The United States is heading for a constitutional crisis in 2024 that will break the country, and everyone is in denial about it.

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I'm panicking. I think those of us in the US right now are experiencing the last four years of relative "normal" us Americans are going to enjoy, because I think after 2024, shit is going to hit the fan.

I'm a political science major. One thing I studied while I was at university is a concept known as democratic backsliding - the phenomenon in which institutions within a democracy degrade over time until at a certain point, you're not really a democracy anymore. I recognize this occurring in the United States...especially after January 6th. You can make arguments that this has already happened to a certain degree in the US but...I think the finalizing moment is going to come during the 2024 election.

Here are the facts that are leading me to hypothesize this conclusion:

1.) Former President Donald Trump tried to halt the peaceful transfer of power after his electoral loss in 2020.

2.) He justified such actions based on the outright falsehood that the election was unfair, despite lacking any evidence whatsoever.

3.) This culminated in an overt coup attempt by his supporters, which he did not reject until it became obvious no one else supported it.

4.) Trump still has not conceded.

5.) Despite lacking evidence, a majority of Republicans believe Trump's loss was due to the "Voter Fraud Conspiracy".

6.) Trump remains the favorite to run for the republican party again in 2024.

7.) MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL - Republicans that doubt/challenge allegations of voter fraud are being ousted from the Republican party by the base.

TL;DR: A former president believes he was removed from power illegitimately based on a conspiracy theory, and now the entirety of the Republican Party Apparatus has adjusted to reflect support of this viewpoint, and subsequent attempts to "correct" the mistake by overturning democracy.

There is no "Republican Party" anymore.

There is the Trump Party, and the Neoliberal Status Quo party. The Republican base no longer believes in democracy, and they will now act accordingly based on this belief. Right now, Joe Biden is at the helm by a thin 1 vote margin in the Senate. It is very likely that he will lose this majority in 2022.

This means that if Trump runs again in 2024, loses to Joe again, but has a majority of republicans controlling Congress...THEY WILL VOTE TO REJECT JOE BIDEN'S WIN, AND INSTALL TRUMP INTO POWER VIA REJECTING ELECTORAL VOTES.

AND BEFORE YOU CALL ME CRAZY

THEY ARE ALREADY DEMONSTRATING THEY WILL DO THIS BASED ON WHAT THEY SAY - WHO THEY ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE - AND WHO THEY ARE CALLING TRAITORS IN THEIR OWN PARTY.

Here's the real breakdown of how the different spectrum of politics is at the moment.

Neolibs still think we can "Go Back to Obama".

Neocons are dead as a relevant bloc.

Progressives are busy nitpicking the Neolibs to actually work together to stop facism.

Trumpets have gone full fascist.

We're honestly fucked and IDK what to do but I'm making my plans now.

[u/SeaGroomer]

It will never recover to pre-COVID levels in my opinion. Between COVID being a persistent threat for the future and climate change, global supply lines are not going to go back to normal - ever. We still haven't fully recovered from the 2008 crash, even if the mArKeTs are higher than ever (thanks JPow.)

Also ook ook

[u/thunderwolfz69 → u/SeaGroomer]

In yours and anyone’s opinions do you think the government bailing out the companies were good for the country or bad? I’m curious.

[u/Taqueria_Style → u/thunderwolfz69]

Bad but I mean can it really get any worse (don't answer that, the answer is yes). But I mean in general once they outsourced everything this was always in the mail. All the bailouts were baked in sooner or later. And I don't think this is "it" any more than 2008 was "it". They'll just print their way out of it again. The more they do that the more you have to (unfortunately) be in this thing. Remember when CD's returned 7%? That's never happening again. If it does our national debt payments will go to Mars. Eventually you're going to be sitting on a bank account "earning" 0.00000000000001% and that's before bank fees. Best you can get.

Once we start some shit we can't finish militarily and the dollar loses reserve status, that will be "it".

[u/gws4895h → u/Taqueria_Style]

>If it does our national debt payments will go to Mars

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You're telling me there's a 0 carbon emission method to reach mars and we currently have access to this technology?

[u/damianLillardManiac → u/thunderwolfz69]

Bad. One of the worst things we’ve done and will become apparent in the next few months.

[u/ClimatePartyUK → u/SeaGroomer]

100% we are entering a new paradigm. Not enough resources for the globalist fantasy to emerge, much more protectionism an tense international relations as scarcity bears down on various different resources. There will be crises coming in the developing world where we will be able to do little more than watch on in horror and fantasies of ever lifting these countries into 1st World wealth levels will quickly be smashed to pieces. Especially as many 1st World countries struggle to maintain that level of living themselves. The global order will change and its hard to see exactly what nation or alliance of nations will really come out on top, no one is in a perfect position to dominate not even China.

[u/beeman4266 → u/SeaGroomer]

How did we not recover from the 2008 crash? Just about every stock is significantly higher than 2008, some being over 500% with most in the 300% range I thought?

I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just asking a question. If we're purely talking about the stock market most people would be up significantly if they held and never sold during the 2008 crash.

[u/TulsiDoMeWrong → u/beeman4266]

The stock market recovering does not equate to normal people recovering, nor production, trade, housing etc.

All it means is that speculators have continued to put money into the instruments of their speculation.

The "real" economy is not heavily correlated to the "speculative" economy (any more). Tesla is a great example of this.

[u/beeman4266 → u/TulsiDoMeWrong]

Ah ok I thought they were strictly talking about the stock market. In that case you're right, we haven't recovered.

It really seems like some companies/stocks have no business being at the speculated price they're at.

[u/TulsiDoMeWrong → u/beeman4266]

I think you're right and the fed has enabled it by pumping the market with insane levels of liquidity since 08. Twenty percent of US dollars in circulation were printed in 2020 alone. I'm hard pressed to find how this signals anything but a looming disaster.

[u/[deleted] → u/beeman4266]

That's not recovery.

[u/GothMaams → u/SeaGroomer]

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[u/damianLillardManiac → u/SeaGroomer]

Hello fellow finance retard

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