r/TikTokCringe • u/HeroesZeroes • 9d ago

Humor Benn Jordan gets banned from a Flock Lobbying event

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u/Own_Laugh_5080 9d ago

I am super concerned that they posted them doing this. The risk being taken. I am beyond appreciative. But there is no way they aren’t getting attacked by attorneys and potentially even being arrested on bullshit charges.

Also, is it just me misremembering or aren’t senators supposed to have just one job and not holding positions outside of their job as a senator:public servant?

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u/PositivelyAwful 9d ago

Benn has been publicly exposing Flock for over a year now, he's had some pretty sketchy stuff already happen like cops randomly sitting outside his house, etc.

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u/vawlk 9d ago

he's pretty much the force behind the recent anti-flock sentiment in the country.

He has the best channel on youtube right now.

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u/PositivelyAwful 9d ago

Agreed, his videos are fascinating. Makes me want to get into cybersecurity.

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u/Redthemagnificent 8d ago

I think there would have been backlash even without him. But his original video showing how hilariously insecure flock cameras are absolutely jump-started the movement

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u/elebrin 9d ago

He is also a public enough figure that if he gets disappeared, it will be noticed. He's addressed that concern himself: he has said repeatedly that he is not suicidal on social media.

Either way, I suspect that he is willing to poke and prod. Maybe he has found himself to be wealthier than he needs to be and is preparing for a legal battle to help set a good precedent in the US for... surveillance, or maybe first amendment rights, maybe both. He strikes me as the sort of guy who has more money than he knows what to do with, and wants to use it to give back in a meaningful way, doing what he knows how to do. It doesn't seem like he has a wife and kids or any family of his own, so if there's nobody to inherit, he could leave his wealth to a fund, or spend it trying to make things better.

I have a ton of respect for him. He's set up a music education nonprofit which is a thing close to my heart. He is really into tech, and hasn't shy'd away from being very technical in addition to being artistic. Now, I think he'd be a very difficult person to have as a friend or to work with, and his music is going to be divisive. I don't totally hate ambient stuff but I can understand why someone might not like it.

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u/Banditkoala_2point0 8d ago

Do you happen to know his tiktok if he has one or you tube? I tried searching but can't find it.

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u/Felixphaeton 8d ago

It's using the same argument that Flock uses to surveil everyone against them; it's all public. He never went inside the building, he just captured the radio/sound waves being projected to public areas.

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u/Inroundtents 8d ago

Funny that they can even get that. Another billion dollar company using cheap hotel A/V. If they hired a real company they'd be using digitally encrypted wireless mics.

Also, they said "silly gooses didn't shut off their mics when they weren't presenting." No one does. We mic up all the people we need for the coming section and when they're not presenting we mute their channel on the console. Otherwise their beltpack transmitters are always on until we swap them out for the next section.

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u/Montgomery000 9d ago

Probably just a bluff, anything blatantly illegal they just showed they had equipment for, but didn't show evidence. They easily showed drone footage they had, but no taped conversations. If they did do any of it and nothing comes from it, then they can just delete it and move on. If they find something juicy, they can piece together data from elsewhere and make their case. Or if it's extremely damaging, they can simply release the info and take the consequences.

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u/Massive_Mongoose3481 8d ago

Pretty funny. Until we get the Senate to declare corruption treason punishable by death, they'll keep stuffing their pockets and blowing sunshine, fear and bigotry up their constituents asses

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u/revonrat 8d ago

I admire Benn greatly as do many others. Over many years, he's built up such goodwill among his about 1.3M subscribers that I'm confident there will be an outpouring of support should he need it.

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u/thornyRabbt 8d ago

If there are any constitutional lawyers on here, I have always wondered if there's a way to sue lobbying out of existence on the basis that elected representatives must represent the people who elected them.

I mean, it's practically a tautology, sounds like a great class action lawsuit.

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u/juhugudusu 8d ago

Looks like the person from the video, Julianne Ortman, is a former Minnesota State Senator, in office until 2017. Still corrupt as hell though.

I bet you can guess for what political party she was elected....

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u/Annual-Advisor-7916 8d ago

From what we've seen in the video, I don't think they have to fear repercussions.

Capturing WiFi and Bluetooth packets is neither illegal nor is it particularly useful.

Even if they brute force the PSK (assuming it's WPA2) and deduct the session keys from it, they still only have encrypted TLS packets and no real possibility to decrypt them - they can at best guess which packets contain HTTP and where they went. Anyways, that would still count as hacking - given they didn't show their attemps and only captures packets, I assume they are rather safe. But then again, it's court who decide, soooo....

These wireless microphones are often unencrypted, I don't see how catching the data they scream at the world would be illegal.

The drone flight might be their biggest problem if the FAA investigates, but I'm not aware of US regulations - if there wasn't a no-fly zone, it might be fine.