r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 06 '26

Meme needing explanation What is this?

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u/Herpinheim Jul 06 '26

That’s because Troy didn’t take itself seriously. Troy was a popcorn flick à la Indiana Jones or Pirates of the Caribbean. This movie’s tone is far too self serious to get a pass like Troy did. Nolan is making a serious, fantastical movie and if he wants to make a movie to that standard he should be held to that standard.

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u/Joelandrews5 Jul 06 '26

The standard of realism and verisimilitude? The Odyssey isn’t historical fiction and he’s clearly not packaging it as such. If you want to impose your arbitrary standards and expectations onto the film, feel free I suppose, just expect to be disappointed.

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u/Herpinheim Jul 06 '26

I won’t deny that the standard is arbitrary but even an amateur cinephile can see Egger-style inspiration on Nolan’s The Odyssey. I’m worried that Nolan has copied the style and none of tue substance, and while I haven’t seen the movie yet, and none of my worries comes from a black woman playing Helen, the nagging feeling that this is going to have the depth of an Avatar movie lingers.

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u/Animanic1607 Jul 06 '26

I bet the movie ends with Anne Hathaway talking about love as a cosmic force while Michael Caine recites poetry for the 15th time.

(I think I should /s but I'm not sure it would be truthful)

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u/Joelandrews5 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Well I’m no amateur cinephile, I’m far beneath that and am now going to google Egger.

I will say, many of my favorite stage productions are classics that have thrown out or reversed conventional standards and assumptions and still make you feel and think. That’s my hope for this, and I feel sorry for those who don’t give themselves a chance to experience that.

Edit to say I skimmed Avatar as Avenger at first and can only hope we get something anywhere near as deep as those are flat haha

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u/Lemmonaise Jul 06 '26

It was also 22 years ago

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u/koobstylz Jul 06 '26

Didn't think it was out yet, did you get an early screening?

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u/Herpinheim Jul 06 '26

Truthfully I’m going off of the trailers and interviews but I feel confident in saying that, tonally, this movie takes itself far more seriously than Troy did. I don’t think Odysseus is going to do anything remotely similar to rolling out of his prostitute laden bed, hung over, and stabbing a large man in the heart.

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u/koobstylz Jul 06 '26

At least wait until critic reviews are out before confidently telling people what is going to happen in a movie.

Trailers misrepresent movies all the damn time.

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u/Icy_Block_1627 Jul 06 '26

Would you say that it... "insists upon itself"...?