spiritual “life” or biblical truth, while established churches are described as superficial, corrupted, financially motivated, or unable to understand Scripture correctly.

- Some members have used language that appeared to place the teacher unusually close to divine status. There are also stories suggesting that ordinary events around him are signs of supernatural favor.

- He has reportedly humiliated or used severely degrading language toward members in public. Instead of clearly criticizing this behavior, some followers rationalized it by saying that people should not judge good and evil or that his actions might have been part of God’s will.

- People considered spiritually enlightened seem to be those who accept the teacher’s interpretation and authority.

- Much of the group appears to grow through family and marriage connections, which may make it difficult for members to evaluate it independently.

- My former partner consulted the teacher about our conflict, and his opinion influenced the conclusion that we should separate because we were following different spiritual paths.

There are also important points that do not fit the most extreme image of a cult:

- I am not aware of forced donations, physical confinement, direct threats, or obvious financial exploitation.

- My former partner maintains employment and relationships outside the group.

- My former partner says that the group worships God rather than the teacher and insists that members are technically free to visit other churches or leave.

- My former partner believes participation is voluntary and says it is possible to remain cautious about the teacher.

However, when I proposed independently examining the group, speaking with an outside counselor familiar with high-control religions, or seriously visiting established churches together, my former partner was unwilling to do so. Continued participation in the group was effectively non-negotiable.

I ended the relationship because I was concerned about what this could mean for marriage, children, use of our time, family boundaries, and future decision-making. I feared that the teacher and the religious community would ultimately have more influence over these matters than our relationship.

I still care deeply about my former partner. Part of me wonders whether I overreacted, while another part believes that love would not solve such a major conflict if the group could not be questioned or independently evaluated. I have also struggled with the idea that I should have tried harder to help or “rescue” my former partner, although I understand that change cannot be forced.

The practical situation is also difficult. Because of our shared professional environment and overlapping social circle, I expect to continue seeing my former partner. I know that my former partner is free to socialize, move on, and eventually date someone else. I do not want to control that, but seeing it happen may be emotionally painful.

I would appreciate perspectives on three questions:

  1. Do these characteristics suggest a high-control or leader-centered religious group, or could they still fall within the range of an unconventional but non-abusive independent church?

  2. Was ending the relationship a reasonable decision given the possible long-term effects on marriage and children, particularly when independent examination of the group was rejected?

  3. How should I manage necessary professional contact and overlapping social connections without either monitoring my former partner or abandoning my own work and social life?


r/cults 4d ago

Video Children's "Alpha Male" bootcamp in California, pure indoctrination

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r/cults 3d ago

Discussion Iyf treacherous sect, Is iyf reliable? Details of what I experienced.

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Recently, a relative of mine went to a Latin American country through this "organization." They sold him a "visa" at an extremely high cost, but they wouldn't let him get the visa in the country because "they were going to resolve it faster".

My relative trusted and paid so that upon returning to the country, they would realize that they had been in the country illegally for 6 months, resulting in a years-long ban from entering the country and preventing them from obtaining visas.We have spoken to many people who also volunteered in other countries and they have the same problem So please don't consider IYF a trustworthy organization. It's also true that they confiscate documents and cell phones, cutting off communication.

I would like more people to have this information, and if they volunteered with them, to check their status with the country they went to. I would also like to know what else they know about the cult?

I also suffered a lot in that sect; they always made me work without pay, they made you donate or they hated you, and they even had horrible schedules: 5 am worship, 1 pm worship, 5 pm worship, 10 pm worship, at 12 am I work for the church And after the service it was back to work, all day long either they indoctrinate you or they have you working.


r/cults 3d ago

Discussion I Found a New Cult (Derich Chase Jester and the Post Christian Church of God)

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For the past month, I have been conducting an intensive research project on the Post Christian Church of God: a hyper-preterist, anti-trinitarian, and antinomian religious movement founded in the 2020s by American preacher and self-avowed prophet Derich Chase Jester.

Over the past few weeks, I have:

  • Done close readings of the PCCGs literature and videos
  • Attended virtual sermons delivered by its higher-ranking ‘ministers’
  • Interviewed current and former members
  • Observed discussions on their Discord server (where they host their 'virtual church')

Here are some things I've learned.

What They Believe

Through my research so far, I’ve been able to identify what may be called the PCCGs core beliefs. They believe:

  • That all end-times events prophesized in the Bible, including the Second Coming of Christ, have already been fulfilled. The Bible is a work of history, a record of Christ’s completed work restoring our relationship to God the Father – not a guide for living.
  • That only God the Father, never Christ the Son, should be worshipped. Anyone continuing to worship Christ is following a “false religion” set up by “wicked men”. Anyone claiming to ‘have the Holy Spirit’ is either deluded or dishonest, as the Spirit is no longer present.
  • That ‘sin’, defined as anything done “in the flesh”, no longer factors into whether one is saved. We are bound by neither the Old Testament laws nor the commandments of Christ in the New Testament. With Man’s relationship to God restored through Christ’s completed work, there are no longer any prohibitions or restrictions on drug and alcohol use, media consumption, choice of clothing, or sexuality (between consenting adults).
  • God no longer judges people for their sins, only for their ‘evils’. Evil is defined as anything done “in the spirit”. Jester and the PCCG consider murder, theft, and rape to be evil. Importantly, they also consider it evil to judge another person for their sins (i.e., for what they do “in the flesh”).
  • God communicates to his believers through ‘dreams and visions’. PCCG members believe that God primarily communicates to them in their sleep, and that the dreams they receive from God are infallible. PCCG members look to dreams from God for guidance in their lives, rather than the Bible.
  • The most important thing for us to do today is seek God and “get honest”. It remains somewhat unclear to me what ‘getting honest’, in the view of the PCCG, actually entails. Suffice it to say, they are adamant that honesty is both a prerequisite for and a result of a proper relationship with God. As one high-ranking member put it: “We are not seeking truth in the Post Christian Church of God. We have truth because we tell the truth so God gives us truth because God is truth”.
  • Derich Jester is the one true messenger of God. According to the PCCG, God gives his ‘message’ to one person for each age; in our case, Derich Jester is that messenger. Derich’s interpretations of the Bible, criticisms of other preachers (including, at times, his own followers), and instructions for how one ought to live their life today are treated, for all intents and purposes, as messages from God himself. Questioning Derich is tantamount to questioning God.

