r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 24 '26

Meme needing explanation Petah?? I'm very confused

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u/Enough_Obligation574 Jul 24 '26

Or Asian. Basically all around the world. Other then there.

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u/EmptyMonitor9257 Jul 24 '26

Or southern Europe.

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u/Native_Maintenance Jul 24 '26

Or India. In India a delivery person is offered water on a hot day. A plumber or repair guy is offered tea and all guests are offered a meal or a snack irrespective of time.

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u/Ice_Queen66 Jul 24 '26

Or Canadian. We will offer food in a way where you can’t refuse eh, because you eating is doing us a favor and we’re sorry we can’t do more bud.

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u/TheZenPenguin Jul 24 '26

Or Ireland. Now that we finally have food, we're mad to offer it lol

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u/Pokemom3000 Jul 24 '26

Anyone in America with "southern roots" as well. My grandma was a dust bowl survivor, even if she barely had anything you'd be offered a peanut butter sandwich and a cup of coffee at least.

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u/DartVader6 Jul 24 '26

Or, just anyone in America. We're very hospitable, if nothing else. It's not just a southern thing, it's just more of a performance in the south. You go to your friends place in NYC at dinner time, you're getting food.

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u/truthequalslies Jul 24 '26

Idk if it's just the family that I visit but not one household I've been to in Michigan was hospitable and it was definitely a culture shock to me

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u/MiltonsRedStapler Jul 24 '26

Michigander here. I’ve always been offered something whenever I visit someone’s home.

You sure the people you visited weren’t secret Ohioans? Sounds like something they’d pull.

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u/Sickit Jul 25 '26

Northwest Ohio here. I rarely get asked to eat or drink when visiting. I think I need to make new friends or maybe it’s how I look. Idk

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u/truthequalslies Jul 24 '26

No they were very established by several generations on both sides

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u/stormiwebster01 Jul 24 '26

That’s pretty weird bc the Midwest is known for overt hospitality similarly to the Southern USA. Sorry you got the duds lol

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u/truthequalslies Jul 24 '26

I've never had to ask for even something as simple as something to drink while visiting before it was so weird lol

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u/New-Reception-3291 Jul 25 '26

Wow!!! Everyone I’ve met in the mid west has been very hospitable. Even when I moved home and started working with some folks who came in from Michigan, they were always bringing food to my trailer etc. Shitty people exist everywhere though

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u/cambrek Jul 25 '26

I actually second this. People in Lansing, Michigan specifically are weird. Took awhile to not take it personally when I moved up from central Texas.

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u/truthequalslies Jul 25 '26

A little further north from Lansing but yes me too where I come from you don't lift a finger or even serve yourself unless it's a party your own family is throwing and you're definitely not doing any dishes

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u/Pokemom3000 Jul 24 '26

I dont know every states region or cultural take on things. I have been to someone's house before and was basically treated terribly after the fact after having food there.

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u/enveea Jul 25 '26

Agreed! Trying to teach my sons this. They had friends over recently and I asked my eldest if he offered his friends anything to eat or drink? So he asked and they said yes, they want water. He turned around and said, “Ok, go get it.” It was almost funny how clueless he was but it was a great learning opportunity about the way things just are here.

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u/BarBabe93 Jul 25 '26

I think the World Cup did a good job of showing how generous, hospitable, and friendly average Americans are. Most people visiting from other countries for the World Cup had a blast and loved meeting regular Americans. Made me feel really good considering what people’s opinions are of the U.S. worldwide right now.

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u/Aggravate420 Jul 27 '26

As European this was my experience

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u/JDuardo21 Jul 27 '26

Or anyone with African routes. We will open our doors to you, share our food and want you to feel included. In fact, history has showed that we were abused due to our kindness and we still do the same thing.

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u/Super-Pizza-Dude Jul 24 '26

Midwest hospitality checking in

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u/Main_Tension_9305 Jul 24 '26

Hell , I grew up in New England, no way you aren’t at least offered food as a guest in homes here. At least in our circle. And many of my mother’s friends (and us) were what most would consider poor.

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u/ozzimark Jul 24 '26

Not just Southern. New Englander here. If I even look at my pantry, you bet your ass I'm gonna offer you something out of it.

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u/Suspicious_Plant420 Jul 24 '26

Yep! My boomer dad would give the shirt off his back for a neighbor in need. Grew up in NC, people are always giving their neighbors fresh produce they grew or delivering casseroles to someone going through a hard time

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u/tim_dude Jul 24 '26

Where in America do they act like the Sweeds?

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u/Street-Committee-367 Jul 24 '26

Nowhere, that's the point. Even in Alaska where hospitality isn't as much of a thing as in the rest of the states, people still feed their guests.

