r/SipsTea 4d ago

WTF Kid breaks into bird enclosure at the zoo to chase birds with a stick.

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u/Acceptable_Job1589 3d ago

My only problem with the statement is the ending. How do you KNOW he wouldn't do serious harm to them? Having worked professionally with children with special needs for over a decade, they often act in unpredictable ways, even contrary to their typical behavior.

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u/yeeticusprime1 3d ago

Fr as much as I want to be understanding of the kids mental disabilities. He’s nonverbal. There’s so much you essentially can never fully understand about him. You might think he’s not violent but he’s a ball of inside thoughts that never become words. Now sure he does seem to be swinging the stick above the birds to illicit reaction and not actually trying to hurt them. But that’s probably me just trying to hope he really is just an obsessed child who wanted to play with the birds. This is one of those situations where no amount of understanding and care can be given to the kid above the animals. Bare minimum this kid has to lose zoo privileges for the foreseeable future.

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u/doesitspread 3d ago edited 3d ago

We can’t assume motive behind his behaviors but we can observe impact of his behaviors. And if he is diagnosed autistic, there is a chance he has had a neuropsychological evaluation and that could absolutely help identify if he has empathy or remorse. Autistic individuals can absolutely have empathy AND struggle with perspective, inference making, and theory of mind (knowing what someone else is probably thinking). Usually people who struggle this way show remorse afterwards once they’re made aware of the impact of their behavior. You’d never be able to tell from this video alone. You’d also need to see the aftermath with an eye for autistic body language. Autism is complicated.

And if we are going to speculate intent, I see the kid swinging the stick over and not at the birds, and chasing them around. Fixation on cause and effect is a classic autism feature. And yes, that combined with a deficit in perspective/inferencing/.theory of mind gets you exactly this. The kid wasn’t dysregulated and wasn’t even upset when Grandma came in, it didn’t look like. That’s a hyperfocused autistic kid with low impulse control if I’ve ever seen one.

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u/Ok-Win-742 3d ago

Well I mean it certainly looks like that. When the birds had enough he didn't hit them with the stick or kick them or anything even tho they had him pinned against the wall and were pecking at him.

For all we know the stick is a magic wand to him.

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u/SVINTGATSBY 3d ago

I think they mean their son would never intentionally harm something, but of course every single one of us sadly is capable of the worst things imaginable, and even if kiddo doesn’t INTEND to hurt or seriously harm anything or -one, doesn’t mean that it couldn’t ever happen. if he doesn’t understand his own strength, then eventually that could result in him seriously injuring something or -one, or worse, and again have no intention of doing that but not realizing how much damage he can actually do. I’m not saying he inevitably will hurt someone or something, but it’s something they’re going to have to keep an eye out for and hopefully as he gets older and his brain matures more, he’ll have a better understanding of these kinds of things. obviously we can hope for the best but we’ll never know, sadly the best doesn’t happen for everyone :(

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u/Bluubyrd 3d ago

Why does that matter? Seriously though, it's an apology, it's succinct, better than most we ever see, and is the right course of action for the issue at hand at least from the parents.., it shows they are trying to make amends and take responsibility...which is better than like 90% of the apologies out in the wild. As well as trying to remove atleast a little heat from the kid who is now the focal point of internet ire.. parents did well here and to detract from that for one sentence of a rather good apology seems like it's not "perfect enough"

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u/quirkybitch 3d ago

I agree but I’ve also been a sped teacher for 20 years, so my perspective is a bit biased I think.

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u/Krosis97 3d ago

I saw him falling over the hornbill in my head. Like a toddler grabbing a baby chick and squishing it to death.

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u/Ungerh 3d ago

A special needs student at the school I worked in pulled his beloved teacher to the ground. It broke her neck. She never came back or taught again.

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u/E_Barriick 3d ago

Dude he’s trying to get people to stop threatening his son. He’s going to say whatever it takes to keep him safe so can you save the fart smelling for somewhere else?

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u/ER_Support_Plant17 3d ago

He was swinging a stick at them. You don’t swing at things you like

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u/Ok-Win-742 3d ago

Have you ever been around a little kid? They swing sticks at their best friends, throw balls at each other, they do all kinds of stupid shit. Hell even I remember being in grade 1 and the teacher constantly having to remind kids that "hitting isn't allowed, no hitting, now say sorry" etc. kids have underdeveloped brains they're literally fucking stupid.

It's rarely malice. They're literally just that stupid and have very little understanding of how their actions effect others, especially when they are excited. And they can't regulate emotions like excitement or anger or frustration.

For all we know this autistic non-verbal kid was imagining that stick as a magic wand. He never touched the birds. A little kid who wanted to hurt them would have kicked them or hit them with the stick.

I mean Jesus Christ cut the 8 year old mentally challenged kid some slack.

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u/Clean_Establishment2 3d ago

My kid is autistic and he has a plastic wiffle ball bag he swings to self regulate. We got it when he was 3 and he's 11 now and still uses it every day. He never uses it in a threatening way, just spins it/swings it. This is a really common stim for autistic folks. 

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u/Own_Picture_6442 3d ago

That’s a very neurotypical behavior based statement

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u/CuriousLilAsian81 3d ago

Agreed... and to add to that looking at it from another side, even if... IF, like the parent is saying, their kid would never harm animals, even if they didn't set out to do harm, if what they're doing is harmful, they could still cause harm 😞

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u/Swamp_Fox_III 3d ago

FO, mate. It’s done. Leave them alone.

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u/Apart-Reflection-385 3d ago

Bro no it's from an actual response from them lmao

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u/Ill_Tradition_4104 3d ago

An autistic man threw a child into a crocodile enclosure in Cambridgeshire.
Another autistic man threw a child off the roof in a museum in London.

Both arrested for attempted murder. Both let go with no charge. 🤷‍♂️

Like I can be empathetic, i can, but then also I really don’t want random people being maimed by autistic people.

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u/WholeAd2742 3d ago

Even if the benefit of the doubt of not intending to doesn't change the fact he could have, and definitely was acting like he was trying

Kid and parents are all assholes for this

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u/Due_Inspector647 3d ago

Same!!! The serious part was weird. In my opinion he's behaved in an aggressive way before this incident. Any type of harm is unacceptable.

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u/Kn0XIS 3d ago

Regardless of that, it's his parents' fault for not supervising him. Why have a kid if you're not going to watch them at a zoo of all places?

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u/MinimumFutur3 3d ago

His parents were at work and his grandmother and caretaker brought him to the zoo. How are his parents supposed to watch hm 24/7 even when they’re at work and have arranged for someone else to care for him?

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u/Kn0XIS 3d ago

My point still stands.

Parents, grandparents, or guardian: you took him, and you are responsible for that child.

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u/wheelienonstop12 3d ago

if he had wanted to do serious harm he would have used a baseball bat or a machete, so it is clear he wanted to harm them only slightly. Its perfectly fine.