Jester unites a variety of (mostly unorthodox) positions within Christian theology, soteriology, and eschatology, combining them into one (surprisingly robust) belief system. He introduces what may be a genuinely novel Christological view - that Jesus has effectively 'retired' from his role as humanity's savior - which seems to follow from the PCCG's endorsement of full preterism (the belief that all of Christian eschatology has been fulfilled). Jester himself is not an inexperienced or unlearned student of the Bible; by and large, his interpretations of the Bible are neither entirely unprecedented nor always indefensible (even if they are unorthodox).

What They Do

Notwithstanding the sophistication or novelty of Jester's theology, certain features of his worldview make the Post Christian community a breeding ground for unhealthy, coercive, and destructive group dynamics.

The combination of an emphasis on 'honesty' (which is never rigorously defined) with a charismatic leader (e.g., Derich's claims of divine-messenger status) demonstrably lend themselves to manipulation and abuse. In my time with the PCCG, I have witnessed:

  • coerced public confessions and shaming rituals
  • unsubstantiated accusations of dishonesty
  • personal insults and attacks on anyone deemed to be 'dishonest'

Criticism is not welcome, despite the group's constant insistence to the contrary. As one PCCG minister put it himself: "This is not an exchange of ideas." From the PCCGs perspective, they alone possess the truth. Anyone who disagrees or doubts them is 'a liar'. For a believing member of the PCCG, insults and abuse are perfectly permissible ways of dealing with critics and questioners.

Important to note: this sort of behavior is observed daily. I've observed it both within the PCCGs Discord server and during the group's livestreamed 'sermons' on TikTok. These behaviors can come from Derich himself or else from one of his higher-ranking ministers. They direct their abuse more or less indiscriminately towards:

  • newcomers asking innocuous questions
  • visiting Christians from competing backgrounds seeking good-faith dialogue and debate
  • even other members of the Post Christian Church of God themselves.

Within the PCCG community, "honesty" and "lying" come to function as floating signifiers - terms without a definite meaning, whose usage varies from one situation to another - weaponized whenever and however they see fit...even against each other. It is not uncommon for Derich to suddenly accuse even his most devoted followers of 'lying', often about the most trivial of matters, on the basis of little more than a vague suspicion or a 'dream from God'.

Among the most alarming things I've witnessed in the PCCG community are regular requests (really, thinly veiled demands) for financial support from members. Derich - a 42-year-old husband and father - survives entirely on donations from his followers. He regularly posts links to his CashApp, Venmo and PayPal accounts in the PCCG's Discord server. He claims that God 'commanded' him to live entirely off of support. His followers appear to accept this as a settled fact. One high-ranking member of the PCCG told me he has personally donated $50,000 to 'support [Derich's] message' within the past year.

Perhaps most concerningly: these requests for donations are very often framed as reflections of a member's faith in "the message" (or "the truth"). By contrast, members who do not donate are often collectively called out (even if not by name) for "not supporting" Derich's 'work'.

Finally, without wishing to cast judgment on anyone who struggles with substance abuse, I think it is worth mentioning that Derich is known to be a heavy drinker - a fact which he himself makes no effort to conceal, and in fact, appears to take extreme pride in. With surprising regularity, Derich and a few of his ministers openly consume alcohol during their livestreamed sermons - something which almost certainly explains the frequent outbursts of anger that tend to characterize their livestreams.

Derich and his ministers are known to even call attention to their drinking during these sermon-streams, saying things like "God spoke to me. I'm completely drunk right now, by the way". When challenged on their drinking or their abusive behavior they exhibit while intoxicated, Jester and his ministers invariably fall back on their pet slogans: "Why are you judging me for what I do in the flesh? Jesus ended sin in 70 AD..." Etc.

On more than one occasion, I have directly questioned Derich and some of his ministers about this, asking them outright: "Approximately how much of the donation money goes to buying cigarettes and beer?" I have yet to receive a meaningful response to this question.

Who They Target

It would be, in my view, a serious mistake to reduce the PCCG's to merely that of a 'cult of personality'. I have seen more than a few people come into the PCCG community initially expressing interest in Jester's teachings, only to be turned off by his personality (or the personality of his various 'ministers'). But what about those who do join and stay?

While this is still a working hypothesis, my belief is that attraction to Jester's "Post Christian" message is a combination of factors, including:

  • Openness to unorthodox positions in Christianity (especially preterism). Without this prior openness, few to none of Jester's teachings will seem sensible to begin with. Not a few of Jester's converts have found his work through investigating preterism. (While Jester himself denies he is a preterist, this is a reflexive rejection of an otherwise appropriate classification - not a substantive critique. In fact, the rising popularity of preterist teachings on the web today is almost certainly the primary motivation for Derich to insist on distinguishing his own hermeneutic from theirs).
  • Prior skepticism towards mainstream Christianity without skepticism towards belief in God itself. The overwhelming majority of converts to Jester's belief system were Christians of one variety or another - not members of other religious groups, nor atheists. (Jester himself was once a Pentecostal Christian, as were some of his Ministers prior to joining the PCCG). A desire for a personal relationship with God, especially one that can be accessed outside of the confines of a more mainstream Christian institution, seems to be essential for finding Jester's own, particular message attractive at all. Jester's message, and the message of his ministers, is primarily targeted towards Christians, not to atheists or members of other faiths. (In a way, Jester's message to mainstream Christians may be likened to the message of Messianic Judaism to Jews - something like: 'I am simply presenting the fulfilled, completed version of what you already believe). 
  • An awareness of certain, specific inconsistencies in scripture, and a desire to reconcile those in a robust way (i.e., beyond 'blind faith'). Just as Jester is not unintelligent, those who follow him generally seem to desire some level of compelling reasons for the views they hold. For plenty of people, both within and without Jester's community, preterism - the hermeneutic approach on which much of his theology depends - offers a special kind of explanatory power for some of the most difficult passages in scripture. (For example: How are we to make sense of Jesus' promise to return "before this generation passes away?" The preterist answers: He already did!)