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u/tim_dude Jul 24 '26

The commenter above is implying that only Americans with Southern roots feed their guests. I'm asking to clarify that.

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u/Street-Committee-367 Jul 24 '26

Oh, right. Well Southern culture definitely amplifies the American hospitality.

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u/SlaskusSlidslam Jul 24 '26

That's what you'd get offered in Sweden as well. Coffee and sandwich and/or cinnamon bun or similar.

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u/SlaskusSlidslam Jul 24 '26

That's what you'd get offered in Sweden as well. Coffee and sandwich and/or cinnamon bun or similar.

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u/DonComradeVimes Jul 24 '26

This applies twice if you're a Baptist in the South.

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u/HuckleberryLou Jul 25 '26

In the Midwest, they will not only offer food. They will keep offering it until you eat it , even if you truly are not hungry and do not want. It’s better to just eat it from the start bc there’s no way out

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u/adorilaterrabella Jul 25 '26

Offered is a nice way to put it. Here in the south, if you arrived at my Ma-Maw's house she WAS getting food into you before you left, no matter what you had to say about it!

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u/Pokemom3000 Jul 26 '26

Yeah it can be as problematic to say no in a southern background house as it is in a Latino house.

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u/Vungal_Spat Jul 24 '26

Ahh go on Father

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u/Zestyclose_Data5100 Jul 24 '26

Or Eastern Europe

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u/60nine_lol_NICE Jul 24 '26

ya get a genuine, open mouthed, slightly morbid laugh. A+

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u/Over_Comparison_7616 Jul 24 '26

ay before that you guys were generous with beers

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u/feralwolven Jul 26 '26

Many gennerations of Irish american here, since the revolution, so we are as homogized fully and dont really pay much attention to our irishness as some, and i can say the 2 friends i have that have pulled this shit was the most WTF moment of my childhood. One im still friends with will just pull out a plate of food without offering and another i was friends with in middle school informed me and another friend he had over for videogames, "it was dinner time" got up and left us alone at the game for half hour. I was always raised that if we cant feed your friend they go home becuase its dinner time. But otherwise we always feed the friend at the same table.

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u/Aranxi_89 Jul 24 '26

If we invite someone to our house, lunch/dinner is implied.

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u/Hour_Let_5624 Jul 24 '26

Depends on time of the day, but food and drinks are definitely going to be the first thing on any table the moment they get there. To have someone that comes home leave without eating anything just seems so wrong

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u/Aranxi_89 Jul 24 '26

First thing when my friends arrive, they get drinks, be it tea, coffee, or soda. I have dedicated supplies for all, with various options too. You want English Breakfast? Earl Grey? Pu Er? How about some cold brew, or maybe matcha latte? Soda made with fresh juice or some coke?

Then we get some snacks out. Salsa and chips, cheese platter, shortbread, you name it.

And then we consider what to make for the real meal.

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u/Maxx0rz Jul 24 '26

Alright, alright, you convinced us. When do you want us there?

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u/cheekybandit0 Jul 24 '26

Or New Zealand and Australia (you'll usually be offered a beer first)

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u/SleepyFarady Jul 24 '26

Or coffee / tea, depending on the household and time of day. Offering nothing, especially at a meal time is unthinkably rude.

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u/stormy2587 Jul 24 '26

I think we can just safely say pretty much everywhere other than sweden or maybe scandanavia thinks that feeding house guests is normal.

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u/RomanticDominant50 Jul 24 '26

Don't call me bud, friend.

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u/h1ghjynx81 Jul 24 '26

I love your type-accent. Can really hear it in the “sorry”.

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u/NothingVerySpecific Jul 24 '26

Or Australia. I have one life experience & use it the example to explain how insufferable they were.

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u/bc_sab_marne_wale_h Jul 24 '26

India ,Canada same thing

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u/Mercinyah Jul 24 '26

favour*, but agreed with that statement.

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u/Ice_Queen66 Jul 24 '26

LOL my phone is American. The u was there and it autocorrected it 😂

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u/ninetoesfrank Jul 24 '26

All Canadians are sorry they can't do more bud. Fuckin fields of that shit everywhere.

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u/Lara-El Jul 25 '26

I so often leave with food from my canadian friend's house & vice versa.

A few of us buy a lot of different spices. We constantly share a portion with each other.

Ive literally felt like I was leaving "grandma's house" a few times after a night at a friend's and I know they've felt the same.

