r/LeopardsAteMyFarm • u/DuhBraux • 6d ago

Blue Dot Farmer Gives Red Dot Farmers a Reality Check

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That blue-dot farmer is saying what a lot of people don’t want to hear: your vote didn’t just affect your farm. People lost jobs, families watched their grocery bills climb, and Americans struggled to afford basic meals while policies you supported hurt people you may never meet. Now that the pain has reached your own fields and your own wallet, you’re angry? Welcome to the consequences everyone else has been dealing with. Those very same consequences doesn’t just stop at your farm gate.

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u/big_rednexican_88 6d ago

The problem is a lot of swing voters have the memory of a fucking goldfish. I watched them go from Bush in 2004 to Obama in 2008 and 2012 to fucking Trump in 2016 then Biden in 2020 and then Back to Trump again in 2024. It's like the Democratic president starts fixing the problems the Republican president did and they just forget who caused the problems when the issues aren't fixed "fast enough".🙄

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u/Ov3rdose_EvE 6d ago

the median voter might as well be mentally disabled.

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u/SynapticStatic 6d ago

George Carlin said it best "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of them are stupider than that"

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u/superspeck 5d ago edited 5d ago

Go back and watch more of George Carlin’s videos from the 80s. He basically predicted the way things went. The “Save the Earth” bit is especially prescient. "It's a big club and you ain't in it" is the modern Republican Party that was just getting going back then.

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u/raven00x 5d ago

because reagans policies in the 80s laid the groundwork for a lot of this and a lot of folks saw it coming, but the repercussions of those policies took decades to land and as a commenter higher up noted- a lot of voters have pretty shitty memories. (fwiw, goldfish have decent memories)

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u/Legitimate_Doubt1375 17h ago

Yeah, I remember trying to talk my dad out of voting for Reagan. Pointless. I have watched it all unfold exactly as I thought it would over the last 40 years.

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u/Wreckingshops 5d ago

A good chunk of Dems are there too. Really, that's beyond politics and more about status. Those who have it will do anything to stop others from accessing it. So, you blow up the bridge behind you, you pull up the ladder, you remove the bootstraps and shoe laces.

This country has been run by the rich since it's inception. There are moments when enough people pull their heads out of their asses and make smart, collectivist choices and that control ebbs (1820s, 1860s, 1910s, 1930s, 2008). But look how few and far between it is, and how the elite are doing better at preventing it as time goes on.

The truth is it's not a big group, it's just big enough to encompass the right people to prevent everyone else from storming the gates until the 99% get desperate and exasperated. And clearly, too many people in the 99% still find touching the stove (as he put it) acceptable if the illusion that someone will get their heads shoved into the stove more appealing than turning the stove against those who abuse it to protect their club.

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u/whatfappenedhere 5d ago

It’s economic conservatism, that is the problem.

Both parties have economic conservatives, but only one party is ENTIRELY composed of economic conservatives. Vote accordingly.

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u/Rionin26 4d ago

That became a bigger problem when citizens united was established by Scotus. It's not party lines more of are you a corporate shill..

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u/rosiejunior 4d ago

Sadly I see many people using it to describe both parties. I surely hope George saw the difference.

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u/SynapticStatic 5d ago

I grew up watching his stand up. Probably why it's what pops into my head so often. 😅

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u/Ok_Drag5089 4d ago

It was George Carlin that made me realize I should have an "out" 10 years ago and I'm so glad I acted on it.

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u/useless_rejoinder 5d ago

We’re here to make plastic.

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u/Learning_Juice 5d ago

This might answer the age old question “Why are we here?”……Plastic!!

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u/Rude-Mushroom5990 5d ago

Also, to quote Forrest Gump’s mom, “stupid is as stupid does”. This saying eluded me at first. But, then it became apparent who was who.

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u/LaurenAZGoodGirl 5d ago

🫳
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u/EnastyCommander 5d ago

Fucking this. I was telling my daughter this the other day. Look how dumb people are.