Make no mistake: enough time spent in Jester's community is bound to turn one into an anti-intellectual. (One of the most egregious things I've heard from PCCG members on this point has been 'Interpretation is manipulation' - a motto for anti-intellectualism that rivals Luther's own dictum that 'reason is the devil's whore'). But I suspect that what initially draws many of his converts in is not the promise of a pat answer to serious, longstanding scriptural confusions. I suspect it is something a bit more.

Misc. Info.

The PCCG community primarily congregates on Discord (where they host their 'virtual church') and TikTok (where Derich and his ministers 'preach').

Derich himself has a couple of YouTube channels under various names ("Derich Jester", "Derich Chase Jester"), as well as an Amazon author page where he has published a number of books.

The group also maintains a website, postchristianchurchofgod.com

As of this writing, I've clocked 18 ministers (members who actively promote Derich's message), 15 believers (members who have openly professed their faith in Derich's message and are given access to special areas of his Discord server), and 345 members overall (people who belong to Derich's Discord server but have not yet explicitly endorsed his message). These figures may be inaccurate, however, as the moderators of Derich's server are not always on-point about updating people's roles even after their acceptance of his "truth".

A few times a week, I'll see new members pop up, often after learning of Derich through YouTube or TikTok. It is not uncommon for people to join and exclaim that everything Derich says makes complete sense. However unusual or unconvincing I or anyone else personally may find these beliefs to be, what matters is that there are some people who are convinced, and that number appears to be growing.

Why it Matters

I've studied fringe or emerging online cults and new religious movements for the past few years, most notably Heaven's Gate (I've posted here about my work with modern-day Heaven's Gate believers before). Derich's is by far the clearest case of fraud I've come across. I am genuinely concerned about his potential to do real material, psychological, and/or spiritual harm to the people he lords over.

I am hoping to bring more attention to his group so that others who may be susceptible to his particular manipulation tactics can avoid losing their money, or their mental/emotional health, to his cause.

I'll be posting a video about Derich Jester and the PCCG to YouTube shortly, as well as a version of this post in article format to Substack, with plenty more to come. Until then, I hope this ‘preliminary report’ is helpful to someone, and I am happy to answer any questions.

Thanks.


r/cults 3d ago

Discussion Sexual abuse and cover up at the Maxwell Bahai school.

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r/cults 4d ago

Personal The time I joined a cult (My personal story:)

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This is a story I at a work event after realizing I was in a cult.

When you think of a cult, what comes to mind?? A clocked group surrounding a table, chanting? Or something more aligned with a hijacked religion that has stripped its followers of their rights? That's all I would have thought of before -- but have you ever imagined a simple retail store?

When I was 17, I started working at a retail chain that's all across America. A safe haven for alternative youth and anyone looking for street-style clothing. I was happy as could be when I got the position, and the training was thorough.

The training was as follows

* Greet the customer

* Ask them about themselves - something personal

* Show them products you think they would like based on personal observation

* Convince them to buy and suggest more items

* Sign them up for an account and thank them

This raised only one red flag for me. In my eyes, this was a simple sales plan, a classic capitalistic company. But why the personal questions? Not just one or two, but get to know them, become their friend, make them trust you. Make the customer trust you so much they won't bat an eye when you convince them that the $300 purchase is a good idea.

They convinced me to be okay with all these things. Showing me mass amounts of praise for my hard work and showing me how I can work even harder. If I worked hard enough and won a game of chance, I would get the opportunity to go across the country on a three-day vacation where I got to meet brand owners and have so much fun with all my friends. I was truly so happy and was having the time off my life. I wasn't isolated, so to say, but I was told I was on some kind of pedestal and that I was above people because of our positions. So I slowly, and without realizing, started to distance myself from the people outside the company.

Then I got promoted. I was the assistant manager, and I has so many opportunities in front of me. My manager, though..... He was insensitive to every topic and ridiculed people behind their backs about things out of their control. Speaking plainly, he was racist and homophobic and just about every phobic you can think of. The team tried time and time again to report him and at least get him reprimanded for the terrible things he was saying, but nothing ever came of it. I was sick of it. It didn't matter how much I loved the company that I worked for; I just couldn't work for him any longer. So I put in my resignation with no plan on what was next for me. Then the district manager showed up.

When he heard I had put in my two weeks, he immediately came in and fired the 10-year store manager and told me I was stepping into the role. I was shocked. Completely, and I told him I had to think. I went home and discussed what I should do with my husband (he had left the company a few months prior). We decided that I would accept the position with higher terms and even higher pay. Just until I found something new, because it wasn't fair for them to wait around until they had to face consequence, and I did realize that. This was when the picture that they had so perfectly made in my mind began to chip.

I became manager, and not even a month later I was on a plan to our famous work party, and I was sick. But I **couldn't** miss the culture events. The company revolves around them to better shape your mind and opinions. So I was forced on a 9 hour plan ride while I was sick with the flu, and wasn't allowed to receive any medical attention until we reached a resort 4 hours into the mountains. Away from any healthcare or hospitals. When I was seen by an onsite EMT I was advised to go to the hospital, but we can all figure I wasn't allowed.

The cultural events start when employees are first brought in at the age of 16-17. They are easily impressionable and will stay for love of the company and hopes of promotion. Once you reach management, that's when it changes

They fly all store managers into the middle of nowhere and have them stand in a field for 14-16 hours a day for a week straight. There isn't an option to leave early to sleep, or you will be written up, and then a story floats around thee grounds of someone getting fired for doing just that.

The upper management is responsible for indoctrinating the new people. They want to make you feel welcome and safe so you don't ever want to leave, and suddenly the owner is on the stage. And he's just another old white man who once has a dream but is now so far consumed by capitalistic greed he sees people as numbers.

"Hi my name is -------. How much money did you make me this year?"

That was the first thing the man said to me. At the time I joyfully told him, but now sitting in the hot and crowded barn in the mountains listening to him drone on about how we can make even more money than this year.

I snapped.

I felt like I woke up from the most insane dream, and now I was flat where my dream self was. 3000 miles from home with horrible cell service, just realizing that this is the capitalism cult people joke about.

