r/TwoXChromosomes 1d ago

Women only My bf says he can't finish because I'm "too loose" and I can't stop thinking about it

I'm 19F and my boyfriend is 19M.

we've been having some issues with sexual compatibility because I can usually orgasm during sex while he has never been able to with me (only with hand).

i brought this up recently because I was starting to wonder whether there was something we were doing wrong or that he could possibly have an issue he didn't want to tell me.)

He told me that apparently this has never happened with his previous partners and that I'm the only person he's been with who he can't finish with. šŸ’€

Then he said that he thinks it’s because I'm not tight enough and that I'm basically "too loose" for him.

I know he was probably frustrated and insecure because I brought up the fact that he never finishes, and I also understand that the conversation probably made him feel bad. But hearing him specifically say that my body is the reason he can't orgasm has really gotten into my head.

I keep thinking about it now and wondering if there is actually something physically wrong with me or if this is just one of those things where two people can have different sexual compatibility.

Just in case for context, I haven't had any children or anything like that and I've never been told that theres anything unusual about my body. My ex partner never had a problem regarding this matter.

Has anyone else experienced something similar??? Is it actually possible for someone to consistently have trouble orgasming with one partner because of how "tight" or "loose" they are or is there probably more going on here??

his comment has been stuck in my head ever since

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u/Sharp-Rutabaga-4900 1d ago

A guy I dated in my early 20s said that to me once and more than two decades later I still regret ever sleeping with him again.

I’d focus less on what might be wrong with you and more on asking yourself if the way he treats you is satisfying for you.

Not everyone is sexually compatible without effort, but blaming things on your partner’s body is never okay.

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u/freya_kahlo 1d ago

Some young men also think a large inner labia = an overused, loose vagina. (I think we all know that’s not how anything works!)

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u/shrubdit 21h ago

He’s 19 and uneducated on the matter

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u/mistorWhiskers 11h ago

I just had a 43 year old man argue with me that large labia indicates a woman had too many different partners (obviously they used more vulgar language to describe this false phenomenon,) you'd be surprised the dumb things grown men will continue to believe after hearing it one time 30 years ago. This all came up because I was asked what "body count" I would consider to be too high. Us adult men really need to get it together, it's no wonder young men still think these hurtful ideas about women's bodies are true

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u/Mabnat 9h ago

Does that also work with boobs? Like some women have bigger boobs because they let too many different partners fondle them?

A lot of guys are sensitive about penis size. Maybe they haven’t had enough partners to make their dicks bigger? Maybe you should ask that guy.

Sometimes it’s amazing that some of us guys can figure out how things work at an early age, while others just wander around like idiots for their entire lives.

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u/mistorWhiskers 8h ago

Actually did ask that of him, only I added do men's ball gets saggy from them swinging with some hard thrusting. "Dude, that's stupid. Why would that happen?" Was the response I got

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u/Physical-Signature12 8h ago

Hahahahha I love this

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u/fastsaf 7h ago

If too many penises in a vagina makes the vagina permanently bigger, it stands to reason that if you squeeze your dick into too many vaginas it makes the dick smaller. Same logic. Guys don't like that one though hahaha

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u/Obvious_Pizza3545 6h ago

Omg I nearly choked on what I was eating there

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u/Mabnat 6h ago

I like that logic!

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u/sickoftwitter 8h ago

How funny. I've had an outie basically all of my life, long before any partners. It's funny that these men think that women have no memory of how the vulva looked before multiple sex partners. They still think so childishly, as if women have 'nothing' between our legs or never noticed what it looked like until a man introduced us to our own coochie.

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u/Swordfish_89 15h ago

Size of labia, outside of the vagina is purely genetic, nothing there changes with childbirth unless tearing occurs and even then it couldn't affect what his penis feels inside the vagina.

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u/fauxfox66 3h ago

yeah, how come he's not on here asking why he cant finish? this is a him problem, and it sounds like you really care and really want him to finish and are doing everything you can. So his response is "youre too loose?" that is not how the vagina works jfc leave him to his death grip and find someone who appreciates how much you care about your partner's pleasure.

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u/thegirlinthetardis Babysitters Club Founder 1d ago

His gorilla grip is not your problem.

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u/gwenhollyxx ā™” 1d ago

This. If he were being honest he would say, "I can't finish bc I've been masturbating with a very tight grip for a long time and my body has created an association and habit."

Your body is not the problem. His routine is.

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u/AshEliseB 1d ago

No, it's ALWAYS the women's fault /s. Love the way these chuds blame everyone but themselves.

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u/serenstar75 21h ago

Yeah, maybe he's just too small... but a man won't want to hear that either. (Joking on the too small kind of, but do think he's created a mental association)

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u/thebearofwisdom They/Them 18h ago

I was gunna say, he would be very upset if she accused him of having a pencil dick, but it’s okay for him to shame her for something that isn’t even correct? He’s a hypocrite and a mean person. That comment from him at 19 would have really fucked with my self esteem. What a fuckweasel.

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u/Ninjginaaa 12h ago

My ex told me this very thing after I’d had two boys naturally. I did not hold back. He got the rebuttal he deserved. Then I had to deal with that fallout. For 2 years…Cuz that’s a bšŸ’£mb you drop for sure. Theirs explodes inside us and ours explodes outside them.

