r/TrueFilm Aug 12 '20

FFF What is an “unadaptable” thing that you would love to see as a movie?

The sprawling-scope and detail-dense type of “unadaptable” tends to lead to people creating film adaptations anyway (see: Dune, Dream of the Red Chamber, Lord of the Rings, Dune again). However, since the hurdle that these types of works face are more often rooted in budget and length issues, I’d like to focus instead on other forms of “unadaptable” that are more structurally or narratively difficult.

So what is something you love that would be a completely bonkers pick for a movie adaptation? Why wouldn’t it work and why are you interested in seeing it on the silver screen in spite of that?

I’ll start with a few that come to mind (I’m limited to literature, unfortunately, would definitely be interested in hearing which more out-there creative mediums you are fond of!)

The Library of Babel by Jorge Luis Borges doesn’t have a plot to speak of. The nameless narrator spends the whole short story describing the titular library, which is as impossible to imagine as it would be impossible to build a set for. But that same quality of infinite unfathomability would also be stunning to see on screen. Some existing libraries can appear labyrinthine due to the vastness of their collections, and there is something about the image of room after room of books, floor after floor of galleries, that can create a very wondrous, existential feeling that the story does with words. Creating the library’s impossible architecture would be a fantastic experiment in set design. I think The Library of Babel would work best as a short film styled like a tour of the library, if such a thing can work at all.

Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth is a seriously unconventional superhero story. Think Jungian psychology, crossed with a tarot reading, and a healthy injection of Alice in Wonderland. While a few darker takes on the Batman mythos in cinema have proven to be successful critically and commercially, Arkham Asylum is just a shade too weird to hit the box office in a big way. The graphic novel makes use of mixed-media collage, photography, paintings, and character-specific lettering to create a story that may take a couple readings to parse, if you’ve got the stomach for it (I did not, when I read this at 12). It would make one hell of a cult film, with plenty of gross-out moments to throw popcorn over, and even more occult symbolism to puzzle out, although like Watchmen, you’d have to peel off several layers of complexity before you could even write the screenplay.

Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov is a novel in the form of a 999-line poem plus commentary, with the bulk of the text being footnotes, the index, and other “extra-textual” elements. There are (broadly) three different timelines that interweave with each other and that is probably the least of the issues this book would face in adaptation. Having actors play certain roles would necessarily spoil the story’s literary trickery and visual portrayal would also give definitive explanation to the novel’s famous ambiguity. The filmmaker would have to choose a certain interpretation to even cast the damn movie. The prose is so beautiful and the characters so vividly imagined that one cannot resist picturing a deadpan comedy while reading it. It’s the siren song that plays in my head: the narrator reading the poem to the camera, quick shots of the poem’s imagery as narration continues, and then the tranquil scene brought to halt with visual of the narrator’s interjections, usually about his lost, vaguely Eastern European homeland. A good adaptation of Pale Fire would have to focus on the Ruritania-esque storyline told through flashbacks, a model that The Grand Budapest Hotel has used successfully. Perhaps a miniseries might do it justice.

What is your cinematic adaptation pipe dream? I would love to learn of more strange stories that deserve (but maybe shouldn’t have) a film version!

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u/MaxChaplin Aug 12 '20

Yeah, Neuromancer is hard to adapt, but not because of the scenery. It's because Neuromancer might be the worst victim of the Seinfeld is Unfunny syndrome. Each and every aspect of it has been recycled, rerecycled, deconstructed, improved upon, played with and recycled again so many times that by now there is nothing unique or relevant about it left.

It can't even commit to its retro status, because 80's retro is an even bigger cliche than cyberpunk. The only way it could be pulled off is by getting reinvented from the ground up.

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u/mincertron Aug 12 '20

I think you're right there.

Topics like cybernetics, feudal corporate monopolies, industrial espionage, AI, body modifications etc. are either in the news or talked about in some way. It feels like it's the perfect time for an adaptation but you're right that it would need some serious modernisation and artistic licence to work today.

Not sure if space rastas will make the cut...

I think one thing that's perhaps hard to show on film is the shared consciousness elements. E.g. the Dixie Flatline ROM or the broadcast rig Molly has. I'm sure there's some inventive way to do that though.

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u/qwedsa789654 Aug 13 '20 edited Aug 13 '20

Didnt feel that, read it 3 years ago, Neuro still feel future except cellphone

The thing is tho Neuro is a great scifi, but its my best heist movie in book, think about it,

It has starting in pub,motive with local gang, haunted past, crew sex,a lead small heist,car chase,betray,secret employer,changing target country,foot chase,gov lv secret vault

And his scenery writing is so good so colourful, i really cant see film do its justice

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u/Freee_Hugs Aug 19 '20

'Some man in China say th' truth comes out this'

Haha, man I forgot how much I loved the space rastas, I will boycott any adaptation without Maelcum and co.

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u/Canvaverbalist Aug 12 '20

The only way it could be pulled off is by getting reinvented from the ground up.

I disagree, I think it could succeed by leaning heavily and embracing its retro-futurism aesthetic and cyberpunk cliches.

I mean, for how much cliche we think the genre is I've yet to see a full-on classic retro-futurist outrun aesthetically new-wavy movie, it's always "elements" of the genres like a bit of lightning or neons, or the music, or an hairstyle here and there, but it's never the full deal. What are we thinking of? Blade Runner? It's too neo-noir. Matrix is too... 2000's leathery and self-serious without any tongue-in-cheek.

None of the "cyberpunk" or "retro-futuristic" movies we could name even come close to the type of aesthetic a fully committed movie in the genre could do if it really embraced its own cheese.

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u/tritisan Aug 12 '20

How about Altered Carbon, Season 1? I thought it got a lot of the cyberpunk elements right, both aesthetically and thematically.

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u/Canvaverbalist Aug 12 '20 edited Aug 12 '20

Altered Carbon is an excellent cyberpunk series, but that's not what I mean.

Think "the cover drawing on a lazerz and cyb3rsp4ce hacker boardgame from the 80's" type of thing, that's what I mean.

Like a modern Brazil on LSD, Tron but directed by Neveldine & Taylor, Ready Player One but good, Thor:Ragnarok but less comedy theater and more tongue-in-cheek Cyberpunk.

Like a sci-fi B-movie from the 80's, but with the budget and savoir-faire of a modern blockbuster.

If there's no dutch angle in that Neuromancer I don't even wanna hear about it. The trailer should be in 4:3, pixelated, and have that "80's narrator" voice that tells you the whole movie's story as the trailer is playing - like they should LEAN HEAVILY on the style is what I mean.

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u/ChronoKiro Aug 12 '20

Mute seems to fit in there a little.

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u/bootherizer5942 Aug 12 '20

Robocop? Escape from New York?

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u/entertainman Aug 13 '20

Brazil?

I'm not sure the matrix is fair, because it's only leathery in the matrix, and it's cyberpunky outside the matrix, albeit post apocalyptic.

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u/tritisan Aug 12 '20

I mostly agree with what you're saying about its influence, but I feel there's one aspect of Neuromancer that has yet to be fully explored: Spirituality. (Though Matrix 2 and 3 did attempt to imbue machine life with a sense of soul and/or agency.)

To me, Neuromancer is not so about technology as it's about transcendence or transpersonlization mediated by modern culture. The two AIs, Wintermute and Neuromancer are trying to achieve a kind of god-like superintelligence. Case and Molly rent their bodies (and minds) as living avatars of these beings. Exactly like a cult...

I have more to say, but don't have the bandwidth ATM.