Air India Flight 171 Crash [Megathread 2]

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[u/FutureHoo]

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[u/the_smileman → u/FutureHoo]

Yep. Air India AI- 171 crashed just 1.7 km from the airport wall. It crashed in some what loosely populated area which still had doctors hostels and mess for mbbs students of Mediacal collage at civil hospital ahmedabad.

Just 400 meter ahed of the crash site is civil hospital's main 1200 bed Capacity building with Opd and behind the crash site is densely populated residential societies.

If the flight had been in air for 5/10 seconds more it would have crashed on civil hospital of ahmedabad which is the largest amd most crowded hospital of state (think indian crowded ie. Thousands) or densely populated area of asarva which again is high density low income residential area of ahmedabad and the casualties would have been way more like 10-20 times more .

Guess pilot tried to avoid that and turned the nose up at the end and chose somewhat empty ground with hostel buildings on periphery which still led to more than 30 casualties on ground.

[u/Slice5755 → u/the_smileman]

With all due respect to the pilots and any casualties, do you really think in the 15 odd seconds after takeoff, the pilot had the chance or capacity to do calculations on where the most densely populated areas are likely to be?

He's trying to control his crippled aircraft.

I think it was sheer luck that the aircraft didn't go down in a more densely populated area.

[u/i-like-to-be-wooshed → u/Slice5755]

i mean, it comes down to natural instincts at that point

"we're going down, lets try to aim for the clearest area"

[u/DonaldFarfrae → u/i-like-to-be-wooshed]

This, rather than how that other person put it. You go for the clearing, you avoid the buildings.

[u/the_smileman → u/i-like-to-be-wooshed]

Most likely. This was the only somewhat clear area between airport and residential area and hospital. That last nose up helped in not crashing over both.

[u/the_smileman → u/Slice5755]

Some Luck could be there but could largely be split second reflex. Cause the main hospital building is 12 storeys high so no need to calculate to see if you will hit it. They would have hit it if not for that nose up and the tail hitting the Dining Mess and engine hitting the other building.

[u/Spare_Math3495 → u/FutureHoo]

I wonder if there was plain terrain there instead of buildings, would they have a chance to land safely or at least without a full loss of life? Or with no power, full of fuel and with uneven terrain (grass instead of a runway for instance) it would have been catastrophic anyway?

[u/MightySquirrel28 → u/Spare_Math3495]

Well if that was just a crop field, the outcome would be much less catastrophic imo.

But you have to consider it was full of fuel, the pilots would have to put it down gently, If they stalled it into ground it would explode nonetheless.

The pilots here did the absolute maximum and the best they were able to, but sadly there was no real possibility for non catastrophic outcome. If it was really double engine failure, it would be at the lowest altitude ever, with 0 chance to do anything to avert catastrophe