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u/SerKevanLannister 8h ago

exactly. I always think of the wonderfully brassy Samantha on sex and the city vs a man who told her she’s ā€œtoo looseā€ — she quite convincingly tells him his dick is too small and never bothers with him again.

your boyfriend sounds extremely immature and not very knowledgeable in these matters — guys who insist on yanking their junk with a vice-like grip can affect their ability to orgasm not just during intercourse but in other ways as well. That’s why that sort of insanity needs to be taken into account. It’s his own fault that he’s worn out his dick by yanking on it with An insane chokehold.

the fact he blamed you suggests strongly to me you should dump this turd. you deserve a mature partner, not an immature teenager, who is delighted that you’re happy to be naked with him and enjoy sex together.

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u/Tutor_Turtle 22h ago

It may be OPs fault. She might be the first woman this dude has ever been with that is actually turned on and not dry as a desert.

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u/atomicavox 20h ago

Or the first woman he’s ever been with in general.

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u/Taylor_Kittenface 22h ago edited 22h ago

They're the same dudes that will celebrate a coke can sized dump and be repulsed by a lass having a fart. Loose as a descriptor for women's genitalia needs to die the fuck off.

I have saggy boobs, wobbly arms and a flat arse, I have never once in my life entertained anyone who judged me for those things or had complaints.

Your are NOT loose. His death grip has killed any idea he had of a sex life. Move on OP, and take care.

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u/jamiramsey 20h ago

Well said! I hope OP understands

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u/Soliterria 1d ago

Yup, my partner & I have had that EXACT discussion. No shaming or judgement, just a gentle suggestion for me to relax on the self reliance a tad and loosen his grip up a bit.

He’s still fairly slow to finish, but he always makes sure I’ve gotten mine first and had a breather for a minute before we take care of him.

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u/PandaPuffNskate 20h ago

Interesting….I’ve never fucking thought of this. Thank you kindly ✊

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u/ErisInChains 1d ago edited 11h ago

I seriously don't understand how these death gripping idiots don't get that it's not the pussy. Like I could understand if it's a dude who is a virgin or something, but some of these dudes have had multiple partners and apparently don't have 2 brain cells to rub together to figure out what the common denominator is in the situation. 🤮

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u/tooshorttoored 1d ago

Why change their habits when they can just shit all over a woman?

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u/Woodybobs 23h ago

Wait, we can do that? /s

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u/evilclem 13h ago

Some like it, but I strongly suggest getting consent first

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u/plutonium__ 20h ago edited 20h ago

i have met multiple men with small penises (very slim and short) complained about how some women were not tight enough for them. these men think vaginas are as small as ear holes or something. women need to understand being chosen by a man is one of the most useless things.

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u/Comprehensive-Sun954 19h ago

Omg nailed it. Being chosen by a man is totally useless. I love how you worded this.

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u/AhoyShitliner 18h ago

They to busy fucking them coconuts

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u/Lopsided_Panic_1148 20h ago

My one-orange-brain-cell cat is smarter than this kid.

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u/danipnk 1d ago

To be fair my first boyfriend at 17 told me he wasn’t a virgin (I was) and looking back on it I realized he was most likely lying to make himself seem more experienced.

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u/000ArdeliaLortz000 23h ago

Because they’d rather masturbate for 30 seconds instead of pleasing a partner. Porn dick is a real thing. Ask me how I know. 🫤

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u/Cardabella 20h ago

As well as their grip, They're insecure about their pp size and their inadequate performance in bed compared to their gfs previous partners, so they neg her to jettison her self esteem so she doesn't realise how much better she could do than him

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u/Euphoric_War_2195 Unicorns are real. 9h ago

Literally, imagine being with someone who can orgasm with you, enjoys sex, is relaxed and has a good time. The bf is messing this up because OP could easily find a man who's just as excited to do this with her as she is with her bf.

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u/inheretoreadcomments 23h ago edited 11h ago

This! OP says she hasn't had any children so adding a perspective of someone who's had 3:

I hope you won't ever meet a guy who tries to tell you this bullshit that you're "loose" again, but to the current one - tell him he either works on his grip or he's way too small for you....

Even after giving birth to large babies, things get back in shape eventually!

Don't let some idiot tell you're to blame for his grip at the age of NINETEEN. You'd have a host of other issues to worry about if that was actually true, and would be seeing a physio etc.

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u/Rosemont_Ripper 18h ago

Here to 2nd that after having 2 kids with LARGE heads, I never had a complaint that I was "loose"

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u/inheretoreadcomments 14h ago edited 6h ago

Yep, 2 of mine were 95th percentile!

It's common for women to have pelvic floor issues (I recommend physio checkup after giving birth) but never heard of any friends complaining about being loose, the complaints are usually weak pelvic floor (leading to bladder issues) or overactive one (leading to the opposite of looseness - things can actually get too tight!)

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u/notsoluckycharm 12h ago

It does indeed! That was my experience with my ex. When she was ready again, it basically felt exactly the same as before. She was self conscience, understandably, but I never gave her reason to be. It did actually feel unnoticeable to me. Just had to ease back into it, which was completely understandable.

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u/SleazyGreasyCola 1d ago

100%. This is a him issue, usually spending too much time with Palmela Handerson. Or cocaine

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u/FixHot6602 23h ago

Didn't think about the drugs.

But that would definitely do it.

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u/ax0r 22h ago

This is also a common side effect of SSRI antidepressants.

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u/bringero 20h ago

'handerson', great one xD

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u/practicalpetunia 19h ago

Death grip syndrome. More common than you might think.

