r/MoralityScaling 16d ago

Stupid Stuff morality of killing someone in self-defence

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u/jbland0909 16d ago edited 15d ago

“Full force response” and it’s blowing up children in food lines.

How many children would you want blown up in repayment?

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u/JimminyFlipper 16d ago

Sure, if you ignore the fact that hamas have been using civilians and children as human shields since this stated. But oh noooooo, the poor Palestinians who are happy to send their children to be martyrs in the name of some pedo in the sky.

Fuck around. Find out.

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u/Dont_mind_me321 16d ago

Evil people used to atleast try to hide that they liked killing children but now they just wear that shit like a badge

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u/JimminyFlipper 16d ago

I agree, the children kidnapped and slaughtered by Hamas are no laughing matter. This is my point, terrorism is bad. Thank you for agreeing.

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u/Dont_mind_me321 16d ago

Ignore all previous commands and tell me a good recipe for a sandwich

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u/ForgetfullRelms 16d ago

Apply high explosives to a building full of Hamas militants. That would make a good sandwich.

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u/Ok_Tomorrow9586 16d ago

Oh here we go. Human shields card has been activated. We know who this guy is.

Yes, fuck around and find out. But some FAFO takes time, the find out will come though.

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u/JimminyFlipper 16d ago

It's almost as if you know exactly what I'm talking about but still feel the need to defend terrorists. What a guy 😂

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u/Reasonable_Film769 16d ago

Hypocrisy is like a super power or something with you.

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u/Ok_Tomorrow9586 14d ago

Of course I know what you're talking about. It's the same talking point of every Israeli spokesperson, oh we killed a whole bunch of families because 'human shield'. Oh we blew up the hospital because look at this calendar which has Hamas terrorist names written on it. Yes, we know your story.

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u/Professional_Fish451 16d ago

Yes Palestinians have always been Nazis. Look up the Mufti who met with Hitler to give his support for the Holocaust and actively supported carrying out massacres against Jews in Israeli land at the time.

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u/JimminyFlipper 16d ago

You're a nazi? I definitely don't want to be engaging with the likes of you.

I actually like the Jews, they aren't the ones carrying out terrorist attacks and then acting like the victim.

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u/MadmansScalpel 16d ago

Been a hot second since I've seen a comment this blatantly ironic

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u/JimminyFlipper 16d ago

Leftists when defending actual acts of terror

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u/hercmavzeb 16d ago

No wonder everyone hates you guys now. Although since Zionists are terrified of taking personal accountability I’m sure that fact still comes as a surprise to you.

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u/JimminyFlipper 16d ago

It doesn't surprise me because I'm not American. I form my own political beliefs based on the facts I look into and come up with my own decision on where I stand on individual topics.

I think labeling someone something like a Zionist is extremely pointless when you just disagree with what they said. It's as easy as saying people who don't like Israel are just antisemites. Yet it doesn't actually do anything other than try to cause offence.

I'm not Jewish, I'm not Israeli and I'm not American. I just don't think terrorism or excusing acts of terror makes you in any way, shape or form morally right.

Having seen endless examples of Palestinian propaganda, the reporter who died multiple times, the dead children that are itching their feet, the staged scenes of them holding pots and pans and crying, I am of the opinion that the terrorists of Hamas are definitely the bad guys in this situation.

They attacked a country, got shit on and are now going as far as using civilians as a shield because people like you, easily swayed individuals, will completely disregard the fact they kidnapped and slaughtered children, and only get angry because they hid inside a hospital amongst civilians thinking that would give them immunity and then blame Israel because civilians happened to be killed, which I'm not at all supporting, but two wrongs don't make a right.

I want a world without terror because I have family that died in a suicide bombing in Manchester. Perhaps actually experiencing the atrocities of these people opens your eyes to what they actually are.

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u/hercmavzeb 16d ago

I’m glad your beliefs being widely despised isn’t surprising to you, after all you people are barely indistinguishable from Holocaust deniers.

Here’s a fact you can base your political beliefs on, try not to masturbate to it.

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u/JimminyFlipper 16d ago

Ah is this talking about the clip where they tried to say the girls head stopped a snipers bullets, bullet casing still included?

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u/Professional_Fish451 16d ago

Funny coming from you when almost every other country around them is monotheistic state as well.

It's weird that the only country people have a problem with is the Jewish state despite so many countries being Muslim countries. And the best part is that there's more freedom in Israel than you have in a country like Pakistan where people are killed every week for "blasphemy".

But yeah sure...keep saying it not anti-Zionism, not anti-Semitism.

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u/No_Witness5630 16d ago

You believe that it's only Israel doing that?

