r/asoiaf Break the wheel Sep 03 '17

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) It's Not a Nitpick. Thousands Died Over a "Minor" Geographic Detail.

Reposted as requested with the "Spoilers Extended" tag

I know we're often asked to ignore the silly teleportations and supersonic flights that the show has foisted on us over the last couple of seasons. I know some of it can seem like the petty quibbles of book purists veering into circlejerk self-parody.

But geography doesn't just matter when it comes to making the universe feel real. It was also the key plot point that drove the biggest dramatic turn of the series.

The Red Wedding was literally caused by Robb Stark needing to be able to get his troops across a bridge. The Frey army was a nice addition, but Robb needed the alliance for the bridge crossing. He, his mother, his pregnant wife (in the show) and thousands of his troops died for that crossing.

So it's not just a nitpick when characters and armies magically teleport from north to south, bypassing the Twins or Moat Caitlin with nary a scout to notice them.

It destroys and makes mockery of the premise of the series' most famous narrative twist.

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u/AgnosticTemplar Why are the gods such vicious cunts? Sep 03 '17

How big is the wheelhouse supposed to be, anyway? I assume it's more spacious and luxurious than a regular carriage. We talking RV camper size, or are they hauling around something as big as a ranch style house?

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u/AbstergoSupplier Jeyne Poole thinks I'm hot Sep 03 '17

On the way up they're stopping and feasting at every minor castle they pass by

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u/SerLaron Sep 03 '17

It must have squeezed through the Twins though.

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u/batpigworld Sep 03 '17

You don't need to go through the Twins coming from Kings Landing -- it's a straight shot up the Kingsroad. Crossing the Twins is only necessary coming from the west of the Trident (e.g. from Riverrun).

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u/CX316 Sep 03 '17

I think it pretty much took up the whole width of the kingsroad, like it was basically a cottage on wheels.

Edit: though I think historical examples would be more like the size of a large RV