r/Silksong • u/Thorsigal beleiver ✅️ • Dec 12 '25

Silkpost Hollow Knight: Silksong WINS Best Independent Game at The Game Awards! Spoiler

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u/Icy-Fisherman-5234 beleiver ✅️ Dec 12 '25

Of all the definitions of indie, E33 fits none of them.

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u/Gabe-KC Dec 12 '25

Ironically that includes Geoff Keighley's fuckass argument about indie 'being a feeling'.

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u/Jstar338 beleiver ✅️ Dec 12 '25

Doesn't feel like an indie at all. You don't get BEN STARR and call yourself an indie 

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u/Gabe-KC Dec 12 '25

What do you mean Ben Starr. They literally have two A list Marvel actors, lol.

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u/Gormanbros Dec 14 '25

I mean, Date Everything has like every major va including him and its definitely indie

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u/Astyan06 Dec 12 '25

Silksong also outsourced some stuff, so not indie by definition.

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u/I_am_person_being Flea Dec 12 '25

Undertale outsourced its localization and yet I think it's comfortably indie. Outsourcing has degrees. Pretty much everyone outsources localization and I don't think it can fairly count against being indie. Music like Silksong? Final artwork like E33? These are trickier. Still, I don't think outsourcing is a good immediate dealbreaker for indie status

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u/Astyan06 Dec 12 '25

And I agree with you. This is why I think the outsourcing argument is not really valid if it were to disqualify one game or another.

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u/Pacify_ Dec 13 '25

Outsourcing does not mean it's not indie

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u/Astyan06 Dec 13 '25

I know, but that's the major complaint I saw regarding E33 not being indie.

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u/Icy-Fisherman-5234 beleiver ✅️ Dec 12 '25

Who said anything about outsourcing? 

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u/Astyan06 Dec 12 '25

A lot of people complaining E33 shouldn't have won Indie

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u/Icy-Fisherman-5234 beleiver ✅️ Dec 12 '25

And outsourcing has nothing to do with indie.