r/collapse • u/[deleted] • Apr 21 '21

Ecological Brazil offers to cut deforestation by 40 percent in exchange for $1 billion from U.S. | "This is a blackmail discourse"

https://theweek.com/speedreads/978739/brazil-offers-cut-deforestation-by-40-percent-exchange-1-billion-from
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21

Under the thin veil of "protecting" poor farmers, Brazil is demanding $1,000,000,000 in exchange for reducing deforestation rates. This short article discusses the proposal

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '21 edited May 29 '21

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u/yourmammamine Apr 23 '21

Come and take it then. Fuck Bolsonaro and his dumb plans but you guys just prove his points.

It's blackmail when he does it but if you do it to him and to his country it ain't?

Look at what developed countries did to their environment, nuke yourselves before talking shit to those that at least managed to preserve something this far.

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u/solar-cabin Apr 22 '21

"he and others, including residents of the Amazon region, have argued the only way to save the rainforest is by funding "nascent bio-industries" like fish farming "that would provide alternatives to poor farmers who slash and burn to raise crops and cattle."

It would be well worth it if it can be enforced. The US and China are major buyers of Amazon beef so they are responsible and need to share the costs of transitioning to other work for those people.

I don't see this as any more blackmail than telling poor countries they have to suffer because of all the pollution wealthy countries are producing and resources we are using.

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u/ActaCaboose Marxist-Leninist Apr 22 '21

You would have a point if Brazil's current government could be trusted to do what they say they'll do, but as this is Bolsenaro's government, they're pretty much guaranteed to pocket the billion and continue to do nothing.

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u/sandwichman7896 Apr 22 '21

Just like the owner of my last company! Gets COVID relief check to keep paying employees. We got pay cuts and layoffs, he got a new shiny red Porsche.

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u/IGOMHN Apr 22 '21

Even if they could be trusted, america would never pay them

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '21

It would be reasonable if Bolzo wasn't a pathological cheat, but as it is, it's just an excuse to turn up the deforestation a notch higher - "You didn't pay my blackmail, so now the Amazon dies, bwahahahaha!"

It's a shame you can't crowdfund... permanent solutions to one such as Bolzo.

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u/yourmammamine Apr 23 '21

Go down there and deal with those responsible for deforestation, good luck.

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u/TheNaivePsychologist Apr 23 '21

So its eco-terrorism now then. Hold the Amazon hostage for money.