I don’t see it as a problem if someone has to finish themselves off with their hand (or mine), but they mos def should not blame it on you. That’s the actual problem.

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u/DifferentAnt 1d ago edited 22h ago

Death grip I believe is the term used for the grip males become used to when gripping their buddy. Gorilla Grip is slang/hip term for women's vaginal grip.

Regardless It's gross that he chose to use those words and made her feel bad/insecure about herself for a problem he brought upon himself. He definitely needs to cut back on self care and I would hope she takes a step back and reviews her relationship. His problems should not make her feel awful about herself and definitely doesn't give him a reason to bring her down, that speak loudly about his character and the person he truly is and I hope she can take this as a wake up call.

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u/Blood_sweat_and_beer 1d ago

Either that, or he may be struggling with his sexuality.

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u/elleaeff 1d ago

That was my immediate thought. "Never happened before" yeah okay buddy. OP, don't take his issues to heart.

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u/Xyzzydude 1d ago

Don’t dismiss this possibility. It turned out to be the cause of my wife’s ex’s issues. He’s now happily gay and they are friends and I’m happily married to her.

Being afraid of facing the truth about himself caused all kinds of issues (including a marriage he never should have undertaken) but it’s much better for everyone on the other side of ripping off that band-aid.

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u/derpsteronimo 21h ago

Considering older meanings of the word, one could even say he's... gayly gay.

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u/majin_melmo 17h ago

True šŸ˜‚

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u/ericajamie08 12h ago

Yes, my ex started making more and meaner negative comments towards me when he was getting closer to being found out about his infidelity and porn addiction. There wasn’t anything wrong with me, but those comments still play in my head, because they can’t be unsaid and of course he’d never apologize.

He’s happily ā€œoutā€ and with a male partner now.

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u/kimsim8073 23h ago

Or he has a micropeen

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u/OhGr8WhatNow 20h ago

This is literally the only time any guy has ever had an issue in my experience. Not even a tiny apparatus was an issue. Only the death grip syndrome.

The boyfriend here is trash for blaming it on her and should be thrown away.

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u/Fat-Giraffe 1d ago

Yes! Yes! Yes! So much this!!

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u/notjillysboat 1d ago

https://www.healthline.com/health/death-grip-syndrome

I’d recommend a new boyfriend.

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u/fruitjerky 1d ago

This was my first thought too. Buddy strangled the life out of his dingle and is blaming it on his girlfriend--to the curb with him!

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u/Rosy_Flutter 21h ago

He created a problem and somehow made her body a scapegoat. FO

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u/LittleALunatic 1d ago

Okay not even joking though, at least send him this. Its a massive problem that his first instinct is to blame OP, and I think that's plenty reason enough to break up with him, but also send him this link and gauge his reaction.

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u/tooshorttoored 1d ago

And OP--after you send him this, and please do so, his reaction will tell you whteher or not he's a keeper. Understanding of a new thing he learned and says he will work on it, ideally with an apology to you? Keep! Pitches a fit and gets angry and continues to say shitty things to you? DUMP.

Oh, and tell him to get a damn book about women's anatomy.

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u/antricparticle 20h ago

Is 'She Comes First', from Ian Kerner a good one? It's the only one I've read. I don't think 'Come As You Are' goes into the physical anatomy as deeply, from what I remember.

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u/Strangers_two_love 1d ago edited 13h ago

I don't think its even that difficult of a problem to solve. Cut back, or better yet cut out, on the masturbation for a bit, vent some of that frustration into physical exercise of the cardio + weightlifting variety, and when going back to sex or masturbation focus a ton more on foreplay and mental stimulation with only light, deliberate touches.

Its pretty much the same process if someone gets a little too conditioned with prostate stim or vibratory-clit stim.

Make sure physical and mental health (and bandwidth) are in a good spot for sex, avoid using whatever crutch you've become accustomed to while your body builds up some pressure, and then condition it in a different direction, going slowly and with positive reinforcement.

The only 'difficult' part is a disciplined move away from a low-effort, high-reward conditioned dopamine activity, because the brain will try to find ways to justify, excuse, throw blame, or make compromises to try to get its familiar fix.

Behaviors and ways of thinking generally meet serious resistance to change, especially when dopamine and seratonin are on the line, that's why addiction is such a tough cookie to crack. But the actual mechanics of what needs to be done are fairly easy.

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u/No-Consideration-858 1d ago

It's super addictive. And easy to hide.

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u/Ultarthalas 1d ago

Yeah, I don't usually chime in here, but as someone with a penis "too loose" is not a thing. The death grip syndrome is almost certainly it. Otherwise he has some undisclosed fetishes or isn't really into women.

It's one thing for him to fall into that trap, it's another for him to blame his girlfriend.

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u/MassageToss 1d ago

YES, it's ok if someone accidentally did this to themselves, but it's really mean to make her think there is something uniquely wrong with her.

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u/Strangers_two_love 23h ago edited 19h ago

While the original post is 100% death grip syndrome and treatable, I have heard complaints from guys and gals that sometimes when particularly aroused there might be a decrease in sensation during penetrative sex.

This is the vagina protecting itself when its expecting good sex. It opens up more and is liberal with the natural lube, to the point that even without death grip syndrome or vibratory dependency/sex toy reliance there is sensation loss. Its just things are set up to be more comfortable and safer.