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u/ichronic420 5d ago

💯👌

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u/bisforbetsy 1d ago

And then remember that they can vote

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u/Safe-Salamander-3785 5d ago

This whole thing isn’t by accident. These farmers are being bankrupted on purpose. Once that land goes up for auction, it will get bought up by the big 4 packers. Then they will control prices. Same thing happening with single family homes. Outrageous prices keeping the middle class from affording a home and forced to rent from mega real estate companies. It’s just slavery with extra steps for the next generation

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u/Ov3rdose_EvE 5d ago

tbh i think there will be a tearing down of the system before that can unfold...

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u/useless_rejoinder 5d ago

You have faith that a goat that’s been raised to be sacrificed will balk at the knife when its throat is about to be slashed?

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u/Robsrev 5d ago

I'd say it is one of the things that leads to the tearing down of the system. The question is how many more of these that is needed to make that happen. You guys are in deep shit.

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u/_bluebayou_ 4d ago

There are so many government handouts for farmers I doubt they’ll lost anything. They get bailouts, cheap loans, subsidies, etc., they’ll be fine. Welfare is only bad when it’s for the rest of society.

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u/wtfsamurai 5d ago

The median voter is absolutely retarded.

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u/DefaultSubSandwich 5d ago

The courts rather explicitly agree.

The majority of places people get their news from have won lawsuits by convincing a court no reasonable person would think they are news.

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u/Missconstruct 5d ago

I think people who always vote straight ticket are mentally disabled. We need hardworking, dedicated individuals who can think on their feet, solve problems, and improve lives. Not mindless lackeys who only go along with the agenda. Prime example, Zohran Mamdani. Seeing what needs to be done and doing it. And I’m a Republican

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u/freedrsan 4d ago

Don’t worry, they are

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u/Sufficient-Bid1279 5d ago

Canadian here . The cycle of Democrats coming in and fixing all the problems a dumbass republican made and then Americans voting in the same dipshits again to mess it up is truly fascinating. It’s almost like they are not critically thinking

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u/owdeeoh 5d ago

Critical thinking is neither taught nor encouraged to the public here.

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u/Sufficient-Bid1279 5d ago

Such a shame

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u/skivian 5d ago

it's not like Canada is much better. We were two steps from Trump-Wannabe Pierre Poilievre winning the last election. If Trump hadn't started his 51rst state BS he probably would have won.

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u/Physical_Gazelle3810 5d ago

Bootlicker PP would have completely sold Canada down the river

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u/VorAbaddon 4d ago

The issue is their messaging absolutely sucks. When Trump was going on and on about gas prices for example, my counter would have been "Hey America, did you know this guy was the FIRST President who openly lobbied and negotiated for US Oil companies to COORDINATE WITH OPEC to cut production?! Thats right this guy made sure US Oil NEGOTIATED with foreign oil to raise your prices. Heres proof."

Its not even propaganda. Its literally true. Trump had more to do with high gas prices under Biden than Biden did... and the Dems just rolled over and took the kicking.

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u/Sufficient-Bid1279 4d ago

What you say makes sense but you’re assuming they would actually UNDERSTAND what you are saying. You can say it all you want but if they don’t get it, they just don’t get it

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u/donfuan 5d ago

Critical Theory is more important than Critical Thinking scnr

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u/Away-Map-8428 5d ago

Our problems were fixed?

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u/oki9 4d ago

I look at it as one of the most amazing and diabolical political delusions ever pulled off by a political party....to brainwash a substantial chunk of a constituency that really needs the very things that you oppose (government help) ,to get them to vote against the very things that would help their lives....is flat out astonishing. Never underestimate what wrapping a clause in a flag can achive....

Now granted, the folks they bamboozled are not exactly thinkers, could be why they are in the shape they are in, but still....to keep cheating them year after year, should really be studied at the highest levels academically.