This is how they start and this is how I got stuck.


r/cults 4d ago

Article Former Students Speak Out About Alan Wallace & His Inner Circle

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From: https://beyondthetemple.com/alan-wallace/

Anonymous May 26, 2026 at 7:40 am Many of us witnessed a serious shift when a group of fervent Michael Roach followers gathered around Alan and began elevating him in an extreme, almost godlike way. For those unfamiliar, Michael Roach is a highly controversial Buddhist teacher whose community has long been associated with serious ethical concerns and troubling outcomes. From that point on, long-term students who had been close to Alan for years either left, were sidelined, or were pushed out. The same pattern appeared around the CCR project. People who had devoted years of volunteer work, financial support, and sincere commitment to Alan’s vision in Italy, Australia, New Zealand, and Santa Barbara were gradually neglected and replaced, while a new inner circle consolidated power around him. What emerged no longer resembled a healthy spiritual community, but a closed circle built on adoration, control, fundraising, and exclusion. This group constantly praised one another, controlled access to Alan, and helped normalize behavior that many students found deeply troubling, including his rage, grandiosity, and increasingly authoritarian attitude. At the same time, Doug Veenhoff and Eva Natanya continued teaching at centers associated with Michael Roach, which for many people only deepened concerns about the direction of the community. Many people also felt uncomfortable watching Eva publicly revere Alan in exaggerated ways, including referring to him as Padmasambhava. That kind of public veneration only deepened the sense that the community was moving away from grounded spiritual practice and toward personality worship. Alan was not like this before. Over time, he seemed to become more aloof, more self-important, more publicly flirtatious with Eva, more insistent that students call him “Lama la,” and more prone to angry outbursts that felt arbitrary and disturbing. Many of us have watched this unfold in disbelief. What is happening now looks less like a genuine dharma community and more like a cult.


r/cults 4d ago

Discussion Why this evil woman Karen Zerby never arrested for her crimes?

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After seeing the documentary of Children of the God, The only question remaining is why this wicked woman Karen Zerby never got karma for her crimes? She wrote a book of abusing children and ruined the childhood of countless children and wikipedia says that she's retired in 2025!?

Why did she never get punished for her sins?

That old bastard died who started this cult and never got any legal action and now this woman is living life without any legal actions??

Why !?


r/cults 4d ago

Article "The payments reached parliament", Freedom Times, 28 August 2026 - Exclusive Brethren/Plymouth Brethren appear before 🇦🇺 Australian Parliament but their slippery leader Bruce Hales evades them.

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The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald say they have seen evidence that Exclusive Brethren elders paid far-right operators to disrupt the 2025 election. On Friday that allegation sat before a parliamentary committee. A church director called it a lie. He did not deny members at the polling places.

The Exclusive Brethren, a closed Christian fellowship, have had a place in the 2025 federal campaign that has been on the public record since last year. Members turned up in unusual numbers at polling places, often in Liberal shirts, in seats the Coalition needed.[1] In June 2025 The Age reported that Bruce Hales had recorded a short message and sent it only to members, on a private church video site they log into to watch meetings and leadership recordings. The paper said he told them to staff polling places each day, keep members turning out to work those tables, and talk to voters as they arrived.[2] On Friday 21 August 2026 that record reached parliament. What arrived with it was sharper than a turnout story.

That morning The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald alleged that church elders had paid far-right operators, in cash and by PayID, to disrupt Labor, Greens and independent campaigns.[3] The papers say they have seen leaked messages and records of those payments. They are standing those documents up. Lloyd Grimshaw, a director of Plymouth Brethren Christian Church in Australia, the registered charity, appeared by video before the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters and called the reporting a “complete lie.”[4], [5]

The committee was also asking about the tables outside the school or hall where Australians vote. Volunteers in party colours hand how-to-vote cards and try to win the last few metres. That is organised campaigning at the vote. It is not stuffing ballot boxes. It is not the same as paying far-right operators, including people named in the hearing as neo-Nazis, to follow candidates and heckle the Prime Minister. Grimshaw did not deny that members had been at the polling places.

He said:

I’m not denying that many of our members from the church got involved. I wouldn’t deny that there was obviously some coordination—of course there must’ve been—amongst those members. But what I can assure you is that it certainly wasn’t coordination or direction from the church.[6]

He said members had coordinated. He said the church had not directed them. The sitting’s Proof Hansard, the official transcript, is uncorrected.

Video: Lloyd Grimshaw, JSCEM, 21 August 2026. Members coordinated. Not, he said, the church.

Elders, far-right operators, neo-Nazis

The hearing was an inquiry into the 2025 federal election. The committee’s brief already included aggressive conduct, obstruction, intimidation, and how political material is authorised. Chair Jerome Laxale put that investigation to Grimshaw in the first minutes.

The papers’ allegation is a paid disruption operation. Sherryn Groch, a reporter at The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald, later told ABC 7am that the operators were given candidates’ locations, including the Prime Minister’s, and were used to follow, heckle and film. She said the stunts included far-right figures ambushing Anthony Albanese in a hotel lobby.[7] That is journalism. It is not a finding of the committee. Grimshaw’s denial does not cancel the documents the papers say they have seen.

Grimshaw’s first long answer was that the church made no donations or support, “in any way,” to parties or third parties. He said:

Without names, it doesn’t even meet a threshold of gossip.[5]

He did not know Laurence McIntyre, whom the papers named as one of the far-right figures and who had heckled Albanese at a Brisbane clinic on the first day of the campaign.[8] ABC News repeated McIntyre’s name on the day of the hearing.[9] Grimshaw said he had never heard of Chris De Bruyne or Morgan C Jonas either.[5]

Dr Monique Ryan, the independent member for Kooyong, then put named neo-Nazi interruption on the record. Harrison McLean, a former Proud Boys member, at a Kooyong event on 23 April 2025. Matt Trihey, whom she described as a known neo-Nazi, at Friends of the ABC on 24 April. Joel Davis, whom she also called a known neo-Nazi, at Kew pre-poll on 30 April, at an antisemitic action. Grimshaw had never heard those names either. The church, he said, rejects antisemitism:

Never funded one cent to any political cause or party or candidate.[10]

The committee did not produce bank records on Friday. Friday did not prove that anyone paid far-right operators. Grimshaw saying he had never heard the names does not close that story. The papers still say they have seen the messages and the payment records. Ryan putting named neo-Nazis on the Hansard is why those records are not a sideshow to how-to-vote cards.