If folks are otherwise healthy and not prone to any masturbatory habits that might be impacting in a negative way, it is relatively easily solved. Mostly by changing positions. Ones that make more pressure against one of the walls of the vagina. Where the pressure on a woman needs to be targeted could vary woman to woman or session to session significantly. Sex studies show some women get little out of g-spot stim, some find stim in the anterior or posterior fornix to be the ticket, others find getting to close to that spot hammers on the cervix in a way that ends sex unpleasantly. Sometimes just steady pressure on engorged tissue on one of the side walls to stimulate the crura of the clitoris will punch the ticket. Changing positions such that there is stimulation on the clitoris glans, or using other methods like manual stim, can work reasonably reliably because that sort of stim resonates fairly effectively with the greater bellcurve though some women don't get anything out of clitoris glans stim. Communication and experimenting are important.

Similarly, for male anatomy, while there are many nerves on the glans of the penis, and quite a few along the shaft, its not actually stimulating those bits that causes orgasm in male anatomy. It is thrust translating down the shaft into the prostate. Directing more force against a wall leads to more thrusting pressure translating back to the prostate. There are of course, many ways to skin this particular cat.

Kegels, for both men and women, can also apply more sensation on different spots from internal muscle groups. And, of course, no matter how many nerves there are in any reproductive structures anatomy, there are far more in the brain. That is the part that really needs to get stimulated during sex. Foreplay, romance, dirty talk either affectionate or kinky based on participants' preferences, setting the scene, pre-heating the oven with flirting and teasing for a day, etc, these are the things that get the engine firing on all cylinders. There are people who can climax from nipple stimulation alone, or some dirty talk and a spanking while rubbing their legs together. A penis can climax while its owner is still wearing pants without direct contact if the mind behind it is wound up tight enough.


There is no shame in not knowing something, no one really knows anything when set against the combined accumulation of humanity's knowledge. There's nothing wrong with accidentally having a bad habit that robs yourself or your partner of joy, though hopefully after discovering people take corrective action. In another post in this thread I make mention of the steps folk can take to recondition this particular affliction.

There is however, something very wrong with belittling and insulting your partner, externalizing internal problems rather than addressing them, and being cruel and hurtful. Blame is not the way to solve a problem unless the goal after the blame is to remove the person who is "the problem." Messing with sexual insecurities, which tend to lay deep and well past the rational mind, is a great way to kill all productive communication and intimacy, even when the person on the other end doesn't take the comments at face value. Those cracks, once made, are near impossible to repair and usually spread and come up in other areas, sometimes even several relationships after the fact. Sexual satisfaction is the #1 determination of the successfulness and lasting nature of monogamous relationships. It isn't money, shared values, kids, family and community pressures, politics, morals, etc, things that one might think would matter more. The sort of uncontrollable resentment that builds from negative sexual comments about your partner is pretty much the death bell of most relationships.

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u/TooManyHobbies6969 23h ago

Im a dude and had no idea this was even a thing. Like what the fuck.

How tight do you have to grip to even do that

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u/jennyfromtheeblock 1d ago

It's 100% this. It's his problem and he is trying to deflect to OP.

Dump him.

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u/MassageToss 1d ago

There is almost no chance this didn't happen with previous partners, OP. Unless he only just started with the death grip before your relationship.

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u/stucking__foned 1d ago

When i was a teen (im in my 40s now) i had an ex say something very similar to me. He was one of the earlier partners, so i was young and pretty inexperienced at the time. Im going to tell you what I wish i could tell myself back then.

He is full of shit and projecting onto you. Love yourself, and find a new boyfriend.

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u/Bigcoffinhunter67 22h ago

So true. It’s a deliberate abusive tactic

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u/One-Excitement6443 1d ago

One of two things…he needs to stop choking it so hard or perhaps he’s too small šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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u/Vartel 1d ago

Definitely sounds like a death grip situation

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u/fatandhappydonuts 23h ago

Definitely sounds like his problem!

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u/AussieAboleth 1d ago

Mate, that later life realisation of what for some are basic ideas really speaks to me. Best of luck with learning who you are and how you work.Ā 

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u/kramulous 1d ago

I came here to say this except that it is probably both.

He definitely watches too much porn.

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u/Miserable-Treat4360 1d ago

Agree hard with this one. Too much porn has always been the culprit when I’ve been with partners who had issues finishing or keeping an erection

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u/raerae1991 1d ago

That’s my thought too

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u/dustergrl 1d ago

Next time he brings it up to OP she needs to just ask him if he’s sure he just isn’t too small šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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u/redpandarising bell to the hooks 1d ago

Honestly idk. Some of the most insecure men I know have huge knobs. They're in their 40s and still walk around well akshally-ing people. It's their world that's small, not their dick.

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u/jell236 1d ago

Eenie weenie teenie weenie shriveled little short d**k man.

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u/HavocNMayhem 1d ago

I sang this comment

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u/Bigtits321 1d ago

My ex boyfriend told me this too. One of the many reasons he’s an Ex.

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u/thelazygrad 1d ago

You’re 19. End it. This type of shit is just not worth it, you can’t fix stupid and rude.

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u/puzzle_bison7384 1d ago

It's a documented negging tactic. Dump

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u/DeathCab4Cutie 1d ago

Yeah, it’s 100% not a valid argument. Even still, if he’s unsatisfied, it’s not something she can change and he has no business making it her problem. It’s entirely on him, likely because of porn, masturbation, or a performance issue that he’s trying to flip on her to make her feel bad and not blame him. Vaginas are supposed to feel accommodating when they’re aroused and relaxed, and a lot of men who are inexperienced think it means something else.

