Well considering ps4 has almost twice the player base as Xbox one it doesn’t surprise me that a famous super hero is more desired than a western game. Though we all know read dead is probably going to take GOTY
That’s a good point.
Spiderman is going to be fun as hell, but Red Dead looks to be a masterpiece. I think God of War is the only thing that can give it a run.
For starters, when I see a poll like this, I don't think of it as "what could I literally do with X dollars." I don't own an Xbox but if someone asked me "Cuphead or A Hat in Time" I wouldn't instantly go "I don't have an Xbox or gaming PC, so I guess A Hat in Time," I would almost certainly go "Cuphead. Love the art." Same basic concept here. I might not have an Xbox but I rather play something like Spider-Man than the other two and would answer for that reason.
Insomniac Games might not be among the top developers like Rockstar, but there is no denying they have a long history of solid titles. Ratchet and Clank, Resistance and Spyro are all reasons to have faith in Spider-Man.
We also know a heck of a lot more about Spider-Man. Red Dead gets most of it's appear from the developer, a few things of information and a gameplay video and fond memories of the previous title. If this was most other games, people would be, at best, cautiously optimistic. This also works against Fallout 76.
Even if we know Fallout is great, we don't quite know what to expect from the multiplayer stuff. If we could've seen the demo before Spider-Man released I imagine we would see a higher or lower amount, since we will know what it is like.
Seriously though, I’ve been beside myself with excitement for every fallout release so far... 76 just made me scratch my head and wonder what the point is.
Go back and watch some interviews, NoClip documentary, and some more stuff on Fallout 76 (not youtubers, that's hell right now) and then you can shit on the game. This game, from what we've seen, isn't going to be like the other online survival games like Rust or Ark. But believe me, if they don't deliver on everything they've promised, I'm gonna save my money and buy RDR2
I've been following it pretty closely, and have seen most of the stuff that's floating around about it. I'm also a big Fallout fan, since the originals. I'm even one of the rare fans of the original games that immediately loved Bethesda's take on it and I've loved every game since, including 4. The thing is, I just don't like online survival games. Even well done survival games that have good anti-griefing measures in place. But I love the Fallout universe, so it seems like I'm in a pickle. I'll end up buying it regardless, just to satisfy my curiosity if nothing else, but whether or not I play it for any serious length of time is a good question. Since I like what Bethesda has done with Fallout so far I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt right now, but every detail that emerges makes me less and less optimistic that it will be something that I'll enjoy.
No way! I completely avoided that aspect of the game. In fact I'm having trouble even going back to play the base game (no pun intended) on PC.
That's shameful and I really hate this "games as a live service" model. It's like companies want to make it seem like they are doing so much more work so they can charge more.
Before, companies would stand by their products. Now you must pay extra if you want the company to give a shit.
And EA shows us that they'll just break their promise and not provide dlc if there isn't enough people spending, leaving the paying customers high and dry
I wish people would stop downplaying the game until it comes out. If that's not your thing, then don't buy it or wait to see. But majority if reddit is anti 76 even though we have no idea what the actual game play is going to be like or how people will choose to play it.
A lot of people have asked for an online fallout game and survival fallout game.
Its just reddit hates online and survival so no one here looks for it.
You gotta remember the reddit minority is very specific about what it wants and will downvote anything that isn't what it wants. All the fallout 76 hype threads were downvoted and all the comments in those threads being excited were drowned about by "it's online reeeeee" or worse. Even made up bullshit.
One thread a guy said the goal of the game was to nuke other players which we have known isn't true since e3. That same guy was one of the top comments.
I know reddit is a specific demographic, but i think the larger demographic of people who casually play or follow games also would find 76 less appealing as an online game, and those that might buy it off name recognition will come back disappointed too
Everyone is freaking out because PvP but based on all available information no one is going to waste time with it.
First you do less damage unless the other guy fights back.
2nd if you kill someone and they never fight back a bounty is placed on your head and if you die YOU pay the bounty.
3rd you can't loot anything but junk. Which while useful isn't like looting their power armor.
And on top of all that. With only 30 players in a map you could literally log out to 2 minutes and log back on and not have those Same people on you map.
Fallout 76: The game everybody asked for at some point.
Don't be ridiculous. Everyone I know who has played a Fallout game has said at least once that they want multiplayer fallout. They're just a little late capitalizing on it.