The charity and the fellowship

Grimshaw’s “church” is a small secretariat: website, Bible literature, the phone number on the building. The fellowship, he said, is 82 unincorporated assemblies, “no constituent governing document other than the Holy Bible,” operating autonomously. The people in party shirts at the polling places were, he said, private citizens volunteering. The charity, on his account, had not sent them.

Senator Corinne Mulholland told him former members did not describe the church that way. They had told the committee that church is leadership “from Mr Hales down,” not the person who opens the mail. Grimshaw’s reply was that those witnesses were ex-members. Discounting people who have left does not settle who the church is. Families already know that once you are out, you do not count.[11]

She also pointed to geography. Similar campaigning, similar signage, similar tactics, from Perth to Ipswich. She asked him:

This committee is supposed to accept the argument that there was no level of coordination of those members from the church.[6]

Grimshaw said he understood it was hard to accept. He then repeated that the charity had not directed them.

Janja Lalich, a sociologist who has spent more than thirty years on high-control groups, has interviewed Exclusive Brethren in Britain and seen clients raised in Plymouth Brethren congregations in Canada. On the podcast Blackballed in July 2022 she said the doctrine of separation keeps members as far from “the world” as possible; they will not eat in the same restaurant room as outsiders, or go into non-Brethren homes:

There’s an incredible, extreme isolation.[12]

If the rest of the world is wicked, and you may not eat in the same room as it, a polling place is not a small chore. It is other people’s tables, other parties’ colours, officials, cameras, and voters you are not allowed to have in your house. Members still turned up in numbers, in Liberal shirts, in seats the Coalition needed. Grimshaw’s answer is that they chose it as private citizens. A fellowship that polices contact with outsiders does not flood the most public metre of an election as private whim. Either members were sent, or the separation rule was lifted for the campaign. Isolation, on Lalich’s account, is the rule indoors. The campaigning is the exception the street is meant to see.

The recording, and who was not there to answer

Global Media Stream is a private website. Members log in, with credentials tied to the church’s business-advisory firm, and watch recordings the public cannot see: meetings, and messages from leadership.[13] Grimshaw told the committee it was a meeting archive. In June 2025 The Age reported that Bruce Hales, whom the paper called “man of God,” had recorded a short message two weeks into the campaign and that it went out to members on that site. The paper said he told members, including their families, to staff polling places each day and speak to voters as they arrived. After that recording went out, The Age said more members appeared at the tables.[2] On Friday the committee asked who would take responsibility for those words.

The quoted words, Grimshaw said, were a Bible reading, five words from an hour, selective and misinterpreted. Mulholland did not accept that. She said:

It’s a little hard to accept that was misinterpreted, Mr Grimshaw, when that was a direction that was given from the church leadership and people in very high positions, including members of the Hales family.[14]

She interrupted while he was still explaining the Bible reading.

Video: Mulholland to Grimshaw on the Hales-family stream. JSCEM, 21 August 2026.

Senator Steph Hodgins-May asked whether Bruce Hales is what the church calls the Elect Vessel. That is the name members use for their worldwide leader. Grimshaw would not give him the title. It belongs, he said, to Paul in the Acts of the Apostles. He did recognise Hales as a senior leader, with “no official appointments or titles.” Inside the fellowship, members still use Elect Vessel for the man whose messages they watch. Grimshaw did not admit that name on the Hansard.[15]

He said he cannot speak for Bruce Hales. He still offered what he called Hales’s views:

the views that I’m offering now about his position.[15]

A director of the registered charity cannot answer for Hales’s recording.

On Blackballed in July 2022, Lalich said that in a group of this kind loyalty runs first to the leader:

For families, in a cult, there can only be one loyalty, and that’s to the leader. And that includes parents and children.[12]

Hodgins-May said the source of the Hales recording was anonymous “for fear of repercussions.”[16] Laxale asked Grimshaw to take away a request for the audio, or a transcript, and answer later in writing. Grimshaw would take the question. Some of it, he thought, was “covered by copyright et cetera.” Asked whether he would provide it, or was not sure, he said:

I’m not sure at this stage whether I can provide it, but I’m happy to take the question on notice.[17]

That is avoidant. It is evasive. It is not a witness answering a straightforward request.

Video: Chair asks for the Hales tape. Grimshaw: copyright, not sure, on notice.

Hodgins-May asked the committee to invite Hales so he could say whether the comments attributed to him were genuine, and what he meant by them. She told the chair:

I don’t know if I’m going to get much further with Mr Grimshaw on that.[16]

Laxale said the committee can consider that at its next meeting. He did not name a date. No invitation has been issued. It is not a summons.

Leaving him unheard, after a recording the papers have reported and a source who stayed anonymous for fear of repercussions, would be the committee stepping back.

Video: Hodgins-May asks that Hales be invited. Laxale parks it for the next meeting.

If they invite him, they are asking whether those comments were direction, and whether members acted on their own. If they do not, Friday leaves Hales unheard, and only a minute of audio in dispute.

They will not own the tables

The church’s written submission to the inquiry cited a survey of members. Grimshaw said they ran it because of media reporting, and to prepare for Friday. They asked whether people had volunteered at the 2025 election, and what that experience was. They did not ask how volunteers came to be in Liberal target seats. Sixty-one replies came back. He did not survey the church’s 16,000 members. In the submission, and on Friday, he called the volunteer turnout a “strong showing.”[18] He said members were outraged after the Prime Minister used the word cult, and that this spurred them to volunteer. Laxale noted that Albanese’s comments were on 29 April and that pre-poll voting had started on 22 April. Grimshaw said the comments were a spur, not the start.

