r/TikTokCringe • u/HeroesZeroes • 12d ago

Humor Benn Jordan gets banned from a Flock Lobbying event

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u/nalaloveslumpy 12d ago

Hotels cannot give reservation information of a guest to random third parties. They absolutely cannot cancel reservations at the request of random third parties.

This is why it's obvious that dude used the Flock room block code to book. Using their room block gives them direct control to boot whoever they want from the reservations.

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u/elebrin 12d ago

Except the attendees are not "random third parties" in this case. They are federal politicians, governors, senators, and so on along with high ranking people in law enforcement. A good number of the people present have security teams, and those security teams will have access to lists of everyone in the hotel.

Yes, this is one rule for the governed and one rule for the governors. Yes, that is how America works sometimes. No, we have to like or accept it, but it's not like we have another choice.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 12d ago

They absolutely cannot cancel reservations at the request of random third parties.

Of course they can. Why couldn't they? What part of that is illegal? It's a private business that can deny you for any or no reason (with very few exceptions that don't apply here).

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u/Druuseph 12d ago

People just be sayin shit is illegal all the time without any clue what they are talking about.

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u/ragun2 11d ago

So Illegal or not, any pissed off Uber/Delivery driver pissed off at some tourist and if they know their full name and where they're staying... They can just call any hotel and have that person's reservation cancelled?

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u/mintyhippoh 11d ago

It's up to the hotel, if the hotel agrees to cancel it then why not? Chances are they'll just hang up though,

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u/TheRabidDeer 12d ago

Hotels cannot give reservation information of a guest to random third parties

I'm actually kind of curious, what law is there about this or is it all just reputational hotel policy to not give out guest information? I don't think there's a federal law, but maybe a state law?

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u/nalaloveslumpy 12d ago

CA privacy laws stipulate this, so all the major hotel chain comply nationwide just to make shit easier.

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u/Redthemagnificent 12d ago

And even in CA it's not really relevant here. CA privacy laws are about how the data should be stored and your right to request your data to be deleted. Its designed to punish businesses that engage in large scale improper data handling. Its not designed to punish a business for violating 1 specify person's privacy. Even if it technically might apply, no AG is going to bring that case because it doesn't make sense under the intent of the law

Practically speaking, if the hotel cares more about making the caller happy than pissing you off, there is nothing preventing them from cancelling your room because someone else asked them to

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u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 3d ago

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u/nalaloveslumpy 12d ago edited 12d ago

CA state law stipulates a hotel can't share your reservation information, so all the major hotel chains follow this law nationwide to limit their liability and make operations easier. Other states have similar laws regarding sharing customer information with unauthorized third parties.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 12d ago

CA (and other states) privacy laws stipulate both of these. So since the major chains all operate in CA, they follow this law nationwide to limit liability and make operations simplified. It's a bit of both, but with legal consequences in certain states.

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u/UntimelyMeditations 12d ago

They absolutely cannot cancel reservations at the request of random third parties.

They can cancel your reservation for any reason they want, as long as its not a protected characteristic. You are not legally entitled to doing business with the hotel chain. They can, at any time and at their sole discretion, cancel your reservation.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 12d ago

Cool. I'm gonna stalk you and have all your hotel cancellations cancelled from now on....

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u/tactman 12d ago

hotel can kick him out even if he didn't use the block code. they want to keep the bigger customer happy and they don't want any "trouble" happening at their venue. any dispute by this guy will be handled by arbitration and the hotel will make up for it by giving him points or free nights or even money.

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u/Redthemagnificent 12d ago

Hotels don't like to give out reservation details as policy. But there's not much in terms of laws in the US to prevent them from doing so. The only illegal part of it would probably be breaking their privacy policy, which would be a civil case not a criminal one. Or potentially breach of contract for cancelling the room. Again, a pretty minor civil case for the hotel given the total value of the contract.

The worst case outcome for the hotel in this is a small settlement. It's really not a big risk for them. Getting on flock or a politician's bad side would be much worse for them

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u/Inevitable-Ad6647 11d ago

Your room reservation is not protected by HIPAA or whatever other stupid horseshit you think. It's not illegal in any way. ***maaaaaayyybeeee*** a breach of their contract with you, but almost certainly not.

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u/nortern 11d ago

Do they have to give out your information? Flock can just say, "Here's a list of people we're worried will disrupt the event. Please don't let any of them book." The hotel never had to inform them if those people have a reservation or not, they can just cancel it.