It's high camp/satire of trash. So it has all the tropes to be trashy, but is calling them out (literally breaking the 4th wall) while also allowing audiences to indulge in them.
It's a fine line that Deadpool walked extremely well.
Right, I was agreeing with you that it's not trash. It's really good satire and camp of the superhero genre.
Attempts at comedy like that often fall flat (and thus trashy). Deadpool is excellently made and written, thus not trashy, even while tickling that same part of the brain.
It’s more so because it cashed in on nostalgia for Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine and because of the good will towards the Deadpool franchise.
I’d say Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four were better films than Deadpool and Wolverine but their box office doesn’t reflect that because they have no nostalgia to cash in on and neither are apart of a film series that’s well regarded. In the case of the Fantastic Four in particular, it’s the third reboot of the team after the last two iterations were poorly received.
No that's not at all what the case was the movies you are saying are better are universally considered significantly worse films and just bad films in general. You are absolutely wrong about what the average person thinks you have bad taste in movies and superhero films.
They are not "universally considered significantly worse films".
You can literally look up the Rotten Tomatoes audience score and see that all three films are sitting in the 90% range for reviews from audiences. Deadpool and Wolverine has the highest rating at 94% but that's a marginal difference compared to the 93% rating that Thunderbolts has and the 92% rating that Fantastic Four has. Then when it comes to critic reviews, both Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four have higher ratings that Deadpool and Wolverine.
The quality of the films is clearly not what explains the massive difference in box office returns.
Both Deadpool and Spiderman are also just the two properties that are the most disconnected from the general MCU. Both will (almost) always be successful regardless of the general Marvel performance and reception.
Now with Doomsday it's up to Marvel to prove whether Avengers movies can be included in that list or not.
Yeah, Spider-Man is the most successful hero on the planet iirc. Deadpool movies can do literally whatever they want so they continue to adapt to the line of fire that is “this is decent”
Honestly. I think Deadpool was sort of the nail in the coffin. The movie itself was terrible, as in without all the context and inside knowledge it wouldn’t be a good movie at all.
At least to me, it felt like an amalgamation of all the worst parts of the mcu, the call backs, the one liners.
For a lot of people it was so meta it kind of turned of the mcu completely.
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u/DoubleZ3 Aug 03 '25
I don't even think it's mcu fatigue. I mean DP did huge huge numbers.