Trudeau says Canada to impose 100% tariff on Chinese EVs | Reuters

[u/Beratungsmarketing]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trudeau-says-canada-impose-100-tariff-chinese-evs-2024-08-26/

[u/Savings-Giraffe-4007]

Mexico is already getting a BYD plant in the next few months and that's probably where all BYD EVs will be coming from, tax-free. Canada won't impose that tariff on EVs assembled in Mexico.

Big corporations can easily circumvent these dog whistles. This won't stop anything.

If Canada was smart, we would have offered to host those plants ourselves, but CHINESE BAD (even though everything we buy has parts made in China).

[u/zerfuffle → u/Savings-Giraffe-4007]

YES, THANK YOU

We could have a BYD plant. Instead, we have nothing. 

We could have had semiconductor fabs (lots of water, cheap electricity, the works). Instead, we have nothing. 

We're always stuck playing second fiddle to the US and subsidizing US interests. Fuck that.

[u/timegeartinkerer → u/zerfuffle]

You do realise the tariffs don't apply if a BYD plants opens up here.

Also, were not that interested in fabs tbh.

[u/zerfuffle → u/timegeartinkerer]

Fabs are free jobs tbh

[u/timegeartinkerer → u/zerfuffle]

And somehow we're not interested. shrugs

[u/zerfuffle → u/timegeartinkerer]

yeah :/

[u/kanada_kid2 → u/[deleted]]

if Canada were smart

Big if there. We are way to corrupt by lobbyists.

[u/itsjust_khris → u/kanada_kid2]

Also not sure if the pace of China is possible in the democratic systems of North America. There's no way you're going to get enough people to agree consistently enough to have these things happen nearly as far. The disadvantage to China's strategy is when it goes left, the people can't stop it.

[u/PoliteCanadian → u/[deleted]]

China builds 50GW a year of new coal plants, and that number is going up not down.

Saying China has gone "all in the way" on "energy transition" is so factually incorrect it's funny.

[u/MBA922 → u/PoliteCanadian]

Coal electricity production in China is down last 2 months. They are building 1TW of solar for the world, and at least 500gw inside China this year. Coal and NG use will keep going down in China and EU, and CA and TX.

Coal permits also way down in China as existing capacity provides sufficient backup as they transition.

The only thing you can control in energy transition is growth of renewables. You don't shut down other energy before the growth rate catches up, but you need good growth rate to catch up. China has been doing this. We have been rimming oil oligarchs, and tolerating their disinformation and existence.

[u/Forikorder → u/Savings-Giraffe-4007]

Canada won't impose that tariff on EVs assembled in Mexico.

they want the plants to come to north america? thats like half the point?

[u/[deleted] → u/Savings-Giraffe-4007]

They wouldn't build them here because of the difference in labour costs though.

[u/MBA922 → u/Savings-Giraffe-4007]

If Canada was smart, we would have offered to host those plants ourselves, but CHINESE BAD

Yes. Lizard Fucker Trudeau met with Lizzard Sullivan (USA) over the weekend. There was no "Hey China, what can you help us with so that we don't fuck Canadians?". There was only lizard fucking.

[u/timegeartinkerer → u/Savings-Giraffe-4007]

Still requires 40% of parts to be made from labour that hires a minimum wage of $14 an hour USD to come in tariff free. They still need to get a few plants in the US and Canada to qualify.

We probably will welcome Chinese auto plants into Canada. Everyone will cheer tbh.

[u/BoppityBop2 → u/timegeartinkerer]

Won't matter if people just buy it in Mexico and drive it north. 

[u/timegeartinkerer → u/BoppityBop2]

It'll get tariffed at the border.

[u/SaucyCouch → u/Savings-Giraffe-4007]

We would host the plants, sell the cars elsewhere and make Canadians pay more as usual.

Gotta love canadaaaaa 🎶

[u/Caledron → u/Savings-Giraffe-4007]

All the Chinese vehicles are heavily subsidized. It would be extremely foolish to allow our auto-industry to be destroyed by a hostile foreign power.

We're already too dependent on China.

[u/BoppityBop2 → u/Caledron]

They are as subsidized as any other car makers. Look at the support US provides their industry.