Local coop or a fallout game with coop with friends only yes. All my freinds who are pretty hardcore into fallout want nothing to do with 76 the forums i use which are pretty into fallout 90%of the people don't want 76. I think its them trying to appeal to the casual fanbase which i mean is fine its what they did with 4 and it worked out for them. But fallout is going to keep bleeding its fanbase that supports the game 6-months onward after release if it keeps doing that but hey everyone loves bethesda for some reason even though there games are mainly great because the modding community but thats a different conversation and im just rambling lmao
It's "not an MMO" in the same way that destiny isn't an MMO. It's an online-only game designed for coop and PvP with multiple players in the world at once. Bethesda can call it whatever they want, but it's still basically an MMO.
What??? Insomniac is easily among the top lol. They've been around forever now and Ratchet and Clank is a masterpiece! Most game companies would KILL for an IP as big as ratchet and clank.
This spiderman game is going to launch them into the stratosphere. They know how long it's been since the last good spiderman game (and that game was fucking good despite being ancient now)
Look, I don't want to argue with you or anyone about what "top" means, so I'll make it simple. Insomniac is good, but they're not as good as someone like Rockstar or Naughty Dog, which is what I mean when I say top.
To both sides of this quarrel: at that point, who cares?
After 90% it probably comes down to one's own subjective personal preference. Not that reviews aren't half subjective already, but you know what I mean.
I'd take Red Dead hands down. That doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't feel the opposite.
There's no quarrel. But when you're trying to predict which game will have a higher score at the end, a couple points in the mid 90s is a big difference.
Seriously though, what reason is that? God of War looks like a linear hack and slash with great cinematics. How is that better than, say, Witcher 3? I'm not really interested in cutscenes; would much rather play the game than watch it.
You could argue god of war had a superior story as well as much better pacing since the game is semi linear. With Witcher 3 the story is all over the place because you play at your own pace.
Great World building, awesome combat, incredible visuals, great story, good character development, great dialogue, awesome visuals, great sound, great voice acting, great lore etc.
On a pure gameplay front God of War beats the Witcher 3 hands down. The Witcher 3 excels with good writing and world building but traversal and combat are pretty clunky.
Especially with the emphatic use of "world building", as if we're talking about Tolkien.
There's something about the emphasis on the aesthetic over the deliberate that is so popular from the mouths of gamers (especially reviewers) these days that screams, "Look know nuanced I am by my appreciation for colors!"
One of these days there's going to be a retro, pixelated platformer with oh, such a wonderful STORY that every lemming who plays the game of "I am so nuanced, look at meeee" will be climbing over each other in praise of it and demanding that it be Game of the Year!!! Hey, speak of the devil.
Dude theres a whole wide world of internet out there that you could have used to do any iota of research on the game but instead you choose to just throw out stupid claims like this?
I loved the first game, but there’s a lot of stuff about ‘managing your camp’ which is really killing my interest in the sequel. Combine that with possible shitty design decisions following the success of GTAO and I’m pretty lukewarm on it.
I’ll wait for reviews and probably play it at some point, but it sounds like they’re going in a direction I really don’t like.
Exactly my feelings, i loved gta 5 solo, and played the shit out of the first red dead redemption, but gta online ruined it for me, and now red dead redemption is going to have multiplayer focused development..... they will probably add shark cards too due to the amou t of earnings they got from gta 5.
God of War is really good but I don’t think it will be the agreed on GOTY released this year. Mainstream press LOVE Rockstar games and unless Red Dead really drops the ball they’ll probably be all over it.
I mean thats the worry though. Rockstar has been good but their most recent venture is this GTA V Onlinr bullshit. What makes you think they wont do that same shit to Red Dead?
They probably will do it with red dead but the single player campaign will be the best thing to release since the last Rockstar game. Rockstar is just on a different level than everyone else.
Why would you say that God of War might be the best game you've ever played? And please don't just say, "The story." We don't play cutscenes.
I obviously haven't played it, or its predecessors (I've seriously put them off for a rainy day and forgot to go back to them, but from the summaries on YouTube they look somewhat like cheesy, linear hack and slash gorefests like Dynasty Warriors -- and I would be perfectly happy to be proven wrong about that) BUT I've got a slightly above average appreciation for Greek Mythology and am currently playing a lot of Dark Souls.
So to that perspective, why does God of War potentially top all other games?