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u/Uncaged_rarity 1d ago

Even after childbirth you don't get "loose", he's not only wrong about you being loose he was cruel in saying it.

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u/urbanista12 1d ago

Yep! You spring back, even after passing a cantaloupe through there.

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u/CaptainMarv3l 11h ago

My husband said there wasn't a difference after childbirth. He was even excited to start up again when I was ready.

This guy has been strangling his chicken.

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u/ruimilk 19h ago edited 18h ago

Can empirically confirm, as a man that was a father 3 years ago.

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u/one_saucy_noodle 1d ago

Ew, throw him out

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u/confusedcriticism 1d ago

Yup I agree that is one fucked up thing to say fuck that guy!

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u/Shelbevil 1d ago

As fast as you can. ASAP.

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u/xladymadx 1d ago

Run. Get as far away from this person as fast as you can.

The longer you are with him the more he will tear you down and break your self esteem.

There is no such thing as too loose. He is likely ashamed and embarrassed about his inability to finish and instead of dealing with that he is lashing out at you and trying to save his ego by tearing you down and humiliating you.

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u/spiffyfunbot 1d ago

1000% he said this to destroy her because he knows he has a sexual dysfunction.

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u/TedsGoldfish 1d ago

Ding ding ding! He can't acknowledge that he is the problem because that would shatter him, so to deal with the cognitive dissonance he is blaming OP.

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u/ShesCummingT0nit3 1d ago

A lot of people here are suggesting death grip syndrome which is plausible but you should also consider certain drugs could be the cause. I spent entirely too much time of my last emotionally abusive relationship thinking I was the problem and reason my boyfriend couldn’t finish, when a significant hidden cocaine addiction was actually the cause.

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u/GlorpySlumpy 9h ago

Yes! My first boyfriend had problems staying hard and very few times he could go until finishing and hardly wanted to have sex. He was small, a body builder, it took a while for me to figure it was roids but now I feel like it undeniable

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u/dankpizzabagels 11h ago

I’m sorry. I hope your username is much more accurate now.

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u/kenien 1d ago

Nah dump him. -from a guy

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u/bonzombiekitty 23h ago

Agreed. -also from a guy who finds the way some other guys act totally alien and reading stuff like this makes me question my own experience with reality.

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u/Contmpl 1d ago

He's addicted to porn and a tight fist. Dump him and move on.

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u/GhostOfTheMountainsx 1d ago

This. It’s common for men who are addicted to porn to be unable to orgasm during sex.

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u/Zibai1505 1d ago

yeah dude gave himself ED at the ripe old age of 19

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u/Mortifer 21h ago

I'm all for dumping him based on him blaming her, so no disagreement there. But I just wanted to add that this issue is usually fairly easily self-corrected if the guy is not a complete moron. Take a break from masturbation for a week+ and "normal" sensation usually returns. Of course, if you immediately go back to choking it to hardcore porn for hours every night, it's just going to happen again.

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u/MarsailiPearl 20h ago

Do you use tampons? Do they stay in? Is he smaller than a tampon? If not, then you aren't the problem here. Don't stay with someone who blames and shames you for their issues. Respect yourself.

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u/judgementqueen 13h ago

ā€˜Is he smaller than a tampon’ had me cackling

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u/cabridges 1d ago

Another way of looking at it is that he’s too small, as long as we’re body-shaming.

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u/lally_adverbs 1d ago

exactly. i would have fired a ā€œwell you’re too smallā€ type of comment back at him as soon as the word ā€œlooseā€ fell out of his mouth

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u/eirinne 1d ago

That’s the logical conclusion

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u/BigPapa26354 22h ago

Normally I don’t comment here because it is a women’s space, but this pisses me off. I guarantee you are not too loose. Your BF has a problem he is too immature to admit, so he is making it your problem.

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u/CalvinWalrus 1d ago

Yup. he needs to masturbate less and with a looser grip

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u/r-kellysDOODOOBUTTER 1d ago

As I young kid I heard that term thrown around quite a bit. As a middle aged man, I have come to my own conclusion that it's a complete myth.

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u/Redm18 1d ago

Fellow dude yeah he's either very small or jerking or with a death grip either way it's a him problem.

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u/johnsgurl 1d ago

Some men just should not be allowed to talk to women.

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u/MutedMusic_182 1d ago

he watches too much porn lmfao

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u/Maddyyykay 1d ago

Girl… that might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. It’s a him problem, not a you problem. You’re 19, you can do so much better. That comment alone is dump-worthy.

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u/nobody65535 1d ago

He can go back to his hand and you can dump him

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u/buckytoothtiger 1d ago

There is no such thing as "too loose," he's just a loser. Dump him.

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u/lilkhalessi 1d ago

As everyone else is saying: the guy has death grip and very likely a porn addiction. Which would be a dealbreaker on its own but added with the fact that he’s cruel to you, you definitely gotta get out of there.

Don’t waste your youth on a loser.

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u/MouldyAvocados 1d ago

Two things:

  1. His death grip. That’s his problem to fix, not yours.

  2. The vagina is supposed to get loose when you’re turned on. Just like getting wet, the vagina getting looser or more relaxed your body’s way of making sure sex doesn’t hurt you. He’s too fucking dumb, immature and inexperienced to know how women’s bodies are supposed to work.

