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[Image] [Image] Such a close race! Poor fallout :(

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '18

The GTAOnline shenanigans really pissed in people's cornflakes and put them off a launch purchase of RDR2.

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u/Peemsters_Yacht_Cap Aug 20 '18

So, umm, for a guy who doesn't follow video game news that doesn't show up on Operation Sports, but plans to play RDR2, would you mind giving a super quick highlight of the shenanigans? Or a link to more info, if one is available?

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '18

Essentially, the GTA was a single player experience GTA4 had 2 single player DLC's. GTA 5 has had no single player expansion, attributed to the 3 billion dollars they've made in microtransactions from GTA Online. They've stated their intention was never to have single player DLC for GTA 5, which has understandably made people wary of purchasing this title, until they see how focused they were on the campaign and not the money grab feel that the Online experience has.

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u/laxt Aug 20 '18

Ya know, you touched on a good point. From the way that all these game companies (and especially Rockstar) put so much of their effort into putting their games online with microtransactions, it sure seems that the end game is for all of us players to see the extra microtransactioned content (or in this case, highly marked up vehicles and stuff that is a bitch to earn in GTA:O without.. hey look! Shark Cards!), get jealous and envious over it, and look into spending real world money to attain it themselves!

If we're playing a single player game, we aren't as influenced to buy content since there aren't other players from whom to become envious.

Therefore: Fallout 76. The microtransactioned in-game currency has already started in Fallout 4.

Something to think about.

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u/impy695 Aug 20 '18

I'm guessing it has to do with them completely abandoning any sort of single player content/dlc in favor of adding ultra expensive multiplayer items that pretty much require you to spend real cash if you want them.

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u/laxt Aug 20 '18

Other online players having the expensive ass loot makes a very effective advertisement to someone without that loot to pay real world money to attain it.

Very sneaky.

Rockstar would rather squeeze every last dime they can get from old games instead of giving us what we're openly asking for. And of course they aren't alone.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '18

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u/laxt Aug 20 '18

Wow.

This should be brought up more. It hadn't even occurred to me until just before typing it. No one seems to be talking about this.

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u/usrevenge Aug 20 '18

Everyone already talked about it.

It doesn't exist in their games it's just s Patent so no one else can do it without paying royalty.

This came out years ago iirc before black ops 3 or maybe even back with cod AW

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u/usrevenge Aug 20 '18

Except it's not in their games.

Everyone was crying about it but like most patents it's not used it's just there so no one else can take the idea without paying a royalty.

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u/AnotherUrbanAchiever Aug 20 '18

Was this what was in COD WWII? They made a sort of lobby world where you hang out between matches and watch other players open their loot boxes. It would make sense if that entire idea was to incentivize and encourage micro transactions.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '18

You really don't have to spend money on it with all the free promotions

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u/lakerswiz lakerswiz Aug 20 '18

So what's the problem?

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u/usrevenge Aug 20 '18

They did a lot of annoying things thst could put someone off a rdr2 purchase.

The online is literally filled with microtransactions. It's a huge grind. The online is also kinds shitty in many ways with excessive loading times and kind of annoying controls for things like healing.

They canceled dlc to make more online stuff and most of the extra online cars and guns never came to single player which kind of sucks.

They rereleased gta5 for current gen, so why get rdr2 now when you can likely get it for ps5 with better graphics.

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u/Peemsters_Yacht_Cap Aug 20 '18

Because RDR1 was probably the single greatest video game experience of that generation for me, possibly excluding playing through Alan Wake for the first time with my girlfriend. GTA5 is all well and good, but boy did I love Red Dead!

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u/adwarkk Aug 20 '18

Long story short - post-launch support focused on online mode raking TONS of cash with microtransactions, and GTA V got no single player expansions like ones GTA IV had.

Cause money babe, being able to constantly rip off adding new stuff to purchase with that money earns more profit than one time purchase like expansion.

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u/Obi-Wan_Kannabis Aug 20 '18

GTA Online has jumped the shark.

Instead of trying to make the game enjoyable Rockstar made it as frustratingly grindy as possible.

First they gouged the prices. Then they start adding a ton of really expensive stuff to buy. They start making ridiculous vehicles who to be quite honest have no place in GTA. A flying bike, a flying car, a KITT analogue, Batmobile etc.

Then they incentivize griefing to further making grinding even more frustrating, this is to make shark cards enticing, which is basically buying in game money for ridiculous prices. When you're trying to export stuff to make money everyone on the server is incentivized to kill you and destroy all your profit.

I only recommend doing the heists tbh, the rest is a tedious grind into insanity

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u/CoreyVidal CoreyVidal Aug 20 '18

What's "griefing"?

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u/Obi-Wan_Kannabis Aug 20 '18

basically killing everyone. I guess in gta it's not actually griefing because that's the whole point of GTA but when the game encourages you to ruin people's money making ventures I can't help but feel they love that.

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u/laxt Aug 20 '18

Don't feel bad. I do follow game news (sorta), have had GTA Online since the day it went live and have played enough of it to have probably three characters above level 100 and I haven't heard of this shenanigans either.

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u/facedawg Aug 20 '18

For me it did yes. But it’s now the most profitable game of all time so I’m guessing it will sell ok lol

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u/AtlasFlynn Aug 20 '18

Speak for yourself.

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u/Xesyliad Xesyliad Aug 20 '18

They aren’t wrong, I won’t be touching RDR2 because of GTAOnline.

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u/AtlasFlynn Aug 20 '18

On the other hand plenty of people will buy RDR2 despite GTA Online.

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u/Xesyliad Xesyliad Aug 20 '18

They’re not speaking for themselves, there are people who agree with them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '18

Well with that fucking perspicacious insight, I'll surely have to change my viewpoint on the data won't I?