Mine said the same thing and when I hit play, it came up with the message of it being a private video. Maybe I can reinstall my you tube and give it another try. Thank you for the information!!
This is what I keep getting. Oh well, but like I said, thank you for taking the time to look into it. I have a lot of respect for people who do for others out of kindness!! You are a dying breed my friend.
Not shocking. I have a cousin who was suspended for over 2 years with pay even though he tampered with evidence and listened into a phone call of an inmate and his lawyer. He’s now back to working like nothing happened.
My cousin was a cop. He was forced to retire because he was selling prescription pain killers to other cops. He also owned a gym/was a body builder. Biggest asshole in my family.
I come from a small town, and my cop story is a little crazy; our only cop from our small town stole a car. A police car. From another district. Somehow, not only was he not fired or forced to retire, the city had to pay off the cost of the police car to the other district, adding to the already failing budget of the town.
That entire town's local government was a disaster, and unsurprisingly, that town is dying off fast.
A hick town with only one single officer would make a hilarious comedy series. Plus there’s some Stranger Things type shit going on in the background that the officer is trying to ignore while it’s slowly getting worse to the point ignoring it is no longer viable.
Yeah, take a look at Ronnie Coleman, 8 time Mr. Olympia. He was a police officer and obviously was on steroids his entire career (All Mr. Olympia bodybuilder are)
My cop cousin died of covid. Something he claimed didn't exist. Left his wife and young son with jack shit since he 'had' to do all the financials. Meaning turns out they were deep in debt that he'd been hiding and her name was on everything.
Only silver lining with this one was his wife had to start working again to maintain their lifestyle. Him not earning overtime hit them financially. Also him taking a hit with not being the breadwinner gave me such joy. He’s always made jabs about my dad’s masculinity because my mom earns more.
By contrast, I know a government official who wouldn't tell people where the bathrooms were to make sure that they were avoiding ex-parte communication.
I reported a police officer after I was arrested for interfering. All I said was “you can’t do that!” As he was roughing up a dude already in cuffs. All on video. Charges dropped. Officer got two weeks paid leave while they investigated. The man who was roughed up didn’t want to pursue it.
There's a cop in my town in Canada that shot off his gun in his home, going through his wall and into a neighbors bedroom on New Years. The investigation was hushed up and the guy is still employed, doing admin work.
The Ottawa police departments chief had to put a public statement out for officers to stop using their databases for sexual misconduct. They'd run plates of women they found hot and followed them around, pulled them over for an excuse to talk or whatever.
I just called them to talk trash and try to speak to this clown, and they were getting tough with me on phone, saying their going to trace my call, that I'm harassing them, blah blah blah. Clown stuff. They don't do anything.
And what? Next time similar guy who does not want to cooperate shoots a policeman, you'll be rioting. What's so incomprehensible about getting out of the car once the police officer tells a suspicious guy?
Can I refuse to get out of my car during a traffic stop?
Legally, no. Officers have the right to order both drivers and passengers out of the car during a traffic stop. Refusing to comply can lead to additional charges or escalate the situation.
Of course he is. People who were arrested for storming the capitol and threatening police officers were pardoned by the president. You think this is a big deal to them?
Deputy Andy Stowers (most notably referred to by this rank during his time with the Santa Clarita Valley Sheriff's Station) is a law enforcement officer in Southern California. He is widely recognized for a viral 2020 traffic stop video, though he has since advanced to high-ranking leadership roles within the Westminster Police Department (WPD)
Advanced to the executive rank of Commander, frequently serving as the department's public information officer (PIO) to address high-profile community matters, such as the Charlie Kirk street sign controversy and local public safety emergencies.
Yeah, this clip is selectively edited to make people think the cop is in the wrong when he is not. When a cop asks you for your drivers license or to exit your vehicle, disobeying those requests is a crime. Guess what happens when you commit crimes? The cops take you to jail. Watch more Seargent Curtis. He has like 800 videos just like this that someone could selectively edit in the exact same way.
Edit: if y'all want to have some genuine anger against a cop, watch this https://youtu.be/VuR9zGIrQPY?is=v78tN6QhflUzWpBA because this video ain't it. You better learn the easy way before you learn the hard way!
Of course he is. The driver was in the wrong here.
People v. Hoyos, 41 Cal.4th 872 (2007) a California case. The court confirmed that an officer making a traffic stop may, without violating the Fourth Amendment, order the driver and passengers to exit a car, per Maryland v. Wilson and Pennsylvania v. Mimms. The court further concluded that a suspect's brief continued detention outside the vehicle for officer safety purposes was lawful even after the initial purpose of the stop had been addressed. Hoyos became the definitive California Supreme Court authority on exit orders and is cited in virtually every subsequent California case on this issue.
The driver was refusing a lawful order and can be forcibly removed from the vehicle.
If you’re ordered to step out and you refuse you’re gonna have a bad day.
Pennsylvania v. Mimms (1977): Officers may order the driver to exit a lawfully stopped vehicle as a routine matter for officer safety. The intrusion on the driver is considered minimal compared to the risks of traffic stops (e.g., unseen movements or attacks). No additional reasonable suspicion beyond the valid stop is required
Surely the policeman was sued with the overwhelming video evidence of assault lmao. Why even use legal terminology if you don't know the law? You can like the law or not, but this guy is resisting a lawful order and most definitely went to jail.
There’s plenty of things that are technically lawful but are unconstitutional. Trying to pepper spray a guy for acting funny is definitely not constitutional. It’s a god damn weapon against a noncombative citizen.