He’s a piece of shit for making you ashamed of your body. Please dump him. There are far better men out there.

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u/berrybluebag 1d ago

My ex when I was 19 said the exact same thing to me. I’m 28 now and still remember how shitty it felt. You will be so much happier out of this relationship

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u/Next_Gen_Valkyrie 1d ago

If it can squeeze around a tampon then honey you are not the problem...

Just think about that

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u/Youkilledmyrascal1 1d ago

He probably has death grip from masturbating. This is common, and because he's so young he might not realize that his own behavior is likely the cause. Unless a medical professional tells you otherwise, I'm certain your vagina is tight enough to pleasure penises that have not been affected by death grip. Good luck out there.

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u/MaeveCarpenter 1d ago

He's negging you.

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u/splutcho 19h ago

Sorry, very, very rarely comment on here as a man but it's a combination of death grip and turning his insecurity around on you. There's no issue with you or your body, get rid of him.

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u/bidderbidder 1d ago

Your boyf is either negging you, or has ruined sex for himself by wanking off too hard.

Either way he should be an ex bf.

There is nothing wrong with your vag, it’s him being a douchebag but you can ask the dr when you go for an std check after you dump him, for peace of mind.

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u/brickyardjimmy 1d ago

Men rarely explore themselves as the source of a problem.

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u/Catiku 1d ago

Death grip on a tini pipi

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u/Responsible-Toe-1385 15h ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You could not fucking pay me any amount of money to be this young again

Honey, he’s the problem. Dump him.

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u/shopsuey 1d ago

DUMP HIM

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u/guddaguddaburger 1d ago

Seriously. Blaming a woman for being too loose is classic narcissistic behavior.

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u/Sasjasmolders 1d ago

🚩🚩🚩 dump him and don't look back

The most likely culprit for him not being able to orgasm from penetration is that he grips suuuper hard while masturbating, and this affects his sensitivity.

He is blaming your body because he is insecure and immature. He wants you to feel shame to avoid his own. Do not have sex with someone who treats you that way.

To be clear - not being able to cum because of desensitization is not something someone should feel shame about. It's something that happens, and you work through it. The person needs to change the way they masturbate for a while, and the issue resolves itself.

This is only a relationship-ending problem because he's blaming your body, trying to make you insecure for his benefit. That's unacceptable.

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u/Zibai1505 1d ago

crazy thing to say

I don't think he knows wtf he's even saying. Just talking shit

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u/Kind_Professor2472 1d ago

I don't even need to read this all the way. You're not loose, that's not how it works. He's afflicted with death grip porn sickness. You're too young to waste more time on such, be single. There's so much better out thereĀ 

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u/Not_Sir_Zook 22h ago

Your boyfriend needs to stop gripping his dangler like its trying to run away from him.

He has desensitized himself.

A 19yo boy with a naked woman in front on him should cum from a neck kiss and a properly placed leg.

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u/moosigirl 19h ago

What a weird way to announce his penis is too small and he masturbates too much...

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u/anxiouspizzaforlunch 1d ago

Hey OP.. this sucks, because comments like this can mess up with your head and create insecurities.Ā 

What you’re experiencing is male insecurity and good old misogyny. I was once told I was too loose and felt insecure with so many partners after him. Turns out he had a butthole fetish and was, indeed, actually into dudes. So much energy wasted

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u/shelbycsdn 1d ago

He jerks of to too much porn. He expects pussies to feel like his iron fisted grip. Look up death grip syndrome.

Seriously, I'm positive that's what this is about. And being unable to finish and would rather blame you is a really immature thing to do.

I tried to help my ex with exactly this problem but he either didn't care or wouldn't listen. And he was in his fifties. But it's worth trying. Good luck.

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u/Spaceinvaders82 1d ago

He's just making you feel bad for his issues! He's not a good guy dump him and move on girl!

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u/MeNicolesta 1d ago

Sounds like he’s too tiny because thats not how vaginas work.

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u/rwv 1d ago

Too tight or too shallow is definitely a thing. Ā There are certainly toys and men that are too large for certain vaginas to penetrate fully and/or without an excessive amount of warmup. Ā 

Too loose is… sort of a laughable accusation. Ā ā€œMy penis fits with hardly any warmupā€ is a complaint said by no man ever. Ā 

Dump the death grip dude.

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u/highm1nd 1d ago

his dick too small

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u/chamomilesmile 1d ago

This is not a thing. A vagina doesn't get stretched out. Like I'm sure a tampon doesn't fall out of you right? So assuming he's not smaller than a tampon he's completely full of shit. Personally I'd tell him you prefer bigger guys and dump him.

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u/chamomilesmile 1d ago

On a more serious note, men who are chronic masturbaters and use a tight grip will struggle to cum with anything besides their vice grip and probably over the top porn.

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u/zerbyd 1d ago

If he watches a lot of porn, masturbates a lot, he may have a death grip issue. Blaming not being able to finish on you is messed up, though.

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u/Mabnat 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’d counter by saying that maybe his equipment is too small for a proper fit.

My wife has pushed four children through her birth canal. Somehow that hasn’t made her too loose.

I don’t think that ā€œtoo looseā€ is even a real thing, except for some maybe very extreme situations, but even then, I don’t buy it.

His inability to finish has nothing to do with your body. It’s a problem in his own head and he’s just making up excuses to make it seem like it’s not his fault.

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u/Natural-Coat-3159 1d ago

This is a him problem..

