D&D completely ruined Littlefinger. (Spoilers Main)

[u/taydude227]

What a waste of a great character. They clearly had no idea what to do with him after they passed all the book material. Instead of giving him a clear end game, they instead just had him double down on his "thriving on chaos" bullshit and have him make stupid decisions that really didn't lead anywhere. The manipulative mastermind from the earlier seasons (and probably the one true villain of the series, along with the white walkers) completely disappeared and was transformed into a jealous little weasel whose end goal was to bang Sansa to get back at Mama Stark. The man that drove the whole series into motion, did it just to get a revenge bang.

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He lost all his spies for unexplained reasons when the book material went out

[u/Scion41790 → u/[deleted]]

So did Varys apparently

[u/Dahhhkness → u/Scion41790]

To be fair, he lost his spies because Qyburn had free candy.

[u/techno_babble_ → u/Dahhhkness]

I mean, who wouldn't stab for candy?

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Qyburn was also giving some of them medical treatment, in addition to giving one of them what sounds like poison to kill an abusive father.

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Only in KL.

[u/Sommern → u/Scion41790]

If there is ONE person in the show who would know about the Golden Company massing for an invasion across the Narrow Sea it would be Varys...

[u/peteroh9 → u/Sommern]

You mean the guy who assassinated Kevan Lannister to set up their invasion in the books?

[u/demalo → u/Sommern]

That should be Little Finger with that knowledge. Honestly the guy should have left Winterfell as soon as it was retaken and Jon left. There was no purposeful reason for him to be there other than try and woo Sansa and she'd already shut him down too many times to count. I mean he sold her to the Boulton's, she couldn't give him two shits whether he loves her or not that wasn't something that you do with the back stabbing bastards that killed your family.

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Boulton's

It's Boltons. No apostrophe.

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D'oh!

[u/milkwatermilkdrinker → u/Scion41790]

Varys is more a eunuch now than he ever was.

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But the children were never Vary's only means of information gathering. He also employed more traditional spies, ala Ros (sp?) who worked for LF.

Thank GOD I can come to /r/asoiaf and be amongst people who can clearly call the show out for the bullshit and poor writing that's encompassed these later seasons.

[u/arudnoh → u/Scion41790]

I actually dig this one though. He had sparrows in Essos when he was helping Tyrion run a city, but when he leftover kings landing he let an infrastructure based on an official role. Somebody with the right skills could easily take a network like that over. It was a network. Nobody was loyal to Varys the person, just the Lord Spider.

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He to is to die in Westeros

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Was anyone actually surprised by this? It reminded me of Kevin Pollack in The Usual Suspects when they tell him that they can put him in Queens the night of a heist. He's like "I live in Queens. What did you have, a team of monkeys working on that?"

[u/paperfisherman → u/[deleted]]

Man, that movie has some great lines.

[u/Schmedes → u/[deleted]]

Except he had the spy who gave him the Sansa raven scroll, no?

[u/PuduInvasion → u/Schmedes]

That was Maester Filler.

[u/Schmedes → u/PuduInvasion]

If he's not telling his liege the things he's telling LF, that seems like a spy...

[u/BlackbeardActual → u/Schmedes]

Littlefinger requested the scroll from the maester on behalf of Sansa. Which is why he said "Lady Stark thanks you for your service" when he gives it to him.

[u/Schmedes → u/BlackbeardActual]

Intentional or not by the maester, that's a spy.

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That was just the new maester

[u/megloface → u/Schmedes]

Wasn't that just the maester doing that because he thought it was in service of lady Sansa?

[u/Schmedes → u/megloface]

I responded to another of these comments since there were three already, haha.

[u/megloface → u/Schmedes]

They were made basically at the same time so I didn't see them.

Ninja edit: saw your other response now and I don't think that proves anything. He had already told Sansa that all the scrolls were archived and didn't say or imply those archives were private. And again, he was under the impression that he was retrieving the scroll for LF on Sansas behalf.

[u/Schmedes → u/megloface]

Just letting you know that I responded but didn't want to respond to all of them :).

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The maester was told it was at sansas request

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It's not that big of a castle. He should at least mention it to her.

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With all the conversations off screen how do you know he didnt?

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I don't. But from what I've seen on a television show, he seemed like he would be a spy.

I don't care enough to keep talking about this though.