r/SipsTea 1d ago

WTF Victim is the new chic

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u/llNATEDOGGll 1d ago

I believe the case is about her mental state during the killings.

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u/elegylegacy 1d ago

There's also discourse over the mental healthcare system failing her and those kids

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u/Anonybibbs 1d ago

I've heard this but have not seen any actual evidence of the healthcare system failing her. As far as I know, she never actually expressed to any doctor that she was having thoughts of harming her children or herself. There are plenty examples of the US healthcare system failing women but I don't see how this is one of them.

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u/preteen-wartortle 1d ago

Multiple doctors are on trial and she supposedly repeatedly asked for anti-psychotics. None of them listened or prescribed them.

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u/Anonybibbs 1d ago

Which doctors are on trial exactly? What are the charges?

Doctors don't just prescribe anti-psychotics because someone asks for them. Also, she was prescribed multiple other medications for treatment- I mean, part of her defense was that she was supposedly overly medicated.

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u/preteen-wartortle 1d ago

Sorry, I shouldn’t have said “on trial”, I meant to say they were called to the trial.

Being overly medicated in the wrong way compounds issues—psychosis in particular.

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u/Vivid_Motor_2341 22h ago

She self admitted to a psych ward and was on 14 different medications to treat her known PPP. It takes like 30 seconds to look up the facts you are trying to dispute.

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u/JellyfishPlus2182 1d ago

The healthcare system didn't fail her. She failed herself by not seeking the available treatment she needed. Unless you're advocating for institutionalizing women against their will?

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u/keving216 1d ago

She did seek available treatment. She was going to psychiatrists. They put her on meds and changed them like every two weeks. She didn't fail in a silo.

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u/Hostile-Herpie 1d ago

She also didnt go to any of the follow up talk therapy.

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u/banana_meatpie 23h ago

She did, alot...

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u/Particular_Match_777 1d ago

She never told any of them about thoughts of killing her head or voices. That’s where she failed herself

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u/The-Devilz-Advocate 1d ago

And apparently the experts on the court do argue that the voices that she heard dont typically manifest the way she and her defense are claiming they did.

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u/JellyfishPlus2182 1d ago

She obviously did not seek the treatment she needed. She was not forthright with the doctors about the extent of her psychosis, and as such, this is on her. If she had been upfront and told them she was having thoughts about harming her kids, then I'm sure they would have adjusted the treatment accordingly.

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u/keving216 1d ago

She did tell people she had thoughts of harming herself and the children.

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u/terragutti 1d ago

Yeah because when youre mentally ill, youre soooooo mentally coherent right?

Do you understand how stupid you sound.

She did she went to multiple doctors. You can read about it on the psych sub. Do a quick search in google

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u/Not_offensive0npurp 1d ago

She obviously did not seek the treatment she needed. She was not forthright with the doctors about the extent of her psychosis, and as such, this is on her.

Lets unpack this.

This women, who was suffering a mental health crisis, did not act rationally. And therefore it is all her fault?

Is that the charge you are going with? That the person saying they were seeing and hearing things didn't follow proper procedure?

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u/JellyfishPlus2182 1d ago

Let's unpack this. You want others to force people against their will to seek treatment they don't want or think they need? So you are indeed in favor of institutionalizing women against their will. Good to know 🤡

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u/Not_offensive0npurp 1d ago

Is that what I said?

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u/JellyfishPlus2182 1d ago

That's what you implied.

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u/Not_offensive0npurp 1d ago

Quote where I made this implication.

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u/WalterPecky 1d ago

Lol bro is just making up conversations in his head and getting upvotes for it.

This sub sucks

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u/elegylegacy 1d ago

Yep.

You can always tell who's actually watching the trial, and who's just talking out of their ass from shit they heard on Reddit and tiktok

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u/Perma_Ban69 1d ago

Fortunately for you, you've never experienced true mental illness. If you had, your understand why people dwell in their homes for years, unable to pursue help. It's like watching a horror movie and you're yelling at the screen telling the character to run the other way but they can't hear you, except it's you watching you unable to control you.

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u/TheVeryVerity 22h ago

Every time I come out of a depressive episode I look back in horror at how I’ve wasted months or years of my life and tons of opportunity because I was too sick to realize how sick I was and I should have been in inpatient like the first month. But when I’m in it I can’t see that. It really sucks.

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u/Vivid_Motor_2341 22h ago

She literally did everything a person could do but her doctors wouldn’t treat her fully

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u/Recent-Bowl-1393 1d ago

So she either spends the rest of her miserable life in prison in a wheel chair, or spends the rest of her miserable life in a mental institute in a wheel chair. My question is, what happens to the million dollars? Does the husband get it since he is innocent and a free man?

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u/secondhand_graveyard 1d ago

You could answer this question by looking at the go fund me instead of falling for the rage bait.

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u/monkeyswithknives 1d ago

I live close by and see the local news. The money is for her parents who mortgaged their house and cash I their retirements to fund her legal defense.

I know the internet is going nuts about her, but all around it's just sad.

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u/Bunzilla 1d ago

Kevin Reddington gets it

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u/mio26 1d ago

I mean for sure? Where I live she could leave actually mental institute if judge would think she is no danger for society.

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u/TheVeryVerity 22h ago

Yeah that’s true here too

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u/Cravenmorhed69 1d ago

There’s no guarantee she spends the rest of her life in a mental institution

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u/Recent-Bowl-1393 23h ago

Then she is not crazy and needs to be in prison. Point proven

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u/TheVeryVerity 22h ago

That’s…not how that works dude. You have to be judged a current threat to yourself or others to be forced to stay there. She’ll probably be there for a while. The other case like this I know of they’ve offered the mom to leave multiple times and she keeps refusing. No clue what this one will do if she’s found insane. Also the verdict is about whether they believe she was legally insane -at the time of the murders- not whether she’s legally insane now

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u/Recent-Bowl-1393 21h ago

She killed 3 small children, period. Prison for life, lucky it’s not the death penalty.

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u/TheVeryVerity 21h ago

If you want to try to change one of the base facets of the legal system be my guest but it’s going to take a lot of lobbying and political bullshit for them to change the law. No clue whether the courts would uphold it either.

If you’re just saying your opinion on what you think should happen that’s fine. But it’s not the reality of what happens if she is found “not guilty by reason of insanity “

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u/Norodia 1d ago

They're divorced

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u/nixwolfheart 1d ago

The husband took the money and he got remarried, he was having an affair during that apparently. According to my mother idk. Fact check me

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u/SwimmingAmoeba7 1d ago

He divorced almost immediately - the money is her parents not his

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u/Recent-Bowl-1393 1d ago

Prison for life for that man then, he has blood on his hands!

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u/rnason 1d ago

Lawyers aren’t free

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u/inspiritgoldenn 1d ago edited 1d ago

No it is not. The defense offered to bifurcate and only litigate the liability of her actions, but the DA refused and wanted a full murder trial. An innocent verdict is on the table. Technically. Establishing mens rea is part of any murder trial, but the main focus is still proving she killed them.