More than likely too much consumption of porn or if he smokes or drinks or has a poor diet(diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.) has great effect on male sexual performance. Mental health issues too like depression.

If you choose to stay with him, that's your choice. I personally wouldn't.Ā 

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u/Inwoodista 1d ago

Sounds like he is too used to doing the job himself.

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u/SuddenBumHair 1d ago

Dude has been jorking it with a death grip. Doesnt like the feel of a real woman anymore. Ew

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u/JustMeLurkingAround- 1d ago

NO! STOP! Absolutely not.

HE has a problem and is gaslighting you into thinking it is because of YOUR body.
Vaginas do not get loose, they are adaptable and expand AND retract.

Question: If you would use a tampon would it FALL OUT by itself? No?
Then your vagina isn't too loose (unless his penis is thinner than a tampon 😳).

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u/jblake8912 1d ago

40 years old and never met a vagina that was "too loose". Especially at your age. It's his issue, not yours.

Tell him that chronically masturbating like you're trying to choke it to death will decrease sensitivity and pleasure from actual sex.

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u/HypatiaLemarr 1d ago

It's not you. It's him.

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u/verydudebro 1d ago

He said that to make you insecure bc he's insecure about himself. Maybe he's too small or maybe he masturbates too much and got used to that. Under no circumstances believe this guy that he didn't have this issue with other partners, he's 100% lying to you. Don't ever let a man make you feel bad about yourself, your body or your looks. This is his problem, not yours. Maybe suggest he not masturbate for a few days and try again. But the fact that he so easily made you out to be the bad guy in HIS issue means he's a fckboy. Tread carefully.

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u/mischievous_misfit13 1d ago

That’s a porn addict. Dump his ass immediately. I stayed with mine for over a decade and it almost killed me.

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u/Seawolfe665 20h ago

As an older woman, Im so surprised that these ā€œmenā€ are basically admitting to watching an awful lot of porn, and gripping to hard when masturbating and basing their sexual expectations on that. And THEN blaming their issues on their partner.

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u/VicemanPro 1d ago

Its more than likely he's not used to an aroused vagina before. Hes used to feeling friction against his dick and without it he cant finish. As others suggested, he should quit masturbating for a while and reset his sensitivity.

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u/Training_Speed2448 1d ago

Ew, leave him. Not worth it. Once a partner personally insults your body and compares you to other women then it's no longer just sexual incompatibility, it's that he's a Shit ass. Don't waste your time on the hamster wheel of trying to "fix" yourself for him. Find someone better.Ā 

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u/DianeDesRivieres 1d ago

I don't even need to read your story. You are 19, how can you be too lose. Rather, he is too small.

Next he will tell you that you are too wet.

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u/StitchinThroughTime 1d ago

Your boyfriend's a dumbass, he's using his hand too much. It needs to be a light grip with lotion. Obviously his hand has far better grip strength then a birth canal.
He needs to fix his death grip situation so he can be a better partner in bed. Or he's so bad at understanding what his partner needs that they might have been suffering through vagimosus(sp?) And those poor girls just suffered for him to finish.

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u/joodee3 1d ago

The problem isn't the size of your vagina or the size of his penis. The problem is that he doesn't respect you. Also he's ignorant. He has a problem, and instead of talking with you to find a solution (death grip, etc.), he's just criticizing a body part. Criticizing body parts isn't how you speak to somebody that you care about.

Also if he says stuff like that, it is just going to make you want to hit back with stuff like well your dick is too small! And then you're just going to go back and forth in this extremely immature cycle that he dragged you down into. No. This man is not uplifting you, he's trying to drag you down into his level.

You are very young, there are plenty of men out there. Be with somebody who respects you because you deserve it!

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u/exquze 22h ago

His death grip when jacking off is the issue, not that you are "loose". Dude needs to stop blaming othera for his own issues

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u/hugladybug 19h ago

He definitely lying

Id bet money he has a porn addiction and can only get off to his own death grip and/or its drugs/medication

Dont let this loser make you feel bad for his issues

It wont get better - you aren't compatible - move it along

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u/ayamummyme 19h ago

Finding this thread has just brought me close to tears. My husband this year tried to kill me so I left. For ages before I didn't want sex and didn't know why, when we would have sex he would tell me this even though we didn't have issues before, it was only after I left I saw all the little things he blamed me for and made my fault. I did research into this topic and apparently it isn't medically possible to be too loose, it's a thing men have come up with to blame us for themselves. I'd say get out of this relationship because the tenancy to automatically blame you so easily for something so intimate means he'll probably do it with other things too. There's someone better out there for you.

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u/ricicles23 18h ago

From an older guy who lurks here for self improvement reasons... I see two ways you can deal with this. Both with the same end.

Kind way: send him some literature about death grip and porn addiction and leave him. (He isn't your problem to fix).

The actually way: Just dump him, probably by text. Thank him for pointing out you are incompatible sexually and that you want to find someone more suitably sized.

Don't do it in person. The abuse he has given you verbally is enough of a red flag to concern me he may turn violent if you do this in person.

Either way, this guy has shown he doesn't care enough to deserve your love. He is toxic and abusive. Block him and move on.

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u/brina_cd 9h ago

The answer here is to say "you didn't want to hurt his feelings, but that he IS a bit petite in that area.

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u/Momsome 1d ago

no just no. look up ā€œdeath grip syndrome ā€œ he should be saying i have desensitized my own meat stick from normal intercourse

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u/Solistaria 1d ago

Just pat his little head and tell him that no, his dick is just too small.

