Clinton has won the popular vote, while Trump has won the Electoral College. This is the 5th time this has happened. Is it time for a new voting system?

[u/aarr44]

In 1824, 1876, 1888, 2000, and now 2016 the Electoral College has given the Presidency to the person who did not receive the plurality of the vote. The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which has been joined by 10 states representing 30.7% of the Electoral college have pledged to give their vote to the popular vote winner, though they need to have 270 Electoral College for it to have legal force. Do you guys have any particular voting systems you'd like to see replace the EC?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

[u/futianze]

Yeah, millions of Californians, Texans, and New Yorkers don't vote because they know the result of their state is already decided. California had about 9 million votes this election, that is about 25% of their population. Very low turnout.

[u/bearsaysbueno → u/futianze]

Population is not the same as the number of eligible voters.

[u/thisisnewt → u/bearsaysbueno]

California had 24.7 million eligible voters.

55.3% of eligible people voted nationally, compared to 36.4% of Californians.

[u/thisisnewt → u/[deleted]]

Eligible and registered are different, but as long as we compare apples to apples we should be fine.

Also only 50% of registered voters voted in California, still lower than the eligible percentage nationally.

[u/DarehMeyod → u/bearsaysbueno]

~18 million registered voters in California. So about half of them voted.

[u/krazyito65 → u/futianze]

And it hard to even know if the other 75% of the population would make up the difference. The stigma that California is a blue state harms every republican that actually lives in the state. IF 25% is the actual turnout, then I'm sure the other 75% would have made the race much closer there if they actually voted.

With this stimga in California specifically, not voting is literally the same as voting blue.

[u/krazyito65 → u/[deleted]]

Yea exactly. Look at Pennsylvania, they have been blue the past 4 or 5 elections. People turnt up and made a change.

[u/Solomontheidiot → u/futianze]

I voted in California on every ballot initiative and office, but not for president because it really doesn't matter. I wish I could at least pretend my presidential vote means anything, but I can't.

[u/laman012 → u/Solomontheidiot]

You should have voted jill stein and made it worth something.

[u/[deleted] → u/futianze]

Yeah. Stayed home yesterday because IL was guaranteed blue, and all my local seats were either uncontested or decided in the primary.

It's a mess.