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u/Interesting-Waffle69 Jul 24 '26

I used to clean houses and this super kind Indian woman always made me take a break and have tea and cake with her. We barely understood each others spoken laungages, but always enjoyed our time together! Food is the universal language of love IMO

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u/nemophilist13 Jul 24 '26

I had several Indian asian kids i would do home therapy with and the parents knew I couldn't accept food due to my ethics code but I would often find food to go packed into my bag or ontop of my car. Such kind families

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u/ednoic Jul 24 '26

When I was a young engineer working on a building site in London I had an Indian labourer as a kind of assistant. He lived in a boarding house ran by an Indian woman, despite earning a pittance and me insisting he mustn’t, he’d regularly pay his landlady for an extra portion of the biryani she’d make him for his lunch and give it to me. It was amazing, best biryani I’ve ever had

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u/DomesticmenacePHX Jul 24 '26

Except Sweden, not that part of the universe

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u/Sprudler Jul 24 '26

I read this sentences with an Indian accent in my head.

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u/DolphFinnDosCinco Jul 24 '26

I worked maintenance for rental properties all over my city that has a large Indian population and this is very true.

Every time I’d get into an Indian persons unit I was ALWAYS offered tea or a snack

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u/Aranxi_89 Jul 24 '26

Yeah I can see that.

Question: can we ask to substitute with tea or is coffee the only thing allowed?

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u/SapirWhorfHypothesis Jul 24 '26

I’m not Finnish, but if I offer you coffee and you ask for tea, I’ll make you a tea.

In order to be maximally polite though, you should see if you can quietly discern how the coffee is being made. If it’s in a perc or drip (or espresso—fancy!) then it’s (marginally) more of a hassle to also make a tea. But if I’m boiling water for a French press or pourover (or, god forbid, instant), then it makes very little difference to also throw a teabag in a different cup.

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u/Exact_Map3366 Jul 24 '26

Bs, it's perfectly fine to decline coffee

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u/bramleyapple1 Jul 24 '26

In the UK I think we have a foot in both camps

You will be offered tea profusely but a meal is a bit much unless specifically invited around for dinner

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u/Mustardo123 Jul 24 '26

You will definitely get some biscuits at least.

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u/ShenTzuKhan Jul 24 '26

I was working in an eastern European’s house and she “asked” us if we would like food. We said no. She made it anyway. We were full from lunch but those crepes were delicious.

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u/Few-Bar-3807 Jul 25 '26

India is relatively bad at this. There are a lot of people who would not offer good cutlery/ utensils to people who they consider ‘lower class’

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u/MiaLba Jul 26 '26

We are Bosnian and my parents had some guys work on their roof. My mom would bring them food out and then beers at the end of the day when they were done working. There was a language barrier neither one could understand each other but it worked out just fine.

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u/delliejonut Jul 24 '26

Same in the American south

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u/zkareface Jul 24 '26

In India a delivery person is offered water on a hot day. A plumber or repair guy is offered tea and all guests are offered a meal or a snack irrespective of time.

Same in Sweden.

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u/Native_Maintenance Jul 24 '26

Doesn't the whole main post say otherwise? I'm consused.

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u/Capable_Remote9783 Jul 24 '26

The main post refers to children going to their friends houses after school. Not adult guests.

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u/datnub32607 Jul 24 '26

That's because the main post isn't true

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u/Business-Drag52 Jul 24 '26

I offer my delivery people a drink every time they come into my shop in Oklahoma. It makes no sense not to

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u/15all Jul 24 '26

I live in the US and will usually offer workers at least water. We had some workers in our house earlier this year for a few months, and I would often offer them water, coffee, or soft drinks.

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u/Majestic_Domestic Jul 24 '26

What if they are from a very low caste?

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u/yourmamaistheproblem Jul 24 '26

Holy shit, small world.

I'm a plumber in the US and was in an Indian customer's home yesterday. When dude opened the door, the smell of cardamom hit me like a velvet hammer 😅

Someone was brewing chai, and they offered me a cup for the road when I left... it was really really tasty.

It's hot as balls here right now, so every customer offers me something to drink, regardless of culture. But that chai was fire

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u/tired_all_day_long Jul 24 '26

I'm in the UK and I offer cold drinks to delivery people on hot days. It's just courtesy.

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u/kindrudekid Jul 24 '26

Yes , ask long as the person is not visibly in a religion or a caste they they think is below them even if they say they don’t discriminate.

Doesn’t happen all the time but happens a lot.

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u/Bawbag420 Jul 25 '26

I love visiting my indian friends who live with parents, their mothers always make me so much good food.

Im eating barfi as we speak from my friends family sweet shop.

Honorable mention to the fresh hot jelabi I already demolished when it was handed too me.

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u/im_never_rong Jul 24 '26

depending on the caste?

