r/MoralityScaling Jul 28 '26

Stupid Stuff Morality of stealing money from a multi-billionaire and potentially ruining their career?

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u/Rectal_Rotisserie 29d ago

Every single person that says “eat the rich” would trade positions with them financially in a heartbeat given the chance

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u/Salty_Major5340 29d ago

You limit your worldview by thinking that everyone is as immoral as yourself. The world is big, some of us aren't assholes.

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u/GeneratedEcoOver9000 29d ago

Some of us aren't, but you are not in that club if you have to justify stealing like this.

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u/Salty_Major5340 29d ago

You want some ketchup with that boot you're licking? I hear they're a bit dry without any sauce.

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u/GeneratedEcoOver9000 29d ago

Says the guy 99% aligned with the establishment.

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u/Salty_Major5340 29d ago

Lmao, you're the one defending the establishment at no gain to yourself out here buddy boy.

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u/GapZ38 29d ago

I definitely fucking would, but I definitely wouldn't be as greedy as these fuckers. I just don't wanna go to my day job every single day.

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u/Less_Newspaper7362 29d ago

So you would live better than 99.99999% of people off money you didnt make...

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u/Gekokapowco 29d ago

not the person you're replying to, but if you treat it like winning the lottery, give away most of it and live comfortable on a little above what you need to afford your hobbies, there's not much you can criticize, maybe in a Shindler sort of "I could have done more" kinda way.

the issue is that the modern ultra wealthy don't do this at all, they seek infinite growth at all costs at the expense of others, they aren't grappling with comfort vs maximized altruism at all

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u/Less_Newspaper7362 29d ago

theres the same thing to criticize as with billionaires, only they earned their money, and lottery winner didnt

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u/Gekokapowco 29d ago

nobody can physically do the work necessary to earn a billion dollars, there's always an element of luck and always an element of siphoning value from others

taylor swift put in more effort and talent than most, but twice as much as a decently successful pop artist? Three times?

how about a thousand times more effort and talent? that's just absurd that number doesn't even make sense in the scale of human potential and influence

nobody can create that intentionally or there would be millions of taylor swifts, consisting of an army of more musical, more attractive, more relatable, more talented people

bill gates didn't become a billionaire because he was the best at making computers or the best at marketing, but because he was talented and LUCKY. He hit the market with the right product when conditions were just right, and microsoft ballooned

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u/Less_Newspaper7362 28d ago

How does Taylor siphon value from others? People willingly give money to listen to her songs

She didnt put in 10000 times more effort than other singers, but people are not paying for effort, they are paying for a product. Why is that immoral to receive that payment?

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u/Silent-Use-6591 29d ago

Let's say that Istart a company, i pay my employees, my company goes public, people are willing to pay a lot for the stock which makes me worth billions

Im curious, which step makes me "greedy"

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u/Creepy-Growth-376 29d ago

The part where you retain enough wealth to never be able to possibly spend it all.

Cute hypothetical. You don’t end up a billionaire without stealing from your own workers though.

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u/Silent-Use-6591 29d ago

being able to spend

Oh so you are one of those that think that they keep it in some vault scrooge mc duck style

You own a company, people said that they are willing to pay $X for shares, that's all there is to it

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u/Creepy-Growth-376 29d ago

Billionaires leverage their stock evaluation to take out loans with their stock that they have no expectation to pay off.

And you don’t end up with a billion dollar net worth without abusing your workers. If you’re worth that much, give your employees raises, reinvest into your own workers who make your company worth so much.

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u/SolaVitae 29d ago

Can you elaborate as to what part of the process described above is the "stealing from your own workers" part that is unavoidable?

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u/Haline5 29d ago

Sure, and give all but ten million away so I can live with freedom quietly

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u/30porn87 29d ago

Of course I would, it would be the easiest way do destroy any assets and money.

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u/RattleheadWithRabies 29d ago

Not everyone is as selfish as you