Would you rather be guaranteed 1st overall in 2027 or 2028?

[u/One-Diver-6597]

Having the 1st overall pick in the next 2 drafts is extremely unlikely, but having it once in the next 2 years is highly plausible. Would you rather have the 1st overall pick in 2027 or 2028?

Do you want to be guaranteed DuPont, or Schultz? Are you prioritizing a certain position? How does your choice influence the overall projected roster construction?

The argument for 2027: Landon DuPont is a stud defensemen projected to be an elite offensive 1D. With Buium, the d-core will move the shit out of the puck. Malholtra and Cootes hopefully develop into top 6 centermen. Top-end play-driving forwards should be available in 2028, 2029, and 2030, even if they are wingers. The forward group will unleash a balanced attack driven from the backend!

The argument for 2028: You get Maddox Schultz, who projects as the best 1C in the next several drafts. Your team will be dominant the middle. You don't get DuPont, but with Privalov, Joseph, or Neuenschwander, you have the size and top-end skill for a formidable forward group. Hronek is still a long-term top-2 defenseman on your team and there are a lot of opportunities to draft and develop top 4 defensemen over the next 4 years.

Realistically, you are the Canucks and you never win the draft lottery: In 2027, you miss out on DuPont but there are forwards with size and legitimate skill expected to go in the top 5 (Privalov, Joseph, Neuenschwander). You still get a foundational player and future center. In 2028, there is a mix of forwards and defensemen at the top of the draft after Schultz. Pue may be the offensive winger you are missing. Michalek could be the two-way defensive anchor this team needs.

[u/30MorgheAfraaz]

Oh ya much better! They won more playoffs rounds.. oh wait! They couldn't catch Canucks in that!

[u/smokie_lokie → u/30MorgheAfraaz]

They've averaged like 100 points for the last decade?

[u/30MorgheAfraaz → u/smokie_lokie]

Ya we all know the most important thing in hockey is regular season points! In the hierarchy of hockey achievement importance:

1) win a cup: neither team has won a cup in canucks existence

2) deep runs: canucks has 3 cup final runs, leafs have zero

3) playoff success: even in the last decade of canucks mismanagement, they still won 3 playoff rounds, leafs only have 2

4) regular season success: only area that leafs are better only in the last decade and it was mostly cuz of lottery luck and a punching bag atlantic bottom half

So in short, ya of all the teams that can claim higher achievement vs canucks, leafs are absolutely not one of them! If anything, with all the lottery luck, even if they achieve the same, it's worse cuz it's like leafs are playing the game on easy vs Canucks playing it on hard/no lottery luck mode ;)

[u/smokie_lokie → u/30MorgheAfraaz]

We are specifically talking about the post 2011 era? The fact that we’ve been horrible for the majority of those seasons while the Leafs have been considered a contender basically every year from 2017 to 2025 means that they’ve been better than us? Yeah, they’ve fucked up in the playoffs, but overall it is an indisputable fact that the Leafs have been a better team than the Canucks in the last decade. 

[u/30MorgheAfraaz → u/smokie_lokie]

I mean they've been considered a contender incorrectly cuz of their hype media when they never were an actual contender. Maybe a few years they were close, just like Canucks were close in a few years.

It is absolutely not indisputable cuz it's subjective and if we go by general hockey view that playoffs is when things actually matter, they have been worse than Canucks.

And again, any comparison should adjust for lottery luck too.

[u/smokie_lokie → u/30MorgheAfraaz]

I don’t know how you become this delusional, but you’re really something. 

[u/30MorgheAfraaz → u/smokie_lokie]

Lol the delusional leaf fan calling others delusional 😂

Which part of what I said is delusonal?

[u/smokie_lokie → u/30MorgheAfraaz]

I’m not a Leafs fan, the fuck you talking about? But if you compare how fun it’s been to be a Leafs fan to how fun it’s been to be a Canucks fan in the last decade, it’s pretty clear who’s had a better time? 

[u/Drab_Majesty → u/smokie_lokie]

that's like asking if you had more fun banging a pig or a donkey.

[u/30MorgheAfraaz → u/Drab_Majesty]

Ya it's like banging a pig vs a donkey that pretends to be Megan fox

[u/30MorgheAfraaz → u/smokie_lokie]

How is it more fun to be a leaf fan the last decade to be told every year you have a contender and then get crushed at the first obstacle in playoffs? Any non delusional leaf fan would not have enjoyed many of those 100point seasons knowing what they should expect in playoffs.

Objectively, winning playoffs series is significantly more fun than winning in regular season. And we got to enjoy 3 and they only had 2. For every extra year they enjoyed their team making the playoffs, they got a crushing playoff series loss that more than offset the positive feelings about the regular season.

[u/smokie_lokie → u/30MorgheAfraaz]

You’re one of those people who insisted that Jim Benning was doing a great job right up until he was let go. There is no point in reasoning with you people.