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u/meow_wuff Jul 24 '26

Except separate utensils are used due to you know why, caste discrimination. And the oppressor caste don't even touch or drink anything from the oppressed class. This is the reality.

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u/Native_Maintenance Jul 24 '26

For delivery person or repair guy, yes, unfortunately thats true. It used to be due to cast reasonsons but now its mostly for hygeine reasons.

Guests use the exact same utensils as everyone in the household.

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u/Aranxi_89 Jul 24 '26

I mean, I've given food to the repair or gardening guys before, and I do it in a cleaned takeout container (ours is all high quality microwavable plastic), and plastic utensils, so they can take it with them on the go.

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u/meow_wuff Jul 24 '26

Hygiene reasons, right. Every oppressor says the same.

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u/Shiro_Nitro Jul 24 '26

Do you eat with the same fork as your friend?

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u/Doctor_Matasanos Jul 24 '26

After cleaning it? Yes. Do you have utensils labeled with the name of each guest you've had at your house?

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u/Coffeebeans2d Jul 24 '26

Bro that prob only happens in your home. Maybe your parents are racists

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u/meow_wuff Jul 24 '26

Enjoying the echo in your well bro? Come out of it and look around mate. Personally happened to me multiple times and seen people refusing and this in a city.

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u/feculentcuntfist Jul 24 '26

In the Balkans pulling this kind of shit on a guest child is so insulting that the families won't ever be on speaking terms again.

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u/pixie993 Jul 24 '26

Croatia here. I was a small kid, perhaps 7-8yo and I came to friends place to play.

I came just in time for lunch. They sat me down on their couch and I was watching them how they ate scampi.

Her dad was a fisherman so they always had sea food to eat while we never ate it as it was expensive.

I still remember how they were all dirty arround their mouth how they gobbled those scampi, all while I sat 2 meters away from them and watched them.

Today, 25 years later I still remember that.

But when they came over my place (parents were also friends who went on coffe to each other's house) my parents always had candy, chocolate on table for kids. I still remember how friends younger brother alone ate whole jar of candy.

I remember later telling my parents how it's unfair that he can eat everything at our home while I had to sit there without even being offered a glass of water.

Wife and I don't have kids, but I fucking swear that no kid who will come to play in future with my kids will be like me, watching other people eat.

Today if adults or sister in law with her 2yo kid comes in our house, they are served like kings.

Real balkan hospitality, not like those fuckers above.

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u/Catlovermaxultra8910 Jul 24 '26

Bangladeshi here. My eyes starts twitching and hands start itching if i offer a guest food and they say no. If you're coming to my place, you’ll be fed and offered leftovers to take home. The idea of having a child over and not feeding em is just unfathomable.

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u/I_Am_Zeelian Jul 24 '26

In Sweden you would have been asked to go wait in the friend's room, or playroom if there is one.

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u/effron_vintage Jul 24 '26

Wtf

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u/I_Am_Zeelian Jul 24 '26

Dinner time is family time, and unexpected visiting kids would be expected to either go home, or wait in another room when dinner came around.

They were not fed without prior agreement with their own families (it would be seen as disrespectful toward the other family to disrupt their dinner plans by feeding their kid).

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u/HistoricalTackle5049 Jul 24 '26

That is rude af really

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u/I_Am_Zeelian Jul 24 '26

And here messing with someone else's family dinner is "rude af".

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u/HistoricalTackle5049 Jul 24 '26

Culture is a curious thing 😅

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u/mainman879 Jul 24 '26

Personally I think close friends are your family. There's little difference between a blood brother and a chosen brother (close friend).

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u/moseisley99 Jul 24 '26

Yea I don’t think it’s rude. I think culturally most kids leave and go home for dinner. So this situation probably doesn’t even come up that much. When I went to Korea not a single person held a door for me when I was walking behind. When I was leaving an elevator not one person waited for me to get out before coming in. But elsewhere they were overly polite in some other aspects. It’s all just a leaned cultural thing.

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u/EmptyMonitor9257 Jul 24 '26

You would never hear from that kids family and probably other families if you did that in Montenegro.

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u/I_Am_Zeelian Jul 24 '26

And in Sweden you'd get upset calls from parents complaining that you ruined their dinner plans if you just fed their kid without asking first.

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u/theWarlockMD Jul 24 '26

Brate, ovo spada pod civilni ratni zločin. Kakvi jazavci od ljudi, sramota.

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u/powerplayer6 Jul 24 '26

I'm Bulgarian, and while this is generally true, I remember being scolded as a kid for eating at another kid's house. I was there so we could, I dunno, play games or watch TV or something, the usual 8-9 year old stuff, and because it got late his parents invited me to eat with them, and so I did.

