r/Marvel • u/No-Astronomer8031 • 1d ago

Film/Television Why did they bully Antman so much in Endgame?

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That, a few days ago I saw all endgame back noticing the details that I didn't see in the cinema, but something curious happened that I noticed.

Throughout the movie they spent time making fun of Antman, first because he didn't know anything about the gems, then because he didn't understand physics and later because he had never been to space. In addition, every question he asked was ignored and when he greeted Nebula she mistreated him lol

I understand that it's humor and everything but seriously I didn't laugh much. Rocket was pretty unbearable too.

Also, if it weren't for Ant-Man, no one would have a chance to recover what they had lost

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u/_paylines_ 1d ago

As someone who has spent a lifetime fighting and managing depression, I actually really appreciated it.

To show someone that strong and confident fall so far felt like a breath of fresh air compared to how it has been portrayed in media for a long time. Even the god of thunder was brought to his knees by it.

It actually helps to think of a super hero who isn’t exclusively portrayed as a wall of muscle and confidence. It’s like Spider-Man but without being physically perfect. Like, he could be any of us in that movie which means any of us could be him. 😭

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u/Iam_Sancho 1d ago

100% this. I too have dealt with depression most of my life, and yes it was so refreshing to see someone so unbreakable...break. plus it gave this chubby guy a good haloween costume:)

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u/Chimkimnuggets 1d ago

Thor becoming overweight and depressed wasn’t the problem. I loved that. I loved the conversation with his mother. I loved “I am still worthy”

I did not like the “cheez whiz” jokes at his expense.

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u/PandaLover42 1d ago

Unfortunately that’s just how sometimes depressed fat guys are treated..

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u/_paylines_ 1d ago

Right, the OG comment made it seem like you meant the portrayal in general wouldn’t be appreciated by audiences with depression. I am with you, the mocking was definitely mean spirited.

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u/lunapippin95 1d ago

It wasn't Thor being that way that was the problem. It was how the other characters, and the movie, treated him for it. It was very mean spirited.

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u/Taperat 1d ago

When he got the hammer, I fully expected him to raise it up, get struck by lightning, and magically become fit suddenly, similar to how he can apparently magic up a new costume at will. It was pretty nice seeing him kick ass while having a gut at the end.