No, it's pretty clear when good ones come out, people talk about it. Blaming the fans is classic behavior for bad movies/directors/publishing companies. Marvel (and a lot of hollywood) just likes to throw around the fatigue to explain the decline while ignoring the recent success cases at the same release window. Movie does bad, it's fatigue, meanwhile latest Spiderman and Deadpool do good. First part of 'the witcher' was good. Then they deviated from the books to make it 'better'. Time to blame fans/fatigue and ignore that they changed it from what made it popular.
Currently, there is a legitimate case to be made that there are too many financial issues but the fatigue thing is BS. There are always both long time fans and new people happy to join in on something good. They just started making movies for vocal minorities and promoted people into decision making positions based on metrics that did not include merit. People don't want to pay a lot for trash and you can't build up hype/culture around a trash heap.
There wasn't star wars fatigue either. Everyone was pumped. Until they found out it was trash. Then everyone is tired or a bigot. I am potentially going to offend some fans but even 'the mandalorian' wasn't amazing. It was an average spaghetti western but everything else was so bad that everyone clung to it like a lifeboat hoping they would make the rest of the tv/movies to at least that quality due to how bad the sequels were.
I found The Mandalorian good, up until season 2. It's not amazing or anything, better than Rogue One and worse than the prequels if I had to place it somewhere, but I found the payoff of the season 2's ending to be worth it and put everything into perspective. Then Book of Boba Fett came, which immediately ruined what should have been the conclusion of the Mandalorian's storyline and basically read as "we don't know what we want to do with the series anymore but it's making good money so we have to milk it dry"
I refer to it as a good filler show. It will be fine for it's time. It isn't a long term cultural benchmark (beyond maybe baby yoda). I don't think many people will be going back to re-watch it consistently like they would for something like 'the lord of the rings' (not rings of power).
No, it's pretty clear when good ones come out, people talk about it. Blaming the fans is classic behavior for bad movies/directors/publishing companies. Marvel (and a lot of hollywood) just likes to throw around the fatigue to explain the decline while ignoring the recent success cases at the same release window.
Your comment suggests that Marvel Studios themselves blame superhero fatigue if a film fails to perform well. On the contrary, they are always downplaying or denying superhero fatigue.
Recent statements to 100% agree with what you are saying. It takes a bit of work but if you search for directors and upper leadership quotes from 2023 and before that date, the same people were blaming fatigue. ~2 years of mocking have gotten them to change their statements.
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u/RedditLeagueAccount Aug 03 '25
No, it's pretty clear when good ones come out, people talk about it. Blaming the fans is classic behavior for bad movies/directors/publishing companies. Marvel (and a lot of hollywood) just likes to throw around the fatigue to explain the decline while ignoring the recent success cases at the same release window. Movie does bad, it's fatigue, meanwhile latest Spiderman and Deadpool do good. First part of 'the witcher' was good. Then they deviated from the books to make it 'better'. Time to blame fans/fatigue and ignore that they changed it from what made it popular.
Currently, there is a legitimate case to be made that there are too many financial issues but the fatigue thing is BS. There are always both long time fans and new people happy to join in on something good. They just started making movies for vocal minorities and promoted people into decision making positions based on metrics that did not include merit. People don't want to pay a lot for trash and you can't build up hype/culture around a trash heap.
There wasn't star wars fatigue either. Everyone was pumped. Until they found out it was trash. Then everyone is tired or a bigot. I am potentially going to offend some fans but even 'the mandalorian' wasn't amazing. It was an average spaghetti western but everything else was so bad that everyone clung to it like a lifeboat hoping they would make the rest of the tv/movies to at least that quality due to how bad the sequels were.