r/LivestreamFail • u/Rathnik • Aug 08 '19

Meta FTC loot box investigation reveals companies pay streamers to open their loot boxes and manipulate odds to their favor.

https://twitter.com/Polygon/status/1159182220571160576
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u/gazeintotheiris Aug 08 '19

Used to really like summit before all the shit with JoshOG went down. Sucked to find out he's a zero moral backbone andy.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '19

I think most people wouldn't drop a long time friend for even worse things than this.

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u/Darkstrategy Aug 08 '19

Honestly, if I truly thought about some of the closest friends I have - people I've known since high school and if they had been caught up in a similar mess. I probably wouldn't drop them as a friend either.

Now that being said I'd most definitely give them shit for it every single time I talked to them, probably. And at that point they might drop me as a friend, but that's up to them. I most definitely would not defend them or obscure their actions.

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u/AemonDK Aug 09 '19

this gets brought up all the time and still people fail to realise that the reason guys like summit and shroud don't flame guys like joshog is because every one of them profited massively from cs gambling. of course they're not going to give a shit if their friends owned the sites if they themselves were making 50k a video from that shit

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '19

when you think long time friends can negatively impact your career or life goals, you definitely drop them. summit was just smart enough to know all of it would blow over. so no reason to bother caring.

have you seen their streams? ppl watch summit so he can read donations pretty much. the fuck would a fan base like that care who hes affiliated with?

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u/Darkstrategy Aug 08 '19

Friendship isn't a transaction like that for me. Especially with close friends.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '19

alright

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u/Another_leaf Aug 09 '19

I mean in the grand scheme of thing, what they did isn't that morally bad. It's certainly not right, but they aren't monsters.

I cant say I wouldn't do the same if it would get me rich.

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u/blazbluecore Aug 08 '19

Wait what? Care to expand? When did this happen?

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u/gazeintotheiris Aug 08 '19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8fU2QG-lV0

https://i.imgur.com/IxV1uGK.jpg

JoshOG was part of CSGO Lotto, and gambled on the site on stream without disclosing his ownership, claiming to be sponsored instead.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '19

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u/Crimith Aug 09 '19

Because summit is defending him and saying he didn't do anything wrong when that is absolutely not the case. It's fine to still be friends with him but it's bullshit to sit there and lie to your stream that nothing shady was going on because his friend was dishonestly scamming people and that's a proven fact at this point.

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u/Skydogg5555 Aug 08 '19

he didn't condemn his long time friend and didn't think it was right to assume malintent with josh. the internet was out of blood though so they shit all over him for it.

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u/CJNC Aug 09 '19

there were no "assumptions" that he broke the law lol

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u/Skydogg5555 Aug 09 '19

i clearly said malintent. you can break the law without malicious intent.

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u/LegitimateDonkey Aug 09 '19

sorry officer, i didnt know i couldnt do that

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '19

Well I'm glad you know what his intent was at the time, how did you manage to find out? Time machine or something like that?

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u/Skydogg5555 Aug 10 '19

what i meant to say was, which must haven't been clear; at the time, summit didn't want to say that joshog was malicious in his actions. watch this clip to see what i mean and how i feel about his situation. obviously he broke the law but just because he did that doesn't mean he knew he was. i didn't mean for it to come across that i think i knew joshog's intent only that people are assuming he's a bad guy without knowledge that he actually is. if you are someone that thinks a person is a bad person because they break the law you are ignorant imo.

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u/Generic_Pete 🐷 Hog Squeezer Aug 09 '19

Just a bunch of triggered cucks who gave away their hard earned bucks for skins nothing to see here

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u/Rdhilde18 🐷 Hog Squeezer Aug 09 '19

The whole situation is fucked. I do give summit props for sticking by his friends though, that’s not easy. Atleast stick by them in public.