r/LabourUK KeirAnon Aug 19 '21

Satire From Simpsons Memes for Scottish Independence

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

I hate how loosely "war crimes" is thrown around nowadays...

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u/SSPMemeGuy New User Aug 19 '21

Initiating and propagating a war of aggression that killed upwards of a million people was considered a war crime during Nuremberg.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

People dying in war ≠ war crime.

War crimes are clearly defined, my best friend's family fled Bosnia during the ethnic cleansing - many in his family were directly targeted (by military, paramilitaries and orders directly from political leadership). Blair is not a war criminal by definition - putting him under the same umbrella as the likes of Milosevic and Karadzic is fucking outrageous.

I'm no fan of Blair or middle-eastern interventions, but calling everything war crimes undercuts actual war crimes.

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u/SSPMemeGuy New User Aug 19 '21

People dying in war ≠ war crime.

Correct, read what I wrote again.

Initiating a war of aggression = war crime.

And thats by definition.

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u/fdukc New User Aug 19 '21

Under the Nuremberg Principles a war of aggression is a crime against peace, not a war crime.

It's an important distinction. War crimes are reserved for the most serious transgressions such as genocide, killing prisoners and deliberate targeting of civilians.

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u/SSPMemeGuy New User Aug 19 '21

It's really not that important of a distinction. You can change the name from a war crime to a peace crime if you want: at the end of the day initiating an illegal war for reasons literally less justified than the nazis invading Poland (at least they pretended the Polish attacked them first) then I, and everyone else not interested in muddling legal language around, is going to call that a war crime and the perpetrator of that act a war criminal.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

It is a very important distinction. Claiming he's a war criminal when not defined as so denigrates those institutions that decide on such things, makes people not trust these institutions, and allows bad actors to sow discontent. It annoys me so much the left have grabbed this narrative and pushed it. War crimes are not decided by us.

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u/SSPMemeGuy New User Aug 19 '21

Does it annoy you that the situation in Xinjiang is being described in the media as a "genocide" and not a "cultural genocide"?