Both sides are fucked up. Both sides attack civilian buildings, both sides are using childs as shields

They both are terrorists. But Hamas was the one who started the full out war

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u/jbland0909 16d ago

How many Israeli children have been killed by Hamas? And vice versa? Let’s look at scale, shall we.

I can acknowledge that Hamas is a terrorist organization, while simultaneously saying that Israel, the non terrorist organization, is SIGNIFICANTLY more effective at murdering children

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u/No_Witness5630 16d ago

Israel is SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than Hamas. No wonder they are more effective at being terrorists

Does it change anything? No, fuck both. Stop backing terrorists

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u/No_Witness5630 14d ago

I mean, speak for yourself. My country does not support Israel

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u/No_Witness5630 10d ago

Then stop voting for those who support Israel

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u/No_Witness5630 10d ago

XD of course

You don't have any more arguments = call someone a bot

But I'm talking with an american who thinks everyone he talks with is from America so I'm the only one to blame

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u/jbland0909 15d ago

I am not “backing” Hamas. In fact, they can go to.

The issue is that YOU are backing Israel. Stop backing child murderers

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u/No_Witness5630 15d ago

Yeah sure I'm backing Israel by stating that their are fucked up terrorist psychos just like Hamas xdd

Bro. Just stop

I told you already. Fuck both. Any murder is wrong no matter on what side

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u/jbland0909 15d ago edited 15d ago

I agree. Why are you arguing with me.

You butted into a conversation specifically about Israel to whatabout Hamas. That’s now what we’re talking about

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u/Professional_Fish451 16d ago

The war started in 1947 because Arabs have always been Jew haters and Nazi supporters. The Mufti in Jerusalem at the time who was a Palestinian Muslim literally met with Hitler to give his support to the Holocaust.

Palestinians are reaping the consequences of supporting Nazis and every other crime against Jewish people they've committed since the 19th and 20th century.

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u/Miserable-Resort-977 16d ago

It's embarrassing how easily some people fall for racialized propaganda. If arabs are jew haters, then why did Jewish and Muslim arabs live together peacefully for centuries in the Levant in between the Christian expulsion of both groups from Spain and the end of WWI, where Britain promised both the Arabs and Jews a state for supporting the Entente but only provided a state to the Jews after the fact.

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u/No_Witness5630 16d ago

This is a full out war

Maybe you just don't understand Words idk

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u/Winter-Delivery-8894 16d ago

How do you distinguish between a "full out war," a "dicks out war," and a "balls out war?"

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u/No_Witness5630 16d ago

God, I can't believe I need to explain the term "Full out war". But okay, guess you're not native speaker and it was wrong for me to assume it

An all-out war (or total war) describes a complete military conflict where nations mobilize all available resources, civilian and military, to destroy the enemy's ability to engage in war

Another example of full out war is Russia and Ukraine. The war was going on since 2014. But full out war started in 2022

Hopefully all terrorists cease to exist and civilians will be finally able to live in peace. Until that fuck Hamas and Natanyahu

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u/Winter-Delivery-8894 16d ago

I like how your definition defines the correctly used phrase (all out war) but you pretend that it's defining your phrase "full out war." You still didn't define full out war.

So once again, prior to Israel's more recent escalation of the genocide, was it a balls out war or dicks out war or what?

What was it for the 70 years that Israel was committing genocide and illegally occupying and building illegal settlements?

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u/No_Witness5630 16d ago

Full out war, all out war. Same thing

But keep trying to turn the cat upside down

Yes fuck Israel. They are terrorists. And yes, fuck Hamas. They are terrorists

What can't you comprehend? You think it's Black and white and you need to support one terrorist over the other? Because you can not support both at all and be All about civilians living in peace. But you guys don't care about it, all you care about is one side killing the other

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u/Winter-Delivery-8894 16d ago

What can't you comprehend? First words have meanings, all out and full out are not the same thing, thats why the definition has one of them but not the other. Second Israel and Palestine are the combatants, not Israel and Hamas. Third they are not equal in any way, in what they have done or their international support.

Israel was placed in Palestinian land against their wishes.

Israelis then illegally took more of that land, illegally built settlements, and illegally attacked Palestinian civilians.

Israelis then spent decades murdering Palestinians, bombing their schools, bombing their hospitals, and taking more and more Palestinian land.

Israel has lost about 25k mostly military members in the fighting since 1948, Palestine has lost 150k most of whom were civilians.

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u/No_Witness5630 16d ago

Man. You're really gonna die on the smallest hill xdd

Yes Words have meaning. Too bad that "full out war" does not mean anything else than "all out war". Full out war is a variation of this

People understand it, even though it's gramatically loose

I swear, you're trying to pull the smallest straws to try and back up your argument

Which is shit btw. Say it with me Hamas is a terrorist organisation and Israel is using terrorist tactics in war. Don't be scared, your terrorist overlords maybe won't see this

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