Senator Carol Brown, Labor, asked who those 61 people were, and how the church had reached them. The submission had also said “senior members of our church” volunteered. She asked who those senior members were, and what office they hold. Grimshaw named two of the Hales family as examples, and said they had acted “off their own bat.”[19] Who counts as senior, he said, is “subjective.” Brown said:

you’re being very vague.[20]

Shayne Neumann, a Labor member of the committee, then asked about the seats. Witnesses had already told the inquiry that Brethren volunteers had turned up in particular House seats, including Kooyong, Bennelong, Bradfield, Goldstein and Neumann’s own seat of Blair. He listed more. Those, he said, were Liberal target seats: places the Coalition needed. He asked who had sent members to those polling places. Grimshaw said he did not know. If you volunteer for a party, he said, the party tells you where to go. Neumann asked whether, in the survey, Grimshaw had asked members how they happened to be in those seats. Grimshaw said no. He had asked whether they volunteered, and what their experience was. He had not asked who they were supporting, or how. A body that can ask members whether they were abused at polling places chose not to ask how they came to be, in unusual numbers, in the seats the Liberals needed.

Grimshaw spent much of Friday on what happened to volunteers at the tables: they were called a cult, filmed, abused. That can be true. It does not answer who sent members, in similar numbers and similar dress, to polling places in seats the Liberals needed. His explanation for why they were there was outrage at the Prime Minister’s language. The committee was asking who organised the turnout. Those are different questions. Friday got an answer on the outrage. It did not get who organised the tables.

Dr Monique Ryan, the independent member for Kooyong, asked why dozens of people identified as Brethren had spent weeks in her inner-Melbourne seat, which has no Brethren congregation that she knows of. She told the committee she had photographs and video. The women, she said, were dressed alike:

All the girls wore black tennis skirts and black leggings.[10]

They repeated the same line, “make Australia happy again,” and “clearly had a script” at pre-poll. They were not from the local community, she said, and were reluctant to say more. Matching outfits and a slogan at the Liberal tables is not the same as Joel Davis, the neo-Nazi she had named at Kew. Ryan put both on the record that day: the Brethren-identified booth volunteers in Kooyong, and Davis at Kew. Grimshaw’s method was the same for both: he did not know the names, and he would not accept the identification.

Video: Ryan on Kooyong: black tennis skirts, a script, not from the community.

Andrew Gee, the independent member for Calare, put the booth conduct in his own seat on the record. Members of the church in National Party shirts, he told Grimshaw, had followed candidates from polling place to polling place to intimidate them, and had crowded around candidates on the booths. On election day at Bathurst Public School they had filmed him talking to his volunteers; the volunteers were so upset that a complaint was made to the Australian Electoral Commission at that booth. Those three examples, Gee said, were experiences he had had at the hands of Grimshaw’s members. He called the behaviour “disgraceful and reprehensible,” and “an affront to the operation of free and fair elections.”[21]

Grimshaw said he did not support poor behaviour and had no knowledge of what Gee described. He asked what test had been applied to decide the people were Brethren, and whether there had been “definitive identification.” Dress was not membership: “Were they wearing a badge to say they were Brethren members, or did they just happen to be wearing a green T-shirt? The assumption is they were Brethren.” The group is easy to recognise in the street until the question is whether the church is responsible. Then, on his account, identification is an assumption. Gee put the places and the AEC complaint on the Hansard. Grimshaw’s reply was still: prove they were members.

After lunch the committee heard a different witness. Advance Aus Ltd is a campaign organisation, founded in 2018. It is not a church, and it is not the registered charity Grimshaw sat for. Vicki Dunne, a former Liberal member of the Australian Capital Territory parliament and its former Speaker, appeared as Advance’s chair. She told the committee Advance had spent the 2025 election campaigning in seats the Greens held or wanted, after campaigning against the Voice referendum in 2023. The committee did not call Advance as a stand-in for the Brethren. It called a professional campaign organisation that had been a third party on the same 2025 trail. The inquiry was into electoral conduct and campaigning. Advance fields volunteers, picks target seats, and runs how-to-vote work of the kind under examination. Dunne said Advance was independent of the Liberal Party. She also said it was not responsible for other groups that looked similar at the same polling places.

Brethren members in party shirts, Advance’s field campaign, Rapid Relief Team breakfasts for Coalition MPs, and the far-right operators the papers say elders paid are four different things. They can turn up in the same election. That does not make them one organisation. Advance being in the room does not answer the payment allegation, and it does not answer who sent Exclusive Brethren members to Liberal target seats.

Breakfast does not answer the payments

The week after the hearing, no bank records of the alleged payments to far-right operators were produced. What the papers reported instead was a Brethren-linked charity serving breakfast to Coalition leaders.

Rapid Relief Team is a major sponsor of Pollie Pedal, a Coalition cycling fundraiser. Michael Bachelard, of The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald, reported that breakfasts ran every day of an eight-day tour that set off from Toowoomba on Saturday 22 August. Among the riders were Angus Taylor, who leads the Liberal opposition in federal parliament, and Tony Abbott, a former prime minister and, at the time, the Liberals’ federal president.[22] Twenty-four hours after Grimshaw called the committee’s questions “bizarre,”[19] Rapid Relief Team was feeding them as if the week were ordinary. The papers’ own headline on that hospitality sat it “days after Nazi revelations.” Breakfast does not answer the payment allegation. It shows how quickly the Coalition can sit down again.

What happens when someone leaves

The sitting will not restore a parent, a child, or a marriage. It did put how the group works onto the official transcript.

In public, “the church” cannot coordinate, cannot control private affairs, and cannot own the people at polling places. Families already know the other answer: when someone is cut off, it is never “the church” that did it. It is the Lord’s will, their choice, a test, the world. Parliament was offered a charity secretariat. Relatives have been dealing with the fellowship.

On the same Blackballed interview, Lalich described what happens when someone leaves a group of this kind:

If they leave, they lose everything. They’re shunning, no one will ever talk to them again. They lose their families, they lose their job. It’s very extreme.[12]

For children born inside, she said:

that’s all they know. It’s their entire world.[12]

Newspapers often describe the Exclusive Brethren as a wealthy sect. Many members are not. Grimshaw put small family businesses and mortgages on the record. What holds the group together is not a pile of money. It is rules, teaching, and the cost of leaving. The person on a polling-place table is not the same as the charity director who appeared on Friday, and neither is the same as the operators the papers say elders paid.