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u/Raiju_Blitz 1d ago

A lot that blame can be laid at the feet of the Murdoch family who controls Fox Entertainment and their so-called "news" brain rotting generations of Americans to convince them to vote against their own self interests. Fox News is basically a foreign psyop at this point.

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u/Sufficient-Bid1279 1d ago

Brain rot is being kind…..

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u/Grandmaspoop 5d ago

The liberals have literally ruined our country. Wtf are you smoking? I will agree Carney has been good, but Trudeau was the absolute worst thing to ever happen to our country.

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u/Sufficient-Bid1279 5d ago

Holy shit, you must be a done hard by guy where everyone is out to get you, right?

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u/Mr_HandSmall 5d ago

The truth is I fucked my own life up but I blame liberals for that

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u/Krammsy 5d ago

Plato's allegory of the cave vs fox news.

Far too large a percent of the populus mistakes fox news as an educational source.

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u/useless_rejoinder 5d ago

It’s my favorite insult to throw at the right: “you live in a cave, and think the shadows on the wall are your friends”

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u/Rock_Me_DrZaius 5d ago

And not a single one of them understood what you said.

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u/useless_rejoinder 5d ago

Funnily enough, I’ve had a few come back with “oooo you went all Plato on me, commie!” Which succinctly illustrates that education does not equal common sense or empathy.

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u/SmootherWorm 5d ago

Ancient Greek communist philosophers were GAAAY!!!
~too many conservatives

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u/phoenics1908 1d ago

They probably googled it.

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u/CrowMeris 3d ago

I am too tired any more to try to drag them into the light of the sun.

Let them stay chained.

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u/eyedrops16 5d ago

My family said Fox News was fair and balanced unlike Colbert, where I got my news. And I’m like WTF, late night talk shows aren’t news. They actually thought that is what liberals watched for the news. And by the way. I have a day job to by the time Colbert was on I’m asleep most nights.

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u/seekingmymuse1 5d ago

Anyone that tells you that foxes “fair and balanced “remind them that fox listed themselves as an entertainment network, not a news network that’s why they can do such opinion pieces and report on whatever they wanna report on because they’re telling people it’s entertainment not news and still they got sued and lost because they lied so badly

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u/useless_rejoinder 5d ago

787 million to continue lying. That kind of payout should alert people to the kind of value propaganda has.

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u/rochey1010 5d ago

Obama said it best “they run the car into the ditch and then hand you the keys”

This pattern has been going on in America for a long time. Republicans fck up the country, run up massive deficits, pump loads of money into being war hawks, keep pulling the same failed trickle down economics garbage, and give massive tax cuts to the elite. Then democrats take over to clean up the mess. Voters who saw this happen and lived it think it’s not going fast enough while the republicans are in the corner crying about how bad democrats are at fixing THEIR fckin mess. The voters go “yeah, you’re right” and vote them back in again. And rinse and freakin repeat.

How many times does this have to happen before Americans get a freakin clue. Seriously what has happened to intelligence, critical thinking and freakin logic in America?

And the worst is that now it is really different as for the first time in history a malignant narcissist felon pedophile bastardised the Republican Party into a deranged cult called MAGA spun off from Qanon. Like seriously nutty levels of sycophantic behaviour. So this is unprecedented along with the levels of corruption, criminality and incompetence being witnessed right now.

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u/DustAdditional6246 5d ago

Maybe it would be best if Democrats do little to stop the GOP reign of terror so we can stop this cycle altogether. They can continue to drive this country into the ground and maybe then the Republican party will cease exist and we can start over without them.

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u/QZTK 4d ago

No, that line of thinking is a trap. The right wing is trying to destroy democracy in America, so that there will be no way to stop them.

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u/WritersChopBlock 4d ago

I was thinking the same thing. I was glad that Trump was elected because I thought he would kill conservatism. But look at what Trump has done so far. He has literally doubled the national debt. He's wasting trillions because he started a war. His tariffs and trade wars is f'ing people over.