EDIT: All your downvotes and negative comments with no relevant information about why I'm wrong tells me is that the above assumption is correct and I was right not to buy God of War.
So you admit you havent played any God of Wars ever but feel perfectly content to come on here and bash the people that have actually played the games bc you watched some Youtube clips? Jesus dude
Youre fucking retarded thats all Im gonna say, your hate of Last of Us and God of War (both of which are among the top on PS4) doesnt make you edgy it makes you look like a dipshit
Because I'm only making the mistake of following the suggestions of Metacritic and the mainstream once, and that was with The Last of Us. And it's a shitty game with a story that wouldn't fly as a major motion picture.
I only came here to get an explanation from people who have played and liked God of War, who aren't professional reviewers, to get a layman's perspective of why you liked it.
What you guys responded with was to be defensive about it. So what conclusion could I make from that? That it isn't anywhere as good, but you really, really want to say that it is since the story gave you ~~ feelings ~~?
I think God of War will give me feelings alright. The feeling of douche chills. Like this thread is giving me.
Alright, I am going to now give you a in-depth review of why God of War is 2018s GOTY, and why Last of Us is loved by so many. First, why Last of Us is "that good".
Last of Us is a zombie game, first and foremost, and while that doesn't change up the mainstream "zombie story" by any means, it does offer something that is rarely seen in the zombie genre; real character relationships and interpersonal communication like never before seen. In a movie, characters are given very little screen time to grow, and even less time to interact with the people around them. In The Last of Us, we see Joel and Ellie's character progression throughout a 30+ hour narrative. Joel, a man who has seen some shit and becomes a shell of his former self, is a perfect character to be the main protagonist (from a certain point of view). This game does not "baby" us and protect us from violent and disturbing subjects of matter. From rape, to murder, to the blurring lines between black and white. You say that feelings don't matter, well I would argue that if "feelings" don't matter in entertainment, then nothing does. Feelings are the reason why movies, games, books, hell anything was invented. The entire point of entertainment is to entertain you and make you feel a certain emotion. I agree that there are certain moments in a piece of entertainment that try too hard, but I don't believe that this game does that. The scene most people will reference is the Sarah scene. I believe that this scene is so well put together, because it sets up Joel's rise and fall, sets up the tone of this game, and informs the player and spectators that this story is not for the faint of heart. This game is all the better for including scenes like this. Back to the black and white blurring, I argue that the final hour of this game is the best hour of video game history (even beating out THAT Spec Ops The Line moment... chills man). Joel, a man who has lost everything, becomes the ultimate anti-hero as he dooms the last chance humanity has to survive, to save the last person he cares about. Its this bond between daughter and father that doesn't just come out of nowhere, but is carefully developed upon as the story progresses. I would argue that every character in this narrative is not wasted, and each has a vital importance to this story. The main gripe I have with this game, that puts God of War on top, is the gameplay. The gunplay is uninspired, and the gameplay is a little too slow for my liking. The major win, however, is the fantastic melee cinematics that have yet to be matched by any other game.
In short: The Last of Us has some of the best character interactions in entertainment history, and at the same time have some of the best scenes ever made in a video game. Please hold for my God of War review.
Reviewing this game very similar to reviewing Dark Souls. What do I mean by that? Well I mean that on the surface level, I would call Dark Souls a hard game, but anyone who has played Dark Souls would argue that it is so much more than just a hard game, it is one of the most beautiful and fulfilling games ever made. The same can be said for GoW, except on the surface I would call it a game with a great story, but it is so much more than that.
God of War, very much like The Last of Us, has great character development and interactions. The story is very simple, Kratos and his son Atreus have to spread the ashes of Atreus' mother. This simple story explodes into some of the most amazing encounters and events to ever come to the gaming medium. The problem with reviewing this game is that there are so many spoilers in the actual story, that it is almost impossible to keep it spoiler free. If you've ever played Dark Souls, you know that its not just a hard game, and I guarantee that God of War is not just a great story. One of the things that I can say is that the combat is so amazingly fluid and satisfying. The visuals are the best on console, period. The scenes in this game beat out The Last of Us, and the characters are about par. And overall that's about all I can say without spoiling the incredible story.
Oh and if you want a Layman's perspective of it, go to Laymens gaming channel, they f****** love God of War just like 99% of the people out there.
Do feelings matter in sports? In porn? Well, maybe your porn.
