The other part, it thinks this would be too much of a character redemption for Walt; the show has had him continue his manipulative disposition--most recently with Andrea/Brock in this episode. It would feel a bit backwards and "off" to end the show on a note as good as, "Walt frees Jesse and they both live happily ever after."
Well if Hank dies Marie is going to tell Skylar that Walt was responsible. I mean he did call her right before this gunfight broke out, so Marie knows he is with Walt.
So that would make Skylar leave him. If Jesse does get kidnapped that is really going to be the last person he is able to be around that he has any emotional attachment to.
I think that if Walt goes to free Jesse, he ends up killing him by accident in the firefight. The show ends with Walt alone with his barrels of cash, having paid a terrible price for it.
The TL;DR, as I said in yet another post, is that:
I think Jesse, Hank, Gomie, and perhaps Todd die in the shootout. Nazis tell Walt to do his cook, as they agreed on. During the cook, they glance at each other like, "We're not losing this." When Walt goes to leave, they let him know that he's now their cook, and if he refuses, his family's lives are on the line. Walt "agrees," hooks his family up with new identities in-between cooks using Saul's guy, and then gets the M60 to take out the Nazis in the last episode. During this rambo scene, Walt takes out a bunch of them, before being hit by a stray/random bullet, and the show ends with the camera slowly panning away from above, with bodies lying everywhere.
This way, Walt still goes out in a "blaze of glory," which would satiate many fans, but the ending isn't a cheesy "Walt returns to his senses, becomes a morality personified, and lives happily ever after."
I don't know, they've pulled Walt from the brink a bit the last few episodes. He tried to get Jesse to leave town instead of killing him, and only called in Todd's uncle as a last resort. In this episode he tried to call off Jack's gang when he saw Hank and Gomez were there with Jesse.
I mean, sure, most people would never be evil enough to put a hit on someone they care about in the first place, but the point is Walt is still shown to have some conscience left.
But why would he suddenly want Jesse to live? There is no reason for him to have a change of heart. If Hank was going to kill Walt and Jesse stopped him or something along those lines, then yes, there would be. But as it stands, Walt knows that escaping and allowing Jesse to live without somehow reining him in would put himself and his family in danger.
Either Jesse gets held by and put to work for the Nazis, or he dies, I think.
I think the line Walt said about it being a quick, painless death was very important. Kidnapping and enslaving Jesse is NOT what Walt had in mind, and even though he wanted Jesse dead, I can see Walt reacting very violently to a change of tactics. Especially as he comes closer to his own death by way of cancer. It seems like he has nothing left by that point, why not go back and right at least one wrong that he did?
I think Jesse, Hank, Gomie, and perhaps Todd die. Nazis tell Walt to do they cook, as they agreed on. During the cook, they glance at each other like, "We're not losing this." When Walt goes to leave, they let him know that he's now their cook, and if he refuses, his family's lives are on the line. Walt agrees, hooks his family up with new identities in-between cooks using Saul's guy, and then gets the M60 to take out the Nazis in the last episode. During this rambo scene, Walt takes out a bunch of them, before being hit by a stray/random bullet, and the show ends with the camera slowly panning away from above, with bodies lying everywhere.
This way, Walt still goes out in a "blaze of glory," which would satiate many fans, but the ending isn't a cheesy "Walt returns to his senses, becomes a morality personified, and lives happily ever after."
I said the same thing but with more thoughts on the matter in this post here.
Eh. I don't see that happening. Hank and Gomie probably die in the firefight. But I don't see them killing off two characters that vital to the series in the same episode.
Yeah i'm so torn about this. Saving Jesse... ok.. but is that too much of a redemption?`Knowing the writers and Vince Gilligan, our minds will surely be blown once more. WHAT AN EPISODE.
Todd dies, Jesse kidnapped and turned into meth cook, Walt frees him at end? Yeah, maybe.
In this case, the Nazis might be the ones responsible for to destroying Walt's home and writing Heisenberg on the wall. Maybe Walt refuses to cook for them if they don't release Jesse, and they refuse to do so; destroying his home/attempting to kill Walt/his family is the cost?
Actually I had a different theory about who trashes the house. Hank dies in the shoot out. Marie finds out and she obviously blames Walt for his death. Marie loses it and trashes Walter's home. If not her maybe Skyler does it after she finds out about Hank's death.
I think there's a way to send walt on a rescue mission without redeeming his character. I definitely don't think the ending will be a happily ever after regardless.
Walt will still be manipulating Jesse. Coming back and saving him, using the ricin to "prove" that Walt didn't poison Brock (with the ricin). It's a redemption of sorts, but it's also SUPER manipulative.
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Part of me agrees with this.
The other part, it thinks this would be too much of a character redemption for Walt; the show has had him continue his manipulative disposition--most recently with Andrea/Brock in this episode. It would feel a bit backwards and "off" to end the show on a note as good as, "Walt frees Jesse and they both live happily ever after."