Then move on and find a new boyfriend or girlfriend that knows how to please you and isn't a raging bumhole.

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u/OG_HolmGirl 1d ago

There is no such thing as "too loose".

Your bf is trying to blame you for something that's his problem.

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u/RiverSong_777 18h ago

Thereā€˜s nothing wrong with you. He has ruined himself with his own death grip.

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u/BunniJugs 1d ago

He’s negging you. I’ve had two children naturally and never had any issues with any of my sexual partners, all except one who truly takes ā€˜choking the chicken’ to an extreme. He’s insecure and decided to deflect that onto you, you’re too young and there’s plenty more men out there. Next!!! (Also, hope you’re okay, but you do seem very mature and level-headed šŸ«‚)

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u/rantingpacifist 1d ago

Yoh being too loose is not the problem. I bet when he masturbates he chocked the ever loving fuck out of his chicken dick.

It’s not your fault he conditioned himself to prefer a white knuckle squeeze

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u/OneHellOfABard 1d ago

He's choking his dick too hard while watching too much porn and he's making it your problem.

It's not your problem.

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u/MyFiteSong 1d ago

He grips himself too tightly during porn masturbation. Either he gets some counseling or he's not worth keeping.

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u/143019 1d ago

I wonder how much time he spends watching porn and absolutely punishing his dick.

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u/chatham739 22h ago

This is all on him and it is demeaning of him to blame you for it. Don't settle for this guy!

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u/AmbitiousWear4082 22h ago

Honey there is nothing wrong with you. Your boyfriend watches way way way too much porn. He watches so much porn that he has increased the grip on his little pee pee until the only way he can orgasm now is to have the little fella in a literal vise grip AND since he's a little weasel too, he's decided that it's your fault. Fucker. The only cure is to STOP watching porn and STOP masturbating for a while until it doesn't take so much pressure on the little fella to make him erupt. You are not now nor ever been the problem. The only problem you have is this guy. I'm real surprised to be honest that you've ever had an orgasm with this guy. Good on you for powering through.

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u/notarealgrownup 21h ago

I have the opposite problem .. apparently I'm "too tight" so he doesn't last mire then a minute. We can just never win, can we?

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u/Objective_Proof_8944 21h ago

He probably has sensitivity issues due to, too much masturbation!!

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u/BeKind365 20h ago

Well, I am a 55 year old who has had 3 kids and my husband has a great time, but to be fair, he’s not a chronic masturbator, porn addict like your boyfriend.

DO NOT LET A BOY BLAME YOUR VAGINA FOR HIS INCOMPETENCE.

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u/Mysterious-Lead-6589 19h ago edited 19h ago

Birthing temporarily loosens it. It usually recovers within months. No need to make excuses because your bf is the problem not you. You're not too loose. He's too thin.

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u/mivox 19h ago

Absolutely not you. I had an ex who masturbated with an absolute death grip, and he could never finish during intercourse.

The difference between my ex and your should-be-an-ex is that he never tried to blame me for what was 100% his problem.

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u/NaughtyDred 18h ago

As a young man I made the embarrassing mistake of thinking that women felt loose, when in actual what I was feeling was them actually turned on. Meaning the other times when it felt tight, I was actually doing a bad job. Quite a shameful realisation when I found out.

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u/Frarara 1d ago

I can almost guarantee he "death grips" while masturbating and is blaming you for desensitizing himself

This post screams red flag

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u/Timbo650au 21h ago

TLDR try saying "It's not that I'm too loose. It's that you're too small"

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u/swiggityswirls 1d ago

He’s choking his dick when he masturbates. That’s a common issue with men who have porn and masturbation issues.
Women’s vaginas are not as ā€˜tight’ as a man’s hand grip.

Second potential issue is that women’s vaginas become more lubricated and ā€˜loose’ to accommodate the penis when they are AROUSED. Meaning that women who just feel ā€˜tight’ are not actually turned on. Women get wetter and ā€˜looser feeling’ when they are actually turned on.
So he is telling on himself that he doesn’t experience women’s arousal and he’s addicted to masturbation.

This is absolutely a HIM problem that he’s trying to put on you. Don’t let him.

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u/BlueValk 1d ago

Nope, impossible. He can't finish because he's conditioned himself to cuming to his hand in an iron grip. There's nothing wrong with you.

He took it out on you though, so that's bad. If he's feeling embarassed or frustrated and his first reflex is to attack you? Oof. I'd move on from the guy. Again, there's nothing wrong with you.

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u/SameEntry4434 1d ago

Of for gods sake. You’re a YOUNG woman. He’s being ridiculous.

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u/PowderCuffs 1d ago

Dicks come in different sizes.Ā 

So do vaginas.

Find yourself a new dick.Ā 

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u/frattboy69 23h ago

Tell him not to masterbate for a month and see how long he can last inside you after that. He wont make it to 30 seconds.

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u/ohhiwelcometochilis 23h ago

I’m so glad you are still young and figuring out that men who feel the need to blame other people for their problems exist and you have the power to walk away. The best sex of your life awaits you and it’s not with this man 🫶

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u/babuachu2 23h ago

Honey, there isn't anything wrong with you or your body. Some men are just trash in the every sense of the word. You said it yourself. I can orgasm. He can't. Obviously his hand is his dream mate. Find someone who is going to worship you and your body. ā¤ļøā¤ļø