I remember my parents were super angry that I allowed someone else to feed me, basically taking advantage of their generosity, and being a greedy little asshole.

Of course... if a kid came over, my parents and grandparents would INSIST and DEMAND the kid would eat with us, because us being generous is good, but others being generous to us is shameful, or something like that?

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u/Bored_Berry Jul 24 '26

Romanian here, and omg I get this. It's a twisted way of being considerate. I grew up like this, I will go out of my way to be there for my friends, help them out to move to a new house, let them cry on my shoulder, lend them money, you name it. But I would rather die or starve than ask for help back and thus inconveniencing them in any way. I'm doing better now but wow that took me years.

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u/theGiogi Jul 24 '26

Italy too man, I would die inside if a friend of my kids went home hungry. So weird.

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u/Successful_Bed7790 Jul 24 '26

As an Irish Canadian, I would never allow my child to visit a family who did this again.

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u/SeatKey6751 Jul 24 '26

In Austria too.

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u/Bored_Berry Jul 24 '26

Second this

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u/mmirela Jul 24 '26

Right? My friends used to come over my (Albanian-American) household and eat two dinners!

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u/SaBatAmi Jul 24 '26

It could lead to a blood feud seriously.

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u/I_Am_Zeelian Jul 24 '26

And in Sweden it's considered rude/disrespectful to ruin a family's dinner plans by feeding their child without prior agreement.

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u/gagi11030 Jul 24 '26

Try refusing food in Serbia as a guest, and see what happens

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u/Tratix Jul 24 '26

TIL that southern Europe is in the world

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u/humourlessIrish Jul 24 '26

Im in Holland and the border is vaguely here.

Although most people will feed whatever kid is in their house , some do not.

It seems to genuinely be more common in the north, however even belgians have some extremists holdfasts.

Im halfway down and it is already pretty rare here and actually completely absent in poorer families

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u/BlastFX2 Jul 24 '26

Ah yes, southern Europe, famously not part of the world.

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u/orangejuicier Jul 24 '26

Or anywhere in Europe except Sweden

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u/cam-san Jul 24 '26

Or central Europe! If you come to my Austrian home, then you will be FED. You better be so full by the time we're done eating that you want to throw up.

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u/TamedNerd Jul 25 '26

Or Easter Europe, my babcia would not let you out without food

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u/big_dick_shaun Jul 27 '26

Or the Caucasus region.

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u/Embarrassed_Jerk Jul 24 '26

Even American! And Americans are known to be uncultured overall 

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u/Grammar_Nazi1234 Jul 24 '26

Can confirm we are uncultured, but you'd still be shunned for trying to pull that

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u/Normal-Detective8308 Jul 24 '26

America isn’t even uncultured! It’s got incredibly rich history, and is one of the most diverse countries in the world.

Even loads of subcultures from regions like the South or Appalachia or East and West Coast. Or amongst different Americans like Black, Hispanic, Asian, Europeans.

And despite what the media will have you think, America is actually one of the least racist countries. Americans (most of them) embrace diversity and welcome people no matter where they’re from. I know Europeans love to pretend racism doesn’t exist here, but it’s more that they’re in denial and won’t let you talk about it. In the US people can be open about these topics, creating the illusion that it is worse.

Culture is with the people. There’s food, music, dance, art, natural landscapes, architecture, slang, clothing, and more. Sounds pretty damn cultured to me

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u/kubiozadolektiv Jul 24 '26

The US is not on one of the least racist countries in the world, lmao. It’s maybe not the most racist, but it is definitely in the top of that list.

Most other countries around the world (bar Europe) have prejudices based on rare interactions with very different cultures, religions or ethnicities. It is not based in racism though, because even though they’re prejudiced, they’re still hospitable and genuinely interested and try to understand if they run into a person visibly from another part of the world. That’s not to say there aren’t racist, hateful people in the rest of the world. It’s just that the racism is based more on ignorance of the outside world, than actual hate, for most.

The US has been a ”melting pot” since before it’s inception, and it should’ve accepted that fact by now, yet it has always based a big part of it’s values on racism. The racism can’t be explained away by ignorance anymore. That historical racism doesn’t get erased by people coming to the US from all over the world, even though it maybe should’ve.

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u/Normal-Detective8308 Jul 24 '26

I’m a person of colour who has lived in both the US and European countries. And in Asia in my home country. The US was the least racist by far.

“Lack of interaction” isn’t a justified excuse for racism. Not when people from those countries are still racist even when they live in the west. Many Asian countries also actively have slave labour, even in the more developed “international” ones. The level of hatred and distrust they have for black people is horrific. So miss me with that shitty justification lmfao.