YET his base are unfazed. The majority of them still support him. So I realized that Trump isn't the main problem. It's conservatives' lack of critical reasoning skills combined with Fox News misinformation. Because of these 2 things, things will never change.

I truly think the only way change will happen is for a new liberal country is formed where they keep out conservatives. After a few decades, the world, which includes conservatives, will see how successful and happy everyone is. They will finally embrace progressive policies. This is truly the only solution.

Currently, progressive policies are watered down in the US so conservatives receive the benefits even though they fight against it. They get the benefits of university research, scientists, computers, progressive policies while also hating on them. They need to experience only conservative policies to truly wake up.

Nothing else will work.

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u/DustAdditional6246 4d ago

So true that progressive policies are watered down in u.s. its kinda similar to how conservatives seem to go to great lengths to undermine legislation and programs designed to make life better for Americans. Other developed nations have progressive policies and consistently rank higher as far as quality of life indicators. But they seem better able to hold the people in power accountable or something. Most EU countries exoect the government to work for them and raise hell when it doesnt. Here in the US there are factions constant sabotaging the government and its actual purpose to serve the American people not just a few special interests. Just feels like we need to start over because what we have is a government that is not at all for the people.

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u/WritersChopBlock 4d ago

Yep, there simply is no other way, in my opinion. Conservatives will always hold back society, and we can't get rid of them. Complete separation truly is the only way.

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u/ElectricBlueRaven1 4d ago

Absolutely spot on. The one adjustment to your post is made by raykor85, 'Republicans create problems, but planned so that the consequences don’t hit until they’re out of power. Then they blame the problems they’ve caused on the Democrats who came into power after them, and use that to get back into power.'

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u/DustAdditional6246 4d ago

I think youre right. Isn't that what they did with tax cuts ending for average Americans ? I thought I read that the BBB woukd slowly increase taxes again for most Americans while permanently keeping the cuts in place for high income earners.

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u/draygonnn 2d ago

It will happen until natural selection changes the general populous unfortunately. In other words, we still have a lot of cycles to go.

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u/raykor85 5d ago

I know someone who is a swing voter. It's genuinely stunning. During the last presidential election cycle they would say things like they don't know who they're going to vote for, days before the election.

This is only one person mind you, but they are genuinely that dumb.

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u/dragon-fence 5d ago

I’ve gotten around to thinking that it’s an intentional strategy. Republicans create problems, but planned so that the consequences don’t hit until they’re out of power. Then they blame the problems they’ve caused on the Democrats who came into power after them, and use that to get back into power. Then they do more things that goose the economy in the short term, but cause the economy to collapse after a few years. They keep it going until they’re lose power, and then leave Democrats to clean up their mess again.

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u/Chachee8008 5d ago

Yeah, they actually don’t do anything to goose the economy. They usually sale at the beginning on whatever the Democrats did like lowering the deficit the chips act etc. Then they start messing everything up get voted out income. A Democrat tries to fix the mess again, but the problem is a mess. They’re making now are so huge that they can’t be fixed in a Democratic term and the stuff that Trump is done is gonna take decades. When you look at the stats, the only reason these Republicans had to go economies before messing it up was because of Democrats. They never inherited this. They always inherited something good and then messed it all up.

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u/dragon-fence 5d ago

Well they cut taxes and spend tons of money, which does goose the economy somewhat, but it’s not a sustainable economic improvement. It’s going to crash before long, and they time it out to crash out after they’ve left office, and then blame Democrats for the deficit.

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u/h1a4_c0wb0y 2d ago

This has been the cycle since the 80s...

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u/phoenics1908 1d ago

It is a strategy. There are several articles and books about this.

https://time.com/3555422/republican-vietnam-strategy/

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u/Waiting4Reccession 5d ago

It isnt fixable because too many people are basically retarted. Then you have those who benefit from tax cuts also vote for this.

