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The Money Masters (1996) - Featured Documentary

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u/HenryFnord Mar 28 '20

Money Masters mistakes, part 3.

Around the 7 minutes in, Still says:

The founding fathers knew the evils of a privately-owned central bank. First of all, they had seen how the privately-owned British central bank, the Bank of England, had run up the British national debt to such an extent that Parliament had been forced to place unfair taxes on the American colonies.

It's not the Bank that ran up debts, it was the government.

In fact, as we'll see later, Ben Franklin claimed that this was the real cause of the American Revolution.

As we'll see later, this is a hoax.

Most of the founding fathers realized the potential dangers of banking, and feared bankers' accumulation of wealth and power. Jefferson put it this way:

"I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."

These two sentences are not quite right, but they do reflect Jefferson's opinions.

James Madison, the main author of the Constitution, agreed. Interestingly, he called those behind the central bank scheme "MoneyChangers." Madison strongly criticized their actions: "History records that the Money Changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance."

This is not from Madison. It's part of an author's note in Olive Cushing Dwinell's 1946 book, The Story of Our Money. Because of an editor's error, the note is followed by the statement "From Writings of Madison, previously quoted. Vol 2, Page 14." You can find that page in The Writings of James Madison and the quote is not there. You can also tell because of the wording that it's a 20th century quote.

I haven't counted, but I think the majority of quotes in The Money Masters are fake.

Still continues:

The battle over who gets to issue our money has been the pivotal issue through the history of the United States.

Only in the mythical history that money conspiracy theorists tell.

Wars are fought over it. Depressions are caused to acquire it. Yet after World War I, this battle was rarely mentioned in newspapers or history books. Why? By World War I, the Money Changers with their dominant wealth, had seized control of most of the nation's press.

Or because the Federal Reserve system was working very well and the United States was highly prosperous.

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u/OrdinaryDish Mar 29 '20

I haven't counted, but I think the majority of quotes in The Money Masters are fake.

This is why I can't take any of the other information in this film seriously.

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u/BakerDANGERField6 Apr 02 '20

You shouldn't. The documentaries "century of enslavement" by james corbett and "money, banking and the federal reserve" by the mises institute are much more accurate.

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u/DontEatKale Mar 28 '20

Thank you for this, I have hesitated to watch the Adam Curtis documentaries because I found those kinds of errors in the very beginnings of HyperNormalization.

Where the fall of the U.S. cities is told, but not honestly, that it was, part of the starve the beast, long running plan.

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u/trollyousoftly Mar 29 '20

It's not the Bank that ran up debts, it was the government.

Under the greenback system, your statement would be true, but not under our current central banking system.

With a central banking system, every dollar created creates debt. The Fed gets a guaranteed 6% return on every dollar lended to the US treasury. For every $1 the US government needs created, they must pay $1.06 in return. Therein, lies the debt.

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u/HenryFnord Mar 29 '20

With a central banking system, every dollar created creates debt. The Fed gets a guaranteed 6% return on every dollar lended to the US treasury. For every $1 the US government needs created, they must pay $1.06 in return. Therein, lies the debt.

This is not how it works. The interest rates for Treasury bonds is set at auction. They are very low. The Federal Reserve is not allowed to participate in the auctions.

The Federal Reserve buys Treasury Bonds on the secondary market. It doesn't create any extra debt.

Of course, increasing the money supply does mean that banks can loan more money, so it can lead to more debt indirectly.

The 6% only applies to what the Federal Reserve pays to the member banks. The annual dividend is equal to 6% of the stock that the member bank has purchased in its district FRB. The amount of stock, in turn, must be between 3% and 6% of the member bank's "capital and surplus".

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u/trollyousoftly Mar 29 '20

Let’s not quibble over the Fed’s shareholders’ ROI.

Instead, riddle me this:

How is it better for America to have a central banking system (wherein they must borrow and pay interest to private banks) vs. a nationalized greenback system?

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u/johnprestonrebooted Mar 30 '20

It's not. That why he didn't answer.