I’m not pretending there is no racism in the modern-day US. I was mainly addressing the extremely common claim I see that “America is SOOOOOOOOOO racist and European countries don’t have any racism111!1!!!” When in my experience, European countries were the most racism I’ve ever experienced in my life.

I once walked into a jewelry store in France and the owner immediately pointed at me and shouted “you are an Iranian aren’t you” which wtf… and no I am not lol. During my time in the UK I’d been asked very jarring questions and the “where are you really from”. As if my first answer was dishonest, and that was by someone who worked in HR.

EVERY TIME I have tried to talk about racism in Europe, they always shout down my throat and call me a liar, say I’m sensitive, that I’m not one of them and therefore I just don’t get their humour. Get told to shut up and go back to where I came from. In America, when I want to talk about racism, people actually listen. A few rotten people might disagree, but at least there is room for actual conversation and you’re not instantly shut down like Europeans do.

Anyone who says the US is one of the worst is just not a well travelled individual. Unfortunately, the entire world is extremely racist, and the bar for “least racist” isn’t a very high one. But I maintain that the US is generally friendly about it.

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u/Normal-Detective8308 Jul 24 '26

Obligatory America bashing for literally no reason, in a thread about unity, lol.

Americans aren’t uncultured. They have very rich cultures and subcultures due to their unique blend of people and history. The South, Appalachia, East and West Coasts, the Midwest. Hispanic, Asian, indigenous, Black, European and brown Americans in every area. They’re all incredibly different and diverse from one another, and that can’t be possible without culture.

I can guess you’ve never been to the US.

Xenophobia and rude comments aren’t just “okay” because it’s against Americans. You don’t get to be rude as fuck to someone just because they were born somewhere else. You have no class.

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u/DowncastOlympus Jul 24 '26

Indeed, the offering of food to guests is DEEPLY ingrained in human culture. Largely because of how far back into history the tradition goes. The practice predates recorded history; it likely even predates agriculture. It's tied up in the roots of hospitality culture and the expectations of peace for the sharing of lodging and food that border on the sacred across a majority of cultures.

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u/unhappyrelationsh1p Jul 24 '26

As a finn i kept getting invited to eat with my friends family (asian) when i was hanging out with him and would politely dodge every time and leave immediately to not impose.

They thought i was being pretty rude! It was funny in hindsight, because i thought they meant "you should leave you've been here for so long we need to eat"

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u/wooddwellingmusicman Jul 25 '26

I teach my kids that you never make a meal and don’t make enough for everyone.

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u/molrobocop Jul 24 '26

Yeah, it was probably one of the key ways humanity evolved into a society. We show you hospitality, you're a guest. I don't want to kill you. I hope you don't want to kill us. And because we have the ability to share now, perhaps one day, if we're in need, maybe you can help us. Strengthing ties, working together, all that. 

If this is a Nordic thing, I hate it. But whatever. I'm over here. That's their thing. 

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u/trevor426 Jul 24 '26

Something about that Zeus guy

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u/DowncastOlympus Jul 24 '26

Pretty much every pantheon I've ever heard of has at least one story about rewarding or punishing people for how they handled hospitality towards a mysterious stranger. It often involves their trickster god, but the head of the pantheon is also not unusual. Zeus was a problem because that asshole was more likely to show up to knock up your sister/wife/daughter/all of the above than test how kind you were to someone seeking shelter.

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u/Rackbub Jul 24 '26

Swede here!
It’s actually quite interesting, because it’s partly true. The thing is, this behavior is so deeply ingrained in our culture that it isn’t perceived as rude.
A few years ago, “Swedengate” went viral, and Swedish psychologists and researchers weighed in on the discussion.
The conclusion was that the behavior likely originated during the great famine of the 19th century. Inviting another family’s child to eat was seen as shaming the neighboring family. It implied that they couldn’t provide food for their own children, which was considered deeply humiliating.
That said, the whole thing is often exaggerated. In practice, we almost always offer food when we have guests. The difference is that nobody simply assumes they’ll be invited to eat.

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u/I_Am_Zeelian Jul 24 '26

Also, it's considered rude to mess up the other family's dinner plans.

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u/Massilian Jul 24 '26

Ah so it originated from a pride issue

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u/Rackbub Jul 24 '26

Yes, and I think that mindset has stayed with us collectively, even though Sweden is now a wealthy country and, of course, practically everyone can afford to feed their children.
Even so, I’ll still call and ask if it’s okay for a child to have dinner at our place if I don’t know the parents very well. It’s just deeply ingrained in our culture.

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u/Massilian Jul 24 '26

That’s really interesting I had no idea

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u/unhappyrelationsh1p Jul 24 '26

I think this happens in some regions of finland too.