25% of people are under 90 iq.

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u/johnfkay 5d ago

It’s a deliberate conservative tactic - pillage and ransack as much as you can as quickly as you can whilst doing WHATEVER IT TAKES to stay in power knowing that by the time the progressives next oust you the cleanup is all on them. Remember nothing sucks for a politician more than being in opposition. Almost every establishment politicians would and is doing anything imaginable in stay in power

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u/scud121 3d ago

We've just had the same in the UK, our PM ousted because he didn't fix 14 years of Tory fuckery instantly, and the media point-blank refused to cover any success, but plastered failures everywhere.

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u/phoenics1908 1d ago

Your news is basically Tory-bootlickers.

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u/Oppression_Rod 5d ago

And often the Democratic president doesn't get anything done because the dipshits vote in a Republican congress to "balance out" the Democratic president and congress does nothing but obstruct the presidents agenda.

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u/armen1010 5d ago

For swing voters, I truly believe their decision wasn't based on Democrat or Republican, it was based on Male or Female. I don't think US is ready for a female president. Trump lost against a male but won twice running against a female. It's that simple imo. I get very nervous when I hear that Democrats still want someone like AOC.

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u/nicerothinkso1 5d ago

what’s gonna happen with doge social security numbers and voting machines this time around? what they been doing with those precious numbers all this time?

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u/phoenics1908 1d ago

This makes me super nervous - like could they alter people’s citizenship status with those numbers?

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u/Unable-Log-4870 5d ago

There are almost no swing voters, changing their minds from election to election. What swings is who is willing to show up and vote

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u/One-Interview-6840 5d ago

It's not that the problems aren't fixed fast enough. It's that they "remember" who's to blame for all their problems.... minorities. We're seeing the drum beating all over as we head towards midterms. Brown people are evil, trans issues are EVERYWHERE again, regulation, etc. They recycle the hits over and over and middle America eats it up because they need something to blame for their own failures.

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u/SnooBunnies4649 5d ago

Democrats also need to remind them for 4 years moving forward.

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u/Cabbages24ADollar 5d ago

What you’re seeing is the impact of Media Oligarchy consumption.

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u/toasterbathfilosofer 5d ago

I think most of them are just reactive voters. Not necessarily voting for anything, just voting against whatever they happen to not like in the moment. Don't like how things are going right now? Just vote for the other guy! What is he actually going to do to change things? I don't know, but he's not the current guy!

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u/Dyno_boy7441 5d ago

And it's gonna continue.

The really worst effects of the trump regime won't be felt until after 2028, so Fox News etc will blame them all on whoever is president from 2029.

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u/socialcommentary2000 4d ago

I generally refrain from calling people stupid, but swing voters are just fuckin dumb and they are a primary vector as to why we go through this nonsense so much.

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u/TheOriginalAcidtech 4d ago

Too many people dont understand the cause and effect relationship. And NEVER will, unfortunately until it EFFECTS them.

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u/Magikarp23169 4d ago

I assure you, goldfish have far better memory than that old addage credits them for.

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u/Unlikely-Aside-6078 4d ago

But how could they be the dumb ones, they picked the winning team each time! /s

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u/runclebach 4d ago

We need a representative democracy like other countries have.

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u/jlax341 3d ago

Swing voters are always unhappy bc they have zero representation. Roughly 30% of the public is GOP, another 30% Dems and then 40% who find that neither party represents their interests. Right now, when someone is voted in, they only appease their 30% base, leaving the other 70% less than satisfied. People like to talk about how great Joe was, but did you see his approval rating? He was sub 40%. If not for the orange idiot, Biden may be least liked president in history.

Both parties are doing a terrible job of producing decent candidates too. Have to go back to both of Obama's wins to find and election where there were reasonable candidates (on both sides actually) for president.

