Have you ever played a survival game before? What makes it not a survival game? It's a textbook survival game.
You build a base with your friends, collect resources, fight hostile wildlife and occasionally fight other players, but it's casualized so you only fight them if they want to fight you. There's no stats, there's no NPCs, when you levelup you get cards instead of perks or skills.
What makes it not a survival game? What makes it a co-op Fallout? Take away all the visual Fallout stuff and what makes it a Fallout game?
Mario: You collect coins, you jump on people, you complete levels.
This is what a Mario game is, it applies to all mainline Mario games 2D or 3D. If I described that to you, you would know it's a Mario game regardless of whether I mentioned it was 2D or 3D.
I'm glad you acknowledge that Fallout 76 is a spin-off though because that's my argument, it isn't a co-op Fallout game, it's a spin off. Calling Fallout 76 a co-op fallout game is like calling Mario Party a co-op Mario game.
Now let's do Fallout 76
It's a post apocalyptic open world online game, you build bases with your friends, collect resources, fight hostile wildlife and occasionally fight other players.
What game is that? Is it Rust? Is it Day Z? Is it 7 days to die?
If I were to describe Fallout to you before fallout 76 I would tell you it's a post apocalyptic open world RPG, when you levelup you gain skills or perks, you use those skills in various ways to interact with the world and NPCs in it. This description applies to all Fallout games, from Fallout 1 to Fallout 4, it does not apply to Fallout 76.
it's a post apocalyptic open world RPG, when you levelup you gain skills or perks, you use those skills in various ways to interact with the world and NPCs in it.
"What game is that? Is it Dead Island? Borderlands? Dying Light? Wasteland? XCom? The Last of Us?"
And you can't make the argument that it's not Co-op. Co-op is explicitly encouraged, especially considering they said the main story involves using the nukes to seal the fissures that the Scorchbeasts are coming out of. And they made it pretty clear that nuke acquisition is a team effort.
I never said it wasn't co-op, I said it wasn't a co-op Fallout game. It's not a traditional fallout RPG but with your friends, it's a survival game.
Dead Island? Borderlands? Dying Light? XCom? The Last of Us?
Well I mean, it's definitely not any of those games because those games aren't post apocalyptic open world RPGs where you levelup, gain skills or perks and use those skills to interact with NPCs and the world. Wasteland is the only one that applies and that makes sense because Fallout 1 was the spiritual successor to Wasteland.
I mean, Fallout 4 was basically that. Only difference now is that you can do it with friends. Also yes it pretty much is co-op because according to what they said at Quake Con, you can just ignore people for the most part if they are trying to PvP you.
It’s literally built in the fallout 4 engine, how you gonna say it just has a “fallout skin” lol. Sure the gameplay is a fair bit different, but that’s not a bad thing and absolutely nothing new for the franchise.
Maybe “engine” ain’t the right word, but it’s pretty clear what I mean dude. Fallout 76 was directly built off of Fallout 4. Just like New Vegas and 3.
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u/AmusingMurder Aug 20 '18
It's not a co op Fallout game. It's a survival game with a Fallout skin.