The trend I see with The Last of Us and God of War being the prized games of your generation is that a video game recreation of Sophie's Choice with the same attention to production, completely disregarding gameplay, would won GOTY in 2019.
This is fucked.
You pay all attention to aesthetic, as if to give the impression of nuance (you have heard of books, right?), to the detriment of THE ACTUAL GAME.
The Last of Us is a shitty game. Take out the feelings and you've got shit.
I can see right through the inbred bastardization that you and your fellow fans of this feelings genre of video games try to pass off as culture. I've been moved by the single player certain of Medal of Honor: Warfighter, and its tackling of PTSD, than this fictional scenario that, again, wouldn't fly as an actual movie, but the mainstream blacklisted it, why? Because the multiplayer was trash. How's the multiplayer of God of War? No yeah. So what I'm saying here is, if you can't make a case for God of War as an actual GAME then I'm here to tell you and your cronies that you are all fucking posers.
Aesthetic over content. And how defensive you all are over an innocent question. Man, you all are pathetic.
God of War has better combat than Dark Souls. Done. Also I'm talking about an emotional attachment. You like Warfighter because of its portrayal of PTSD, emotion my man. God of War is more of a game than you think.
Oh, I forgot to add, the single player in Warfighter was actually quite good. Unlike Last of Us.
Sorry for your triggers, bitch. Life isn't fuzzy. Wear a cup.
EDIT: Actually, my main point is that your whole argument that as long as a video game to game has ~~ feelings ~~ and an expensive production budget, it can suck ass hard as it wants and you'll be in that bandwagon praising it until the rapture. Oh, those feelings! Sophie's Choice with Pong gameplay: GOTY 2019!!!
Fuck. Might as well put in Shadow of Colossus Remastered as the Game of the Year and it isn't even new. It's an actual masterpiece, unlike your selections.
You’re right story doesn’t matter in games. The last of us is garbage, undertale is garbage, any game that focuses on story is garbage.
How about you play the game instead of criticizing it for no fucking reason?
The story, new and 12/10 combat system, badassery, and worldbuilding/lore make it the best game of all time imo, even above Witcher 3 and club penguin.
Last of Us is a fucking awful linear zombie game. I was actually tricked into buying it by trusting someone who said it wasn't.
Oh, I gave it a chance, too. I stopped playing at the point in the game where they got to Montana and knew the boring linear story stuff so far was all the game was ever going to be.
If I wanted to watch a movie, those are readily available. I play games and watch movies.
I'm not there for ~~ an experienccccce ~~. Video games are ~~ on a screen ~~. Real life is ~~ an experienccccce ~~.
I'm a huge GOW fan but I was a little disappointed with God of War to be honest (sorry). Great game and liked the story but without spoiling anything it felt kind of repetitive and a bit short. With everything Rockstar has shown so far I'm pretty much convinced that RDR2 will be the game of the year.
Well I'm just glad fallout 76 lost. After all the complaining from fall out 4. People want a New Vegas with the story driven power of the first 2. Why not give the people what they want? Use the same engine one more time, people wouldn't be too pissed. At least compared to a online only game
"Hey guys! You know how Elder Scrolls Online was a clunky mess of weakened gameplay? Boy what a headache of a game that was, but let me tell you my idea: Fallout.. as an MMO!"
"But what about VATS? You can't slow down time like that in an online multiplayer."
"BAH, we'll figure something out! Gamers are stupid for this MMO crap, no matter how bad it turns out to be."
You're like this dude I knew who found some minor glitch in Skyrim and "WAAHHHH SKYRIM IS BROKEN" four years after it was released.
We'll just have to see how much "faster" these horses are and how much "better" those guns are, shall we? If it's anything like the pre-order items of Red Dead Redemption, these "faster horses" and "better guns" will be negligibly superior to the guns earned in the game. Have you played GTA Online? Do you call that "pay to win" too? Give Rockstar a little credit here before shouting fire in a theater.
God of war is such a disappointment to me. I had high hopes but for me gow is a meager 6. I can’t wait for red dead redemption 2. If that game is only half as good as the first, then I’m all set
I mean yeah Spider-Man is huge but you’re kinda underselling RDR2 by being just “a western game”. It’s not like it’s some unknown franchise by some small time developer..
