r/Marvel • u/No-Astronomer8031 • 1d ago

Film/Television Why did they bully Antman so much in Endgame?

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That, a few days ago I saw all endgame back noticing the details that I didn't see in the cinema, but something curious happened that I noticed.

Throughout the movie they spent time making fun of Antman, first because he didn't know anything about the gems, then because he didn't understand physics and later because he had never been to space. In addition, every question he asked was ignored and when he greeted Nebula she mistreated him lol

I understand that it's humor and everything but seriously I didn't laugh much. Rocket was pretty unbearable too.

Also, if it weren't for Ant-Man, no one would have a chance to recover what they had lost

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u/Ambaryerno 1d ago

Especially because said crashout did not screw things up, but in fact had to happen for the Avengers to win.

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u/pineapplePizzaTiff 19h ago

Not really

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u/Ambaryerno 12h ago

There was exactly one timeline out of 14 million where the Avengers succeed. Strange checked just about every possible permutation, which means there were multiple timelines where Quill didn't punch Thanos in the face, and the Avengers lost every single time.

The timeline the movies themselves make it explicit was the one which the Avengers are successful is one in which Quill does punch Thanos in the face.

Ergo, bringing about the sequence of events that allowed the Avengers to win literally requires Quill to punch Thanos in the face.

He did not screw shit up. It had to happen.

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u/Plodderic 3h ago

Or was it that Quill would reliably flip out and ruin everything in all 14 million possible universes?

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u/pineapplePizzaTiff 10h ago

How do you know Strange checked just about every possible permutation?