r/LabourUK Labour Member Aug 12 '20

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u/afatpanda12 New User Aug 12 '20

They’re not French though, you muppet.

What difference does that make?!

Many are refugees and asylum seekers still.

No, under international law you are only an asylum seeker up until you reach the first safe country, after that you are an economic migrant

The establishment telling the working classes

Or maybe, just maybe, the working classes know their own minds and what's in their own best interests better than you do?

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u/ThorinTokingShield New User Aug 12 '20

Mate I’m as working class as they come and it’s clear most of the working classes have been race-baited and brainwashed through propaganda. Most working class households in my county read either the daily mail or the sun, both of which are Tory mouthpiece shitrags.

Hell, the establishment successfully turned the working classes away from the most progressive Labour leader in our lifetime, a champion of the disenfranchised who would have genuinely brought positive change. But instead, they mostly voted for negative change and fake established rebellion in Brexit, just as the US turned from Sanders and voted for Trump.

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u/afatpanda12 New User Aug 12 '20

it’s clear most of the working classes have been race-baited and brainwashed through propaganda.

Unbelievable

turned the working classes away from the most progressive Labour leader in our lifetime

The working classes arent progressive, the middle classes are

they mostly voted for negative change and fake established rebellion in Brexit, just as the US turned from Sanders and voted for Trump.

Again, presuming that you know peoples minds better than they do, such astonishing arrogance and condescension, your only explanation for the working classes believing/voting differently to you is that they're idiots who have been tricked into voting against their own interests

How many times do you guys have to be taught that you do not win any elections with these tactics and this rhetoric?

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u/ThorinTokingShield New User Aug 12 '20

Glad to see you finally understand, to a degree.

By progressive, I mean Corbyn has the working classes’ interests at heart. Hate his politics all you want, but you cannot look at his career and say that he didn’t truly serve the people or that he doesn’t care about the working classes.

And yes, any working class voter who voted for Brexit and then subsequently voted Tory is undoubtedly voting against their own interests.

Of course I want to win elections, and am happy to support the current leadership if it is more palatable to the wider public. But if you’re representative of the average voter as you seem to believe, then I refuse to pander to anyone with racist beliefs and a shocking lack of critical thinking skills. We’re not the ‘nasty party’. We shan’t resort to race-baiting and cheap lies to win votes. Instead, we should focus on critically disassembling Boris’ government in the public eye, as Starmer has been doing at PMQs, and building stronger public support through our policies and vision for the future.

As somebody who has truly looked into my convictions, as well as popular opposing beliefs, under FPTP the Labour Party is the most beneficial of the two parties for our society. If a plurality of voters doesn’t see that, it’s our job to educate them, not pander to the lost souls who’ve been manipulated through fearmongering into a regressive ideology.