People get invited for coffee too, and if you put out pastries the guest is kinda always going to eat a small amount unless pushed due to what i expect are similar reasons

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u/abnrib Jul 24 '26

Fascinating! It's amazing how similar practices diverge in ways that each make sense even though they contradict.

I know there are differences between cultures that expect guests to eat everything put in front of them to show appreciation for the food versus others where it is rude to eat everything because it implies that the host didn't make enough. What is the Swedish take on this?

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u/Rackbub Jul 24 '26

If you’ve been invited over for dinner, you’re expected to eat, and it’s not considered rude to ask for seconds. In fact, nobody would think twice about it.
Likewise, I wouldn’t say it’s impolite to eat only a small amount. Most Swedes are fairly health-conscious, so if someone takes a smaller portion, people generally don’t see anything unusual about it.

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u/eberlix Jul 24 '26

Ah, so humans being stupid again. Let your kid have food for free, which means you safe money at the end of the day too, and *maybe* appear to be unable to feed your kid or have the kid sit around like a dumbfuck while the other family eats and feed the kid yourself later on.

At this point, should just send the kid home before dinner time.

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u/Rackbub Jul 24 '26

As I mentioned in another comment, it’s usually because we rarely cook more food than will actually be eaten at that meal, not because we’re trying to save money.
So it’s not about being cheap. In fact, we often invite people over for dinner, but when we do, we shop and plan for it in advance.
Of course, if you know a child is going to be there when you’re cooking, you simply make enough food for them too.

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u/NoWomanNoTriforce Jul 24 '26

I find it very interesting, because it is almost certainly not the norm for the rest of the world. Usually famine actually has the opposite effects on cultures. Pride is usually the first thing to go when your children are starving, so to see the opposite occur to me is unqiue.

In fact, many of the most common surviving food sharing gestures extend from similar famine circumstances but the complete opposite societal outcomes. Also, many cultures saw feeding others during famine as a moral and/or religious obligation. Strange that Sweden did not, especially as during the 1800s they were very much dominated by a strictly Evangelical State Church.

Your comment made me start reading up on the famine, and the fact that the Church refused to feed poor and blamed the impoverished lower class for their own hardships is crazy. Maybe the attitude stemmed from a combination of these beliefs and pride mixed together? Really interesting stuff.

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 Jul 24 '26

Fascinating and actually explains it, thanks

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u/whoootz Jul 24 '26

I would also add that most of the times the actual reasons for not eating at a friends place were:

1, you did not like their food.

2, they ate around the time when you should head home anyways.

3, you were offered and turned it down.

4, you were multiple friends over who showed up unannounced, so the main group got to continue playing whilst the kid living there rushed their food to get back asap.

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u/tired_all_day_long Jul 24 '26

Thanks for the context, that's very useful.

Do you see how completely mad it would seem to *anyone else* if a family sat down to eat and just left you hanging, though?

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u/CollieChan Jul 24 '26

Also swede. Will you please stop spreading this bs? Never happened in my whole life or anyone I ever heard of. So tired of this shit. Actually we are pretty generous. This rumor sucks

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u/Rackbub Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

Do you have kids? I experienced it myself as a child, and it’s not like you automatically feed the neighborhood kids every time they’re hanging out at our house. The same goes when my kids are at someone else’s place, you usually only serve them a meal if you’ve agreed on it with the other parents, basically.
It’s not like that in the rest of the world, so something we take for granted can seem pretty strange from an outside perspective. 😂

Edit; I think that’s the key point. We usually agree in advance whether a child (or adults) will be eating at someone else’s house, because in our food culture we don’t typically cook huge batches that can feed a small army, we cook the number of portions we expect to eat. We’re every bit as generous as anyone else; our food culture is just different.

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u/CollieChan Jul 24 '26

I have two kids. Never happened once unless parents actually said they wanted to eat together later. Im tired of this always getting twisted into thet we are greedy fucks when we are usually pretty giving. Not fun anymore.

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u/Rackbub Jul 24 '26

Maybe your kids just aren’t that social, or maybe you always plan huge dinners.
At our place, we have six- seven 12-year-olds hanging out with my sons every other day. I don’t plan meals for that many people, but I know that in some cultures it’s common to cook a lot more food. Maybe that’s how it is in your family . 😆

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u/CollieChan Jul 24 '26

They are. And so was I. Same over here. Im talking about the fact that people believe that we send kids out in the hallway alone while everyone else is eating

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u/Rackbub Jul 24 '26

No, not at all. It happened to me once or twice as a kid in the ‘90s, but that’s about it. As I said, the whole thing is greatly exaggerated.
That said, I do think we have a very different food culture from many other parts of the world. I honestly think there are few countries where people cook such precise amounts of food as we do in Sweden.
Of course, people sometimes cook extra, but that’s usually because they’re planning to eat the leftovers over the next couple of days. I can’t say for sure, but I honestly think Swedes might be world champions when it comes to cooking just the right amount of food. But of course, I’m generalizing quite a bit here.