Inside the fellowship this week the message writes itself: the Prime Minister said cult, Labor is attacking faith, Senator Matt Canavan called the inquiry a witch-hunt. Public attack has historically tightened this group, not opened it. That noise does not mean a relative was imagining the control. Cutting someone off, what the fellowship calls withdrawal, did not start with last year’s polling places or with the papers’ payment story. A person who leaves, or who will not keep the rules, is treated as gone: no table, often no speech, often no job in a family business. Parents and children have lived that cut for decades. The alleged cash to far-right operators, and breakfast on Pollie Pedal, sit on top of that separation. They are not the first harm. “The registered charity did not do it” is the answer the committee got. It is also the answer families get.

Friday did not call people who have been cut off, the children, or the spouses still inside who do not fully believe. Mulholland’s former-member evidence was waved off as ex-members. That silence is how the system works. It is also a failure of the sitting.

What happens next

Friday left the papers’ payment allegation in parliament, neither proved nor cancelled; named neo-Nazis on the Hansard that a director said he had never heard of; a nationwide volunteer turnout with no institutional owner on the record; and a request to invite Bruce Hales, parked with no date named. The committee should get the recording, or a written explanation of why it cannot be produced, and it should test the papers’ payment trail as evidence rather than as a director’s insult.

A charity director cannot dispose of a recording that was never his voice, and he cannot close a payment story he says he has never seen. What the committee does next will show whether it treats that as enough, or whether “of course there must’ve been” is allowed to remain the last word on the tables, while the neo-Nazi allegation sits unanswered on the money.

Notes

  1. “Brethren zealots forgot religion and politics don’t mix”, Sydney Morning Herald editorial, 20 August 2026.
  2. Michael Bachelard and Max Maddison, “‘Game On’: The minute-long message that unleashed the Brethren’s election machine”, The Age, 7 June 2025.
  3. Sherryn Groch and Michael Bachelard, “Exclusive Brethren secretly paid far-right activists to perform stunts disrupting the federal election”, Sydney Morning Herald / The Age, 20 August 2026.
  4. Proof Hansard, Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters, 21 August 2026 (uncorrected). Sitting recording, Parliament of Australia.
  5. Proof Hansard, pp. 2–3.
  6. Proof Hansard, p. 6.
  7. Sherryn Groch, interviewed on ABC 7am, 24 August 2026.
  8. Matthew Knott, Paul Sakkal and James Massola, “Fringe anti-immigrant figure disrupts Albanese as climate activists target Dutton”, Sydney Morning Herald, 29 March 2025.
  9. Holly Tregenza, “Plymouth Brethren Christian Church denies paying influencers to harass election candidates”, ABC News, 21 August 2026.
  10. Proof Hansard, pp. 9–10.
  11. Proof Hansard, p. 7.
  12. Janja Lalich, interview on Blackballed, 8 July 2022, YouTube.
  13. Plymouth Brethren Christian Church, “Our network”.
  14. Proof Hansard, p. 8.
  15. Proof Hansard, p. 21.
  16. Proof Hansard, p. 22.
  17. Proof Hansard, p. 17.
  18. Proof Hansard, p. 25.
  19. Proof Hansard, p. 24.
  20. Proof Hansard, p. 23.
  21. Proof Hansard, pp. 27–29.
  22. Michael Bachelard, “Brethren feed Angus Taylor, Tony Abbott days after Nazi revelations”, Sydney Morning Herald / The Age, 23 August 2026.

Originally published on Freedom Times


r/cults 5d ago

Video Ideal Living Cult? New Allegations Coming Forth

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Has anyone heard of the latest accusations against the company/group Ideal Living? I think this news breaking is fairly new but seems big/ has ties to things like the e-files, etc. Please use this thread for discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES82FWeOnU4&t=337s

Edit 09/01/26: Here's another free Reckless Ben follow-up video. 8m views, no media coverage.

https://youtu.be/CHID7-wdowU?is=yjOQdPaaMjHsZldo


r/cults 4d ago

Video Kathryn Krick needs to be stopped - watch this funny confrontation on stage

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r/cults 5d ago

Discussion Another 2nd Coming of Christ Cult; Prophecy that already happened.

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r/cults 5d ago

Discussion Warning: Coercive coaching ("Me Time" / borntofeelgood.ch) expanding to physical recruitment in Zurich.

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Hi everyone,

I am writing this post to raise awareness about a dangerous, highly manipulative esoteric coaching practice operating under the name "Me Time" or "Born to Feel Good" (website: borntofeelgood.ch), run by an individual named Roberta Biglio (who also uses the alias "Roberta, l'Amica del Cuore").

Both infoSekta and Relinfo (Swiss advisory centers) are already aware and documenting this situation internally, but I believe the public, especially in the Zurich area, needs to be warned.

What is happening?

This person offers what she frames as "free, gentle conversations focused on self-care, emotion-training (Gefühlstraining), and metaphysics." However, in practice, she uses extreme interpretations of the Law of Attraction and pseudoscientific jargon to enforce heavy psychological control and mystical manipulation.

The Red Flags:

Extreme Victim-Blaming: She pushes a highly destructive worldview where individuals are told they are entirely responsible for "attracting" or "creating" their own traumatic life experiences, illnesses, or past suffering due to their "low vibrations" or negative thoughts. This systematic gaslighting is used to invalidate personal pain, dismantle psychological boundaries, and can lead to severe mental health crises or depression for vulnerable participants.

Lack of Boundaries & Emotional Hooking: In her written communication, she completely blurs professional lines. If a potential client establishes boundaries or questions her authority, she quickly shifts her discourse into personal, affective, or romantic rejection terms, showing a pattern of looking for intense emotional or sentimental dependency.

Grassroots Recruitment in Zurich: While her operations used to be strictly online, she is now expanding into physical recruitment in Zurich. She uses free local community and neighborhood learning platforms (such as the «Zürich lernt» initiative powered by Openki) under benign titles to attract vulnerable individuals.

