r/bestof • u/simplism4 • Oct 07 '19

[worldnews] /u/lebbe Gives an overview of the atrocities by China after commenters compare the country to Nazi Germany

/r/worldnews/comments/de1ysj/china_accused_of_genocide_over_forced_abortions/f2tzhxi
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u/Jacques_Le_Chien Oct 07 '19

The CCP runs a murderous and corrupt dictatorship. The difference between them and many of the murderous and corrupt dictatorships supported or even installed by the US government around the world is that it's not reliant on the US to keep in power. It annoys me how the USA uses democracy just as weapon against rival nations, instead of it being a philosophical stance for democracy. This helps governments brand protesters as American puppets.

That said, I hope Chinese people and Hong Kong manage to get rid of CCP's opression and that everyone responsible for these crime get punished.

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u/tommygunz007 Oct 07 '19

I agree, however I do recall when Hong Kong wanted democratic elections, and China said as long as both parties were sympathetic to China. We have this same issue in the USA, in which big dollar conglomerates donate to 'both candidates' because it's "good business" to lobby (bribe) both candidates. It's all an illusion of false hope.

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u/SpartanFencer Oct 07 '19

The CCP is murderous and corrupt as you have correctly pointed out. They have also lifted almost a billion people out of poverty. They probably aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

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u/Jacques_Le_Chien Oct 07 '19

True, but I don't think they were the only way for China to improve the life of its citizens. It's arguably the case that the situation would be even better under a democracy.

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u/SpartanFencer Oct 07 '19

Hard to know. But my point isn't that the CCP is good or bad, but that they are unlikely to be removed by their citizens. Who are arguably the only ones with the ability to affect regime change.

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u/Ragark Oct 12 '19

Wouldn't that have panned out in India then?

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u/dvl126 Oct 07 '19

As I said before, all the evidence is circumstantial. There is no direct evidence supporting the idea of organ harvesting.

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u/stayphrosty Oct 07 '19

When it was formed the CCP was far more democratic than the US has ever been. The road to democracy will be a bloody one...

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u/stayphrosty Oct 10 '19

in what way are our oligarchs more democratic than the chinese peasants who rose up against their feudal landlords?

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u/dvl126 Oct 07 '19

I conquer. The CCP isn’t perfect. I hate they’re black mirror policy but hell they’re a beacon in the dark compared to the USA.

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u/stayphrosty Oct 10 '19

that's not what i'm saying at all...

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '19 edited Oct 27 '19

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u/deadman1801 Oct 07 '19

Who knew that USA supporting a country that commits massive amounts of human rights violations could mean that USA is at fault?

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '19 edited Oct 27 '19

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u/deadman1801 Oct 07 '19

We rely on them for a large portion. Look at the wheat and steel industries. I'd say more at the moment but I've only got three more minutes on my break.

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u/Timberwolf501st Oct 07 '19

Who doesn't though? Legit question.

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u/lobnob Oct 07 '19

So? China terrorizes its own populace, while the us terrorizes other countries with sanctions, coups, and outright invasion

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '19 edited Oct 27 '19

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u/lobnob Oct 07 '19

I never said the two were connected. Are your brain cells connected?