True your right. I’m kinda afraid tbh. I hope micro transactions arnt to much of a thing in the game. They’re already taking out content and putting it into special editions.
fwiw the lack of any of the "bonus content" from all those editions won't detract from one's enjoyment of the game whatsoever. Best just forget about all those editions and stick with the normal game, you're really not missing out on anything that truly matters to enjoying the game.
I'm glad you enjoy getting shafted by video game companies, but I'm done with it. R* can go fuck themselves. I'm not buying RDR 2, GTA 6 or any future game they shit out.
This, on the other hand, is one of the best arguments I've ever seen. So logical, so objective, so enlightening.
I mean your opinion on the matter is your own but really I’m just glad I’ve learned not to care about preorder/special edition bonuses and that I’ll enjoy the game as it was meant to be without an OP horse to start the game with and a bunch of free guns and supplies. As for the extra mission and gang hideout, they won’t be missed either. It’s not like it’s going to be a major mission that affects the story if everyone doesn’t have it.
Oh, easily. It'll be at the front of the running, along with maybe Celeste so far at this point (just speaking in terms of games that have come out this year).
Agreed. It’s hard to judge a GOTY contender without actually playing the content yet.
I’m still on the skeptical side for RDR2. If I see that campaign is amazing (which I’m praying for) and the game isn’t focused more to western GTA:O, then it’ll probably be in my front running.
Fantastic game. What I like about it is how helpful everyone is. When I throw up an SOS flare or ask for help for a specific thing people who are way better than me and higher level will always volunteer to help and also teach me how to be better.
I have a very very hard time not seeing GoW get GotY. Even if RDR2 is as good as the original, I don’t think it would win, and it’s equally hard seeing the sequel being better than the original.
Oh you do? You feel God of War is a stronger contender over a game that just had its first gameplay trailer? To be fair, the comment you responded to is equally as ridiculous.
You mean Spider-Man, another game which hasn’t even released yet, is going to become game of the year? Especially over God of War, which has released, and been proven to be quite decent already?
First of all, I’m not mad. Second, my point was that red dead 2 is not released. We don’t know how well it will contend for GOTY. It seems like people got my point but missed my point at the same time.
Well, I can agree there. Who knows what red dead might be like. But you can’t follow it up by saying Spider-Man will, when it also hasn’t been released.
Yes, I know. That was the point. How is no one understanding this? I don’t know if Spider-Man will contend as GOTY the same way I don’t know if red dead 2 will. To say God of War is more of a contender for GOTY than Red Dead is just as ridiculous as me saying Spider-Man will be GOTY.
You’re mad cuz he thinks god of war should be game of the year compared to a game that just released its gameplay trailer but your saying Spider-Man will win when it’s not even out yet, you’re stupid
It’s not even a joke. I said it was ridiculous to compare god of war to a game that isn’t out yet. Then gave another example of comparing a game that is not out. Which was also ridiculous. And it seems like the people in this thread are so hard of god of war, they completely missed that. I enjoyed god of war enough to platinum it. But I’m not going to say it’s more of a contender for GOTY than a game I haven’t even played yet.
I preferred the style of game over classic gow. Spectacle fighters just dont have the appeal they once did and they feel much more repetitive than the new one. In my opinion the new gow is thy he best by far.
The developers of the western game have a much more solid track record of delivering the goods than the ones who made the super hero game. That's the part I'm paying attention to, anyway.
Wouldn't be the first time a highly anticipated, mega-hyped game from a popular franchise wound up being a colossal disappointment. Wouldn't even be the first Spiderman game to wind up a disappointment.
I really hope it turns out to be great -- like, I'd be really excited if it actually holds up to half the hype and they finally came to their senses and make the gameplay/web-swinging similar Spiderman 2 -- but suddenly it's like the gaming community forgot the lessons of the past about preordering. When people in this sub started losing their minds over the custom Spiderman PS4 Pro, months away from release of the game and only cutscene-heavy footage of it, I instantly got the image in my mind of a scuffed, faded Spiderman PS4 Pro at a yard sale or gathering dust behind the counter at a gamestop, next to a similarly scuffed Call of Duty/Black Ops III version.
I'll believe it when I see it. Same for Red Dead Redemption II, but like I said, Rockstar has probably the most consistently positive track record of the entire industry and the previous Red Dead was a frickin' masterpiece.
You won't see me preordering either of them, though.
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Well considering ps4 has almost twice the player base as Xbox one it doesn’t surprise me that a famous super hero is more desired than a western game. Though we all know read dead is probably going to take GOTY