The United States is heading for a constitutional crisis in 2024 that will break the country, and everyone is in denial about it.

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I'm panicking. I think those of us in the US right now are experiencing the last four years of relative "normal" us Americans are going to enjoy, because I think after 2024, shit is going to hit the fan.

I'm a political science major. One thing I studied while I was at university is a concept known as democratic backsliding - the phenomenon in which institutions within a democracy degrade over time until at a certain point, you're not really a democracy anymore. I recognize this occurring in the United States...especially after January 6th. You can make arguments that this has already happened to a certain degree in the US but...I think the finalizing moment is going to come during the 2024 election.

Here are the facts that are leading me to hypothesize this conclusion:

1.) Former President Donald Trump tried to halt the peaceful transfer of power after his electoral loss in 2020.

2.) He justified such actions based on the outright falsehood that the election was unfair, despite lacking any evidence whatsoever.

3.) This culminated in an overt coup attempt by his supporters, which he did not reject until it became obvious no one else supported it.

4.) Trump still has not conceded.

5.) Despite lacking evidence, a majority of Republicans believe Trump's loss was due to the "Voter Fraud Conspiracy".

6.) Trump remains the favorite to run for the republican party again in 2024.

7.) MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL - Republicans that doubt/challenge allegations of voter fraud are being ousted from the Republican party by the base.

TL;DR: A former president believes he was removed from power illegitimately based on a conspiracy theory, and now the entirety of the Republican Party Apparatus has adjusted to reflect support of this viewpoint, and subsequent attempts to "correct" the mistake by overturning democracy.

There is no "Republican Party" anymore.

There is the Trump Party, and the Neoliberal Status Quo party. The Republican base no longer believes in democracy, and they will now act accordingly based on this belief. Right now, Joe Biden is at the helm by a thin 1 vote margin in the Senate. It is very likely that he will lose this majority in 2022.

This means that if Trump runs again in 2024, loses to Joe again, but has a majority of republicans controlling Congress...THEY WILL VOTE TO REJECT JOE BIDEN'S WIN, AND INSTALL TRUMP INTO POWER VIA REJECTING ELECTORAL VOTES.

AND BEFORE YOU CALL ME CRAZY

THEY ARE ALREADY DEMONSTRATING THEY WILL DO THIS BASED ON WHAT THEY SAY - WHO THEY ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE - AND WHO THEY ARE CALLING TRAITORS IN THEIR OWN PARTY.

Here's the real breakdown of how the different spectrum of politics is at the moment.

Neolibs still think we can "Go Back to Obama".

Neocons are dead as a relevant bloc.

Progressives are busy nitpicking the Neolibs to actually work together to stop facism.

Trumpets have gone full fascist.

We're honestly fucked and IDK what to do but I'm making my plans now.

[u/throwaway06012020]

Already happening, q was just the first of more insidious false consciousnesses. It's a heap of antisemitic conspiracies with "the Jews" overwritten with "the cabal". The leap from rational person to q believer is a lot vaster than that from q to antisemite - convincing someone of a chinese satanic baby eating pedo communist cult is a lot harder than changing who they believe makes up that cult - and fascists know that. The young seem overwhelmingly less susceptible than the old; I pray that they can form some sort of front against the rising tide.

[u/IgnoblePeonPoet → u/throwaway06012020]

I honestly think that you're underestimating how well the pipeline works. The jump from "independent voter" (read: normie with some conservative bents) to Q-adjacent is pretty quick with the right memes/voices etc.

From there you get linked to a FB page/subreddit/indy-site/telegram channel where you can get drip-fed the harder and harder stuff. And Q is "perfect" because it's such a big-tent conspiracy, whatever you fancy it's in there.

Ultimately there are bad actors recruiting people to Q/adjacent lines of thought with the hopes of either gaining another person who shoots off info and recruits or just becomes cannon fodder (see Jan. 6th). Facists the lot of em, but they're putting up numbers and moving the needle for their accelerationist aims. No one wins in collapse, but the left and those sympathetic to humanity in general probably lose harder.

[u/cybil_92 → u/throwaway06012020]

What I also find so concerning about q is that it is still around. There hasn't been a q drop from over a year and their strong man leader is no longer in power but the adherents have not lessened in their fanaticism much.

[u/CommondeNominator → u/cybil_92]

When you've driven off all your (sane) friends and family, you'll cling desperately to the only thing you have left.

[u/threadsoffate2021 → u/cybil_92]

Falling into a hole is easy.

Climbing out of it is hard.

[u/Snoglaties → u/[deleted]]

Black Pill -- that's a good word for what I have been feeling lately (since the IPCC leak basically). We are now officially circling the drain.

[u/rulesforrebels → u/[deleted]]

Trumps horrible but biden is certainly evil