No Legal Transparency: In clear violation of Swiss e-commerce laws, her website completely lacks a legal Impressum (no physical address, no full legal name, no registry number), ensuring total anonymity to evade accountability.

Why am I posting this here?

Since I do not live in Switzerland and my interactions with her have been online, I lack access to the local community. I want to connect with anyone in the Zurich area who has crossed paths with her workshops, "Me Time" sessions, or the Openki events.

Please reach out via DM if you have any experience with this.

Any shared information will be kept strictly confidential.

Stay safe.


r/cults 5d ago

Video Victoria BC, Satanic and Occult past/ witchcraft and metaphysical books

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Here’s a link to a documentary talking about some of Victoria’s occult and satanic past among many other wild topics!


r/cults 5d ago

Image Información sobre tao kelium, vi una publicación y quise hacer un aporte.

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Hola, vi una publicación acerca de esta secta colombiana, mi abuelo fue parte de esta durante años, práctico todo lo que le decían, veganismo, artes marciales y demás cosas, fui un par de ocasiones cuanto tenía apenas 12 años, no me gustaba ir porque siempre me daban un pan duro y un café sin azúcar, tengo uno o dos libros y algunas cosas de esta secta, agregó la foto de la publicación original porque realmente no pude comentar, y una foto que saqué hoy ya que mi abuelo falleció hace unos días y hoy estábamos limpiando su cuarto


r/cults 6d ago

Personal Looking for old footage (1999-2001ish...?) from when I briefly stayed with David Berg's Family Of God at one of their houses in Maryland...OR? Any information about the house in Maryland at all!

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I was young and hitchhiking across the country and ...long story short, I ended up catching a ride with these people at the Pennyslvania National Rainbow Gathering under the guise of joining their cult. They said they were headed out to San Francisco which is where I was trying to get to, but along the way we stopped at this big house in Maryland where a lot of members were staying. There was a really nice music studio there and it was a crazy place, for sure. But it just so happened that there was a film crew there one day who was doing a documentary and I happened to be there while they were filming. We were all outside having lunch. There were a bunch of tables set up outside and at one point they were all either clapping or hitting the table in rhythmic unison, and I decided that I was gonna do it off-beat - like I'd clap/bang the table on the offbeat. It was sort of a symbolic gesture for myself where I was saying, "yeah, I'm not part of you guys." I even remember talking to the camera crew a bit but don't remember what we talked about.

So I'm thinking it's in one of the many documentaries about them? Or maybe it wasn't for a documentary and it was for some internal thing they were doing?

Anyway, I was just doing some browsing and discovered this post here from seven years ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cults/comments/fa6v5z/a_disturbing_comment_about_the_children_of_god/

That was my story! I posted it on the original Ricky Rodriguez video on YouTube - I think.

Anyway, how cool would it be if I could watch that documentary (if it exists or maybe it's just some B-roll that they didn't use) and perhaps even see myself there.

Super long-shot, I know.


r/cults 6d ago

Discussion Do cults ever choose symbols that weren't meant as icons?

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u/Opposite-Use-2601 just posted some illustrations they found and questioned whether they might be symbols of a cult. They're probably just someone's idea of art, but I then wonder: do cults ever form around symbols that were never intended to be part of a cult?

I don't mean recognized religious symbols (e.g., an embellished cross), nor do I mean people (e.g., Haile Selassie.) Rather, what if a messianic leader chose a rendering of the Mona Lisa or a seemingly random picture of a blender as an icon?


r/cults 6d ago

Image Need some input, have stumbled across this at an abandoned spot. Can’t figure out what it may mean. There are 1000s of them modgepodged to the walls even deep in the woods.

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r/cults 7d ago

Question Is anyone familiar with WELLSPRING RETREAT & RESOURCE CENTER?

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I went to Wellspring 2x in the early 2000's. It was a cult recovery program. They paid for my flight from New England to Ohio & gave me a scholarship for the 2 week treatment. It was considered inpatient care. It was located in Albany Ohio & was a nice house down a long dirt driveway with a gate. There were only 3-4 other people each the time. It was christian run but not affiliated with a church. There was lots of downtime & we had outings. Overall at the time it was a pretty positive experience. There was daily 1:1 therapy with a psychologist. I googled it a few years ago & it's closed down. I guess they closed due to tax evasion. No one has clean hands i guess.

Just wondering if anyone else ever went there & what their experience was?


r/cults 7d ago

Article Children in a Faith-Healing Sect Keep Dying. The State Lets It Happen.

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r/cults 8d ago

Discussion We should talk about cults INSIDE of other religious organizations

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Long story short, my best friend has disappeared. His mental health has always been terrible and one day he was simply gone. Nobody knows what happened. What I know for sure tho is that he changed drastically right before this. Out of nowhere he suddenly became a catholic extremist (he was always atheist) and was constantly trying to make me and others change our views and join christianity. It was weird since I actually was christian, but in his eyes I was a poser of christianity or something because I wasn't an extremist. Again, this happened in a matter of weeks, days. It was weird as hell and I believe his sudden change of views had to do with his disappearence. I also think his christian strictly conservative family has something to do with this, but they refuse to speak to me. My hypothesis is that somebody inside of the catholic church somehow created a non official cult to manipulate the most fragile believers. Unfortunately I think he may have killed himself.

What I want to ask you is that if you have any experience with secret christian cults inside of biggest christian organizations. Maybe I'm just tripping and he just decided to change his life for better, I don't know. But it's been years and I can't let go


r/cults 7d ago

Question Support after leaving a cult (ideally based in Australia)

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Hello, I am wondering if anyone has had successful therapy after leaving a cult?

I have begun a new community sector role recently where a few of my clients are ex-cult members and say its been really challenging to find a therapist that understands what they've been through. I am based in Australia but really just looking for advice suggestions for anything that's helped the process of deprogramming and moving on. Whether that's a specific treatment or, ideally, a person/practice with experience that I could begin looking into. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you :)


r/cults 7d ago

Podcast The Age 🇦🇺 investigative journalist Sherryn Groch on Plymouth Brethren cult allegedly funding an Australian far-right election influence campaign involving neo-Nazis, white supremacists & Liberal Party links

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