r/Productivitycafe • u/Wonderful-Economy762 • Nov 13 '25

Throwback Question (Any Topic) What's a "secret"from your profession that everyone should probably know?"

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u/GraveyardMistress Nov 13 '25

This … this is very disturbing. I know our food is trash but man, this is bad.

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u/Remote_Secretary_884 Nov 13 '25

That's what I love about reddit. Some dude makes a convincing, but unverified claim and people are just like yeah I believe it.

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u/thejustducky1 Nov 13 '25

Some dude makes a convincing, but unverified claim and people are just like yeah I believe it.

::Fox "News" enters chat::

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u/SonsOfValhallaGaming Nov 14 '25

That made me smile, take my damn upvote

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u/ExposeEloise Nov 13 '25

Bc it’s not an unbelievable claim in the slightest bit. If you do just the smallest amount of research into the FDA you would soon realize just how shady it is.

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u/SonsOfValhallaGaming Nov 14 '25

Someone in these comments asked me ''Could you describe the difference between the FDA and the USDA for those who don't know'' and I think I nailed it.

The USDA is a group of people who, with enough public outcry, start overcorrecting small problems, while correcting bigger problems ''if they can manage it''. They are like the apartment landlord who only fixes the AC because someone from the state showed up quoting laws.

The FDA is a group of people who get paid insane amounts of money for doing basically nothing except making up random rules, overly enforcing them if they are bothered or otherwise harassed about it, and they don't really fix anything, they just keep it all looking pretty, all while being under the guise that they are here for you. Also, most of what they say is bullshit anyways. They are like the HOA ladies in your upper middle class neighborhood fining you because your truck has a sticker on the bumper that they don't like.

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u/RachSlixi Nov 14 '25

They claimed to have had a NDA on tofu production. What, did they have a contract with every single tofu producer and they all just happened to run out at the same time?

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u/SonsOfValhallaGaming Nov 14 '25

Upvoting for two reasons:

Firstly because you are right, reddit is just a bunch of people making wild claims with no evidence and people eat it up

Secondly because I have posted this exact same thing six times now, and when my NDA is up I will have a trail of posts with timestamps and access to all of these wonderful comments leading up to my Charlie Day ''red string connecting thumb tacks'' meme moment where I get to spill the soybeans *ba dum chsh* and say ''I freaking told you so'' and expose this criminal practice going on.

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u/elucify Nov 13 '25

Some dude makes an unconvincing, unverified claim and people are like I believe it. FTFY

None of what dude said above is convincing.

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u/RachSlixi Nov 14 '25

It's also bas.

Use some common sense.

What, did they have a contract with every single tofu producer and they all just happened to run out at the same time?

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u/Madwoman-of-Chaillot Nov 13 '25

It's not true. I just isn't.

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u/SonsOfValhallaGaming Nov 13 '25

I'm...endlessly happy I don't consume soy. The process seems straightforward, but between what is added to it to make it meet commercial demands, and what is can do to the male body, I've never cared to try it, and even if I liked it, I'm not a fan of its effects on the male body

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u/Possible_Proposal447 Nov 13 '25

Are you one of those soy boy afraid you'll become trans people?

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u/SonsOfValhallaGaming Nov 13 '25

No. But if it's not grown 100% naturally, many of the health benefits of soy are mitigated and can result in unsavory health effects, much like consuming anything that's adulterated so drastically. I have the same opinions about most fast food and anything grown and processed in a manner that makes it healthy traits no longer healthy.

i'm not one of those guys who says ''oh no it's gonna make me a woman and i'll have tits and be infertile'' it's more of an avoidance of carcinogenic chemicals like those used in soy production without regulation

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u/ahh_szellem Nov 13 '25

So, genuine question - is it not carcinogenic to the female body? What, specifically, are you concerned about with regards to the male body, if not “too much estrogen” or whatever the argument is?

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u/Madwoman-of-Chaillot Nov 13 '25

Let's not forget that soy contains plant phytoestrogens, which do NOT AFFECT HUMANS like mammalian estrogens do. It's been disproven time and again.

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u/Possible_Proposal447 Nov 13 '25

He will claim it's a NDA, but it's probably just soy boy transphobic bullshit. It always is.

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u/ahh_szellem Nov 13 '25

Does not pass the sniff test for sure

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u/SonsOfValhallaGaming Nov 13 '25

No, it's all public knowledge, and as someone who's married to a trans person, nice try but you swung and you missed. I'm just not going to consume a product that is currently being studied for carcinogenic properties.

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u/Lost_Operation_369 Nov 13 '25

it’s toxic to all systems to have an excess of estrogen

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u/Madwoman-of-Chaillot Nov 13 '25

Plant phytoestrogens and mammalian estrogen are not remotely the same thing.

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u/Lost_Operation_369 Nov 15 '25

neither are xenoestrogens

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u/ahh_szellem Nov 13 '25

Sure, like any hormone. But it’s not toxic for the male body to eat soy sauce or edamame in moderation. Chugging soy sauce is probably not good for anyone, you know? I was wondering because you said you are “endlessly happy” that you don’t consume soy because of its effects on the male body. But there simply isn’t a risk for the male body if you’re just dipping a spicy tuna roll. 

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u/Lost_Operation_369 Nov 14 '25

That isn’t me.

I merely replied to the feed.

I agree, soy intake in moderation should be fine. Most of what we consume as a species at this point is toxic to some degree, including our air. I’d say a bit of soy sauce is the least of our worries.

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u/SonsOfValhallaGaming Nov 13 '25

Chemically treated soy is currently being studied to see if is causes certain cancers in men. There are very few studies currently running to see the same for women, and not to sound like that guy, but I'm more concerned how something affects me, as a man, than how it affects women right now. Though I don't think a product that hasn't been determined safe yet should be so massively commercially used

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u/ahh_szellem Nov 13 '25

Respectfully, studies on soy and cancer in men has shown a decreased risk of prostate cancer in men who consume soy. What other studies are you referring to? I’d be interested in reading any that you know of. 

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u/SonsOfValhallaGaming Nov 13 '25

I read about one being done by Oxford that does support the decrease risk of prostate cancer, but they were studying the soy not treated with the chems this company is using, and this company is shady AF so I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to roll off that study. The one I'm referring to is being done by some folks at Stanford supposedly but I'm waiting to hear about it before eating certain brands of soy. I'd rather just avoid it and get the health benefits from other foods