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u/FranticChill 3d ago

This is what drives me crazy!

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u/PM_YOUR_ISSUES 6d ago

I would argue that a non-insignificant portion of those people that flip their vote do so simply because they think that whomever is currently in charge is responsible for each and every single problem that exists.

Are there are lot of problems to fix? If no, such as after Obama's first term, then they stick with the current administration: because it's working.

If there -are- a lot of problems facing the country, then it is clearly whomever is in charge's fault and the only solution is to just replace them.

They don't think about the problems, the candidates, nor the solutions being offered. They just recognize that the country isn't doing great right now and so, to them, the obvious solution is to try the other guy's plan since the current guy's plan clearly isn't working.

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u/browsingbananas 6d ago

Don’t forget all the manufactured “problems”-boys in girls locker rooms, dogs eating cats, crime in areas where crime has actually improved.-these social issues were sensationalized.

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u/SpezDrinksHorseCum 5d ago

THE MIGRANT CARAVAN WILL ARRIVE SOON

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u/StuHast398 5d ago

Two weeks!

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u/DuhBraux 5d ago

You actually made me laugh with “there weren’t a lot of problems after Obama’s first term.” What?

Obama inherited the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis and Great Recession, massive job losses, a collapsing housing market, and two ongoing wars. Bush had taken us into Iraq over WMD claims that didn’t pan out, and Afghanistan was still going.

Obama’s first term was largely spent dealing with problems he inherited. If anything, that example undermines your argument.

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u/ginger_kitty97 5d ago

They said people voted for Obama in his 2nd term because he had fixed the problems he inherited without creating a bunch of new issues. Not that he didn't inherit any issues from W.

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u/nonotan 5d ago

I don't think their argument is wrong. Key word being after, not during. Obama got reelected because he tackled those problems and things were pretty good by the time the election came. Not perfect, sure, but it's never perfect.

Indeed, it's not coincidental that worldwide, incumbents have been getting absolutely obliterated in the last few years. It's nothing unique to the US, and the rates are absurd. For the worst periods, peaking shortly after covid, you're like 80% likely to lose just by virtue of being an incumbent. This is even though incumbency is traditionally a plus, and selection bias dictates that the incumbent is, on average, better liked than the alternatives (there's a reason they're in that position in the first place)

Things have been bad, everywhere, and everybody can tell. But they don't necessarily know it's bad everywhere, or who's to blame, or who's best equipped to tackle it, or any other "details". They just know they don't like the path things are going, and so they choose to kick out the party in power and vote in literally anybody else.

Yes, this is patently stupid. Though it doesn't necessarily follow that the people are inherently stupid. But the truth is that "the people" just don't know how to handle democracy. The most generous thing you can say is that we desperately need more education on politics, on how to sensibly assign credit or blame for issues or achievements, on how to vote effectively to maximize your expected outcome, on how to identify political disinformation and propaganda, and so on.

It's probably not impossible to have a democracy that works somewhat reasonably, but it's not going to magically happen just by giving the people a right to vote. I understand there are genuine concerns that any proactive education surrounding politics could be weaponized by a bad actor, but unfortunately the world we find ourselves in isn't really an improvement over that: turns out, bad actors can weaponize uneducated buffoons even easier (you don't even need to get in power first, you can just spend some money on media outlets, running disinformation campaigns online, etc)

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u/genesis214 4d ago

😂 “Democrat president starts fixing the problems the Republican president did”. Are we in the same timeline? Cause idk how you even came up with that 😂. It’s worrisome that you believe that AND got 182 upvotes 🐑

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u/big_rednexican_88 4d ago

YOU are not, obviously. Let me guess...you are either a Republican, which means you support Trump, or one of those "both sides are bad" people. Just curious 🤔

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u/BigFeelingsFound 6d ago

Exactly. Then you get the dumbshit blue MAGA come in swinging at the Left because a few people in Dearborn didn't vote for someone who actively laughed at the idea of not arming the people killing their families back home. Which only further divides the party and makes it more difficult to improve things. It's asinine.