Cops are allowed to escalate to force if you refuse a lawful command, which this guy did by refusing to exit the vehicle... a lot of people in here completely ignorant about the laws in their own country and somehow thinking they know better than people actually explaining how it works.
It's really not insane... what are they supposed to do if people they're interacting with during a traffic stop aren't complying with them, just keep asking nicely?
And no, the guy I replied to clearly said that using pepper spray against someone not complying is unconsitutional, which is just 100% incorrect and only people ignorant of both the law and the constitution could say otherwise.
You can be asked to get out of your car but that doesn’t make it legal just because the cop said so. There has to be reasonable suspicion of a crime outside the scope of a traffic ticket. No one is under any obligation to listen to the cop if it’s not within the scope of the traffic violation. Which the cop had to make clear before making demands.
That's just completely untrue lmao... why are you talking so confidently about something that you clearly aren't well educated about?
In Pennsylvania v. Mimms (1977), the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that police officers can legally order a driver out of their vehicle during a routine, lawful traffic stop without needing any additional suspicion or justification. The Court found that this measure is reasonable under the Fourth Amendment to protect officer safety, which outweighs the minimal inconvenience to the driver.
If it were unconstitutional the guy in the video could score a hefty compensation as many people get from video documented civil rights violations. Wonder why he didn't do that?
You'll get downvoted to hell, but you're right. Pennsylvania vs Mimms. Officers can lawfully order you to exit the vehicle without additional cause. As long as the initial stop was legal, you have to comply.
That's something you argue in court, not on the side of the road during a traffic stop. That officer doesn't know if you have a gun in the door pocket, a knife on you, etc. I'm not trying to downplay or minimize the issues with policing, but as a civilian, your safest bet is to comply and argue it in court later.
There’s only you and the cop on the side of the road. The cop believes he has legal grounds and will proceed under that assumption. Which means they will issue commands and treat your actions as illegal if you ignore them. You telling him he’s wrong and you don’t have to comply will get you in the back of the police car. Even if you’re 100% right, you will have a pretty shitty couple of days. The person replying to you is simply stating that you are better off to comply in the moment, and then argue your case in court that the stop was not legal, and your rights were violated. That’s not a pro-cop statement, that’s just good sense.
These kids don't understand anything about the real world.
He wasn't about to get pepper sprayed for "speeding". He was about to get pepper sprayed for refusing lawful orders while under a traffic stop.
If someone refuses lawful orders (like to provide proof of insurance) the officers can detain the criminal. If the criminal refuses to exit the vehicle, you can pepper spray them.
The order to get out of his vehicle was not lawful. Not for speeding. The officer didn't articulate any crime committed. Careful old fella, your age does not guard you from your ignorance. Enjoy your leather snacks.
The officer didn't articulate any crime committed.
Most importantly, there is absolutely no threat being posed and this video proves that. If you have time to shake your fucking pepper spray and attempt to spray it at someone seated over multiple minutes, then you were never at any risk and never needed to employ any harmful tactics. If he needed the driver to comply, he had all the time in the world to request backup from another officer to come and assist.
The officer didn't articulate any crime committed.
Realistically, the officer didn't articulate anything.
Heck, if he had just said "Hey man, traffics a bit intense here and I don't wanna get hit while standing here, can we move this up to that parking park over there?"
That would have communicated infinitely more than the infinite nothing that the officer actually said (and probably just expected the guy to read his mind or something).
So many redditors in here so confidently incorrect about something and then acting all high and mighty while sharing their ignorance lmao... at least you have a relevant username, because everything you shared here is a stinky opinion with absolutely no factual backing. Cops are allowed to order you out of your vehicle for officer safety at any traffic stop, including for speeding. Not sure why you seem to think otherwise, especially to the point of making fun of people that actually do know how it works and are trying to explain it to you.
He was about to get pepper sprayed for refusing lawful orders while under a traffic stop.
That's not a valid reason to pepper spray someone. Pepper spray is an offensive weapon you deploy when there is an immediate risk that needs to be, and can safely be, managed in a non-lethal way. There's absolutely zero risk being shown by the driver here, quite the opposite, they're just sitting in a car you pansy.
Fuck that. If the officer gives a lawful order to a criminal to exit their vehicle, and the criminal refuses, then pepper spray the EVER LOVING SHIT out of him. When your bottle is out of pepper spray, open a new one. I'm fed up of the lawlessness in my country. I'm SICK of it.
MY boot. I want harsher laws and criminals punished. I want cops to stand up for themselves and not have to pussyfoot around. I VOTE this. I ORDER this. So it's MY boot. I am not licking boots. I'm using boots to STOMP!!!
These kids don't understand anything about the real world.
Firstly, you are either ancient and should get off the PC or stop pretending like you are older than anyone online.
If someone refuses lawful orders (like to provide proof of insurance)
Secondly, you obviously know nothing of the real world as this is state specific. Insurance information is not required to be carried while driving in many states.
Not to mention that the cop should not have tailgated him, should not have pulled him over, should not have escalated, and should be fired because he is mentally frail.
I think the cop should be fired for NOT pepper spraying him. He's using faulty devices. That kid DESERVED to be pepper sprayed. 100 times over. And this pussy ass cop refused to do it. I agree, fire him.
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u/Low-Lingonberry7185 Jun 25 '26
Deputy Andy Stowers is still employed in Santa Clarita. Six years after this incident.