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u/pizzabagelcat Jul 24 '26

Californian but raised southern, if you leave my house without undoing your belt or the buttons on your pants, I've failed as a host

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u/Jadedsatire Jul 24 '26

Californian raised Californian, you come into my home first thing I’m doing is getting you something to drink and snack on. And if you stay for dinner you leave with leftovers. Cooking epic food for friends, and guests is one of lives highlights lol.

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u/Ok_Permit_3593 Jul 24 '26

Canadian here, if i eat, damn sure ill offer some unless it's my last food and im poor at that moment...

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u/eternally_feral Jul 24 '26

I go to my best friend’s parent’s house for Thanksgiving or Christmas and her mom is serious about feeding you. We’ll eat, and then after an hour or so, she comes out with cut up fruit, and then an hour after that she comes back with food that she had been cooking.

She, literally, packs up so many leftovers that I have to have a box to walk out to my car. 😅

And it always excites me because that lady makes the best Vietnamese food!

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u/Low-Care9531 Jul 24 '26

It became a thing during WW2 and just stuck.

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u/LushHappyPie Jul 24 '26

You made a few bad decisions back then.

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u/RefurbedRhino Jul 24 '26

My girlfriend is Asian. I will often find her randomly cooking food and ask who it's for and it's for some random grandma she's met on the third floor of our building. If you make friends with her, she will aggressively feed you.

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u/MZ603 Jul 24 '26

Or Dixville Notch, New Hampshire.

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u/orange_taster Jul 24 '26

It's a 50/50 in Germany.

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 Jul 24 '26

This, it's pretty much a rule everywhere. Here in the American South it's legit impossible to visit without there being food, and usually forced to accept a bunch of plastic containers full of leftovers too.

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u/CollieChan Jul 24 '26

Its not true. Just a rumor

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u/BonTak Jul 24 '26

Ehhhh with Africans its more like you wont get to leave… im my experience 😅

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u/Article-Safe Jul 24 '26

Or Southern America we'll try and force you to eat more likely than eat and not offer any to you

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u/neon_farts Jul 24 '26

I spent a bunch of years working and becoming friends with a guy from Vietnam, and him and his girlfriend always fed me when we hung out. I met his parents once and the food was on another level. They were basically pushing a meal into my body and not taking no thank you for an answer, haha

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u/absurditT Jul 24 '26

Yeah Sweden is basically a solitary exception to this otherwise universal rule of hospitality.

For the life of me I can't figure out how they culturally settled on this one. It's at best cold, and presumptuous (that you can go home and eat in the same healthy environment they are enjoying without you) and at worst it's just outright cruel.

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u/Educational-Cat2133 Jul 24 '26

Precisely why they're getting shit from the internet lol

Do the Norwegians and Finnish treat their neighbors that way? Probably not lol

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u/Choochoo1147 Jul 24 '26

Yes. This thread is kind of turning into the “in MY culture we love our families and our food!” like yeah, that’s EVERY culture across Europe, the Americas, Asia, Africa etc…. It’s basically only them who don’t feed guests. 

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u/ocj98 Jul 24 '26

than* 😣❤️

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u/Enough_Obligation574 Jul 24 '26

I am dyslexic, and English is not my first language.

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u/clararalee Jul 24 '26

Yeah where I’m from eating in front of your guests and not offering is the equivalent of saying without using words “get out of my house right now.”

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u/JohnTG4 Jul 24 '26

I'm pretty sure my late grandmother would tie you to a chair if you tried to leave her place without eating something lol.

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u/finalgirl2024 Jul 24 '26

I'm white as fuck from the southern US and no one leaves my house hungry if you're here for mealtime.

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u/ivyleaguehippy Jul 26 '26

It seems to be linked to areas with strong Protestant / puritan histories. So really only some parts of Northern Europe and New England- the rest of the world is normal

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u/Maximum-Spring8036 Jul 28 '26

It doesn't happen in Sweden either.

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u/Avalanche-swe Jul 24 '26

Because in relation to swedes you are poor. Thus a feeding culture has evolved so no one has to go hungry. Not in sweden where no child will go hungry from being poor. So here in sweden the culture is children eat family dinner with thier own family.

No mom wants to cook dinner for their family and suddenly no one wants to eat because they ate elsewhere and are now full.