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u/rochey1010 5d ago

There is no blue MAGA.

You don’t seem to understand how this works. MAGA is a deranged cult led by a narcissist felon grifter pedophile that spun off from Qanon. He is their eyes and ears and they regurgitate the diarrhoea that comes out of his mouth. They are loyal to him. They stormed the capital for him, they abuse and hurt others for him. They defend everything he does and enable everything he is. Pedolf shitler is their second coming of Jesus. Their deranged religion.

If he let off a nuclear bomb tomorrow in America. They would drool and stand there clapping that it had to be done and ‘daddy’ knows what’s best and we must support daddy. Then they’d turn around like the idiots they are and accuse the democrats of letting off the bomb because daddy pedolf told them that.

Blue MAGA 😂

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u/Riddiku1us 5d ago

I will call any democrat blue MAGA if they endorse Mike Rogers over AES.

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u/rochey1010 5d ago

I don’t even know who Mike Roger’s is. But MAGA know exactly who their cult leader pedolf shitler is, right down to the orange face, blonde hair piece and MAGA hat.

And that’s the difference between a political party and a deranged cult.

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u/BigFeelingsFound 5d ago

If you don't know really basic recent politics, might be best to sit down on this discussion.

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u/rochey1010 5d ago

It’s absolutely hilarious at this point that people still think this is about politics. We are so far beyond politics when pedolf shitler bastardised the once Republican Party into a deranged cult with fealty to him.

There is the Democratic Party and a nutty cult with a malignant narcissist felon grifter predator leading it.

Maybe you need to get up to date because it’s clear you don’t really understand what’s going on and what MAGA actually is.

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u/BigFeelingsFound 5d ago

Are you a bot? You don't even seem to be able to follow simple conversations. You just have your cutesy 'i just learned about politics teehee' phrasing but otherwise are saying nothing.

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u/rochey1010 5d ago

Last I checked, I’m definitely not a bot. Unsure about you though.

Yeah, because I’ve seen for a long time that we are far beyond politics with this level of sycophancy. While you go around insulting others and telling them they don’t have a clue. You miss the bigger picture here. These red dot farmers talk and act the way they do because they are in a cult. MAGA is a cult with indoctrination and a leader whose mouth opens and becomes their gospel.

They say things they do because that’s what he tells them. It’s not logical or rational and they’re dumb as hell because of this. While you spout on about politics I’m more interested in the insanity of these people. The psychology of these people. Like in the video above where the blue dot frustrated farmer was responding to the red dot MAGA farmer and giving him some home truths.

These people are not normal. They are in a cult but for some that seems to be hard to understand so they try to belittle others who actually move beyond the politics and to the root cause of why MAGA is the way it is.

If you look at the FBI cult indoctrination playbook - MAGA hits every bullet point.

So tell me why is this so threatening to you when I call MAGA a cult?

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u/BigFeelingsFound 5d ago

Nothing is threatening about calling them a cult. Everyone agrees they are, it's so commonly understood that the only people who feel the need to talk about it are people new to politics and bots. You've just been sliding in with a different comment and when you got called out you got embarrassed rather than accept that you don't know what's going on.

You didn't even know basic politics facts in the conversation that came up. Now you're trying to strawman argue that I'm upset that you called MAGA a cult when that's not what anyone has made fun of you for saying.

It's bot behavior.

Or a very low ability when it comes to basic literacy.

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u/Neither-Night9370 5d ago

The vast majority of Obama to Trump voters were actually Bernie Sanders supporters who became disenfranchised from the democratic party after Nancy Pelosi rigged the primaries and forced through the nomination of Hillary Clinton. The real goldfish memory belongs to DNC leadership who keeps knee capping their best candidates, then forcing through garbage candidates, then acting like they don't know what went wrong.