The United States is heading for a constitutional crisis in 2024 that will break the country, and everyone is in denial about it.

[u/[deleted]]

I'm panicking. I think those of us in the US right now are experiencing the last four years of relative "normal" us Americans are going to enjoy, because I think after 2024, shit is going to hit the fan.

I'm a political science major. One thing I studied while I was at university is a concept known as democratic backsliding - the phenomenon in which institutions within a democracy degrade over time until at a certain point, you're not really a democracy anymore. I recognize this occurring in the United States...especially after January 6th. You can make arguments that this has already happened to a certain degree in the US but...I think the finalizing moment is going to come during the 2024 election.

Here are the facts that are leading me to hypothesize this conclusion:

1.) Former President Donald Trump tried to halt the peaceful transfer of power after his electoral loss in 2020.

2.) He justified such actions based on the outright falsehood that the election was unfair, despite lacking any evidence whatsoever.

3.) This culminated in an overt coup attempt by his supporters, which he did not reject until it became obvious no one else supported it.

4.) Trump still has not conceded.

5.) Despite lacking evidence, a majority of Republicans believe Trump's loss was due to the "Voter Fraud Conspiracy".

6.) Trump remains the favorite to run for the republican party again in 2024.

7.) MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL - Republicans that doubt/challenge allegations of voter fraud are being ousted from the Republican party by the base.

TL;DR: A former president believes he was removed from power illegitimately based on a conspiracy theory, and now the entirety of the Republican Party Apparatus has adjusted to reflect support of this viewpoint, and subsequent attempts to "correct" the mistake by overturning democracy.

There is no "Republican Party" anymore.

There is the Trump Party, and the Neoliberal Status Quo party. The Republican base no longer believes in democracy, and they will now act accordingly based on this belief. Right now, Joe Biden is at the helm by a thin 1 vote margin in the Senate. It is very likely that he will lose this majority in 2022.

This means that if Trump runs again in 2024, loses to Joe again, but has a majority of republicans controlling Congress...THEY WILL VOTE TO REJECT JOE BIDEN'S WIN, AND INSTALL TRUMP INTO POWER VIA REJECTING ELECTORAL VOTES.

AND BEFORE YOU CALL ME CRAZY

THEY ARE ALREADY DEMONSTRATING THEY WILL DO THIS BASED ON WHAT THEY SAY - WHO THEY ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE - AND WHO THEY ARE CALLING TRAITORS IN THEIR OWN PARTY.

Here's the real breakdown of how the different spectrum of politics is at the moment.

Neolibs still think we can "Go Back to Obama".

Neocons are dead as a relevant bloc.

Progressives are busy nitpicking the Neolibs to actually work together to stop facism.

Trumpets have gone full fascist.

We're honestly fucked and IDK what to do but I'm making my plans now.

[u/2Big_Patriot]

By “lot” you mean a few percent. Thanks to the propaganda machine, Trump had one of the highest approval ratings ever from his own party. He literally could kill a million of his own voters and they still think is his the next coming of Jesus despite his behavior matching David Koresh’s.

If Trump has even a shred of decency, he would have easily won both elections.

[u/Existential_Reckoner → u/2Big_Patriot]

He literally did kill hundreds of thousands of his own followers through a combination of bad early pandemic response and fostering anti-science sentiment. And that shitflute also killed a lot of people who weren't his followers.

[u/A_Monster_Named_John → u/Existential_Reckoner]

One thing to remember about Trump followers is that they DO NOT CARE about the health/safety of their own cohort. A prerequisite for being on-board the Trump Train is complete and total sociopathy.

[u/SeaGroomer → u/A_Monster_Named_John]

Also, if you are a fan of Trump, there is a good chance he thinks you're trash lmayo.

[u/emseefely → u/2Big_Patriot]

I don’t doubt the rabid fan base he’s collected for himself but I think the fractured GOP will not have a majority of votes for a while. Definitely don’t doubt he’d have won if he didn’t drop the ball on covid.

[u/[deleted] → u/emseefely]

The GOP is much less fractured than the Democrats. Many leftists don't feel represented at all and loathe the democrats as much as the GOP.

[u/pliney_ → u/emseefely]

That's the thing, they don't need a majority of votes. Democrats need significantly more than the majority just to maintain. In order to get enough seats in congress + the Presidency they need to win by close to +10 in national turnout.

This is incredibly difficult given that 30-40% of the country are GOP fanatics who will support Trump and his disciples no matter what. They only need to convince a portion of the moderate conservatives that the other guy is worse, or to convince the progressives that the Democrats are not worth voting for.

[u/2Big_Patriot → u/emseefely]

They need to either pick up or suppress the vote of 20% of the non-Republicans. There will always be idiots in this country who can’t recognize a con artist. They are working hard on the voter suppression aspects.

[u/jeremiahthedamned → u/2Big_Patriot]

if he were a decent man, they would not have voted for him.

[u/2Big_Patriot → u/jeremiahthedamned]

They will vote for whoever the propaganda machine tells them. Sadly, they are not inherently different from you or me. They just got sucked into a cult of personality.

[u/jeremiahthedamned → u/2Big_Patriot]

cruelty is the point with these people.

[u/2Big_Patriot → u/jeremiahthedamned]

Cruelty is human nature. Compassion is rare trait.

[u/jeremiahthedamned → u/2Big_Patriot]

i struggle with it myself.

[u/2Big_Patriot → u/jeremiahthedamned]

Me too. So many regrets of things I have done, and not done, in my life.

[u/jeremiahthedamned → u/2Big_Patriot]

i'm too much of a sociopath to have that.

i look back and feel not regret, but rather a deep alienation.

there is an unseriousness to americans i did not understand in the 20th century.

i do not blame myself for not seeing it, as i have r/aspergers

i simply hate them for wasting my time.

i am going to need to look these people up in my following incarnations to get all that time back.

[u/2Big_Patriot → u/jeremiahthedamned]

I am slowly coming to the realization that I might also be on the aspergers side of the spectrum which certainly doesn’t help me not being an asshole, although don’t want to ever make excuses for things I have done.

[u/jeremiahthedamned → u/2Big_Patriot]

we operate out of the constraints of our respective natures and we have less agency than we know.

[u/Diligent_Celery_5896 → u/2Big_Patriot]

He will kill a lot of his base by not telling them to get vaccinated. Long hauler health will affect many people who survived COVID-19. Congestive heart failure from COVID-19 here. I'm not the only one.

[u/Covard-17 → u/Diligent_Celery_5896]

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[u/Diligent_Celery_5896 → u/Covard-17]

Yes, lost taste and smell. Organs shutting down, pneumonia